You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Jeremy Corbyn
November 9 2026 2.36pm

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

Jeremy Corbyn


Page 164 of 279 < 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 >
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 16 8.28am

Originally posted by matt_himself

You could always mention Boris, Jimmy.

It seems that mentioning his indiscretions hundreds of times is not spiteful yet pointing out Abbott's indiscretions is spiteful.

Ha ha. Matthew are you talking to me through intermediaries because you said you weren't going to engage with me.
Like a couple on the rocks...

Little Jimi can you ask your father if he wants gravy....

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Oct 16 8.33am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I only turn up for the biscuits.

I don't think me and Nick share much politically but I think his heart is in the right place.

He knows that Tories are a mixture of people just like every other group....Nick's a 'fire-starter'.....Hol would be more boring without him.

Nick's a firestarter, twisted firestarter.
Nick's the bitch you hated, filth infatuated.

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Oct 16 8.42am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Nick's a firestarter, twisted firestarter.
Nick's the bitch you hated, filth infatuated.

He he. Prodigious.

 

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Oct 16 9.56am

Well I think I can clear this up. Everyone, almost, who ever lived, and will ever live, is a c**t. The top set of 'almost a c**t' featuring 99.999999% c**ts are politicians and leaders.

Even Ghandi, on occasions, was a c**t, and you can bet that there were plenty of people who regarded Jesus as a c**t, otherwise they'd never have nailed the fictional character to the hypothetical cross.

In fact the only people, known certainly not to be a c**t, are those who die before they master the art of being a c**t (language and controlled behaviour) i.e. still born babies, and those who lack the capacity of c**tyness (such as from Downs Syndrome) etc.

Guarantee 101 - By the time you hit 16, someone, somewhere has rightly adjudged you a c**t.

In truth, we all lie somewhere on the c**t spectrum, its just a question of what kind of c**t we are, and how much of a c**t we are in comparison to the National C**ting Average (100 points being the average kind of c**t).

Both Boris Johnson and Dianne Abbot are outliers in the c**t spectrum, by significant standard deviation above the anova determined compensatory factors.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

matt_himself Flag Matataland 10 Oct 16 1.49pm

Here is a poll conducted by a 'Neoliberal' right wing periodical, giving the Tories a 17% lead:

[Link]

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Oct 16 8.59am

This is where one, unelected, Corbyn acolytes lives:

[Link]

It's a world away from those they claim to support and further evidence of how detached they are from the reality ordinary people experience on a daily basis.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 11 Oct 16 9.50am

Originally posted by matt_himself

This is where one, unelected, Corbyn acolytes lives:

[Link]

It's a world away from those they claim to support and further evidence of how detached they are from the reality ordinary people experience on a daily basis.

By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years?

So not a Corbyn acolyte at all?

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 10.32am

Originally posted by OknotOK

By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years?

So not a Corbyn acolyte at all?

Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please

Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks

[Link]

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 11 Oct 16 11.31am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please

Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks

[Link]


That interview on Peston was genuinely painful to watch.

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 11 Oct 16 11.36am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please

Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks

[Link]

Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point.

Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with.

It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it).

The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same.

But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous.

I should also say she doesn't have to be that wealthy to afford that house (although she is very successful so I would think she is wealthy). Had she bought a house for a relatively low sum a number of years ago, you don't need much to be able to step up. I have friends who bought properties in Hackney, Finsbury Park, etc. for a pittance a number of years ago which suddenly allows them to buy houses worth comfortably over a million just because of rises in house prices.

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

matt_himself Flag Matataland 11 Oct 16 11.37am

Originally posted by OknotOK

By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years?

So not a Corbyn acolyte at all?

She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career:

[Link]

She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 11.44am

Originally posted by matt_himself

She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career:

[Link]

She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to.

At home among the comments on there Matthew?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Oct 16 12.33pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career:

[Link]

She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to.

Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career.
She is no better than an salesman with a really poor product that never arrives in the post.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 12.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career.
She is no better than an salesman with a really poor product that never arrives in the post.

An Salesman? Never heard of her.

Rather than taking potshots, why don't you engage in the grammar school debate.

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 12.52pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point.

Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with.

It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it).

The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same.

But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous.

I should also say she doesn't have to be that wealthy to afford that house (although she is very successful so I would think she is wealthy). Had she bought a house for a relatively low sum a number of years ago, you don't need much to be able to step up. I have friends who bought properties in Hackney, Finsbury Park, etc. for a pittance a number of years ago which suddenly allows them to buy houses worth comfortably over a million just because of rises in house prices.

I agree 100%, but when it's a Tory apparently they are just too rich to know what it is like for the ordinary man/woman

For me, Grammar schools are a bit like private medicine. Used correctly it frees resources for the rest of us and it is in affect a voluntary tax on the wealthy. The rub of course is ensuring that they are used correctly


 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 12.55pm

As an aside, whilst I rarely agreed with Shami Chakrabarti, I always had respect for her.

It does now feel like she has sold her soul for 13 pieces of silver

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Oct 16 1.43pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

An Salesman? Never heard of her.

Rather than taking potshots, why don't you engage in the grammar school debate.

Cheap even by your standards.

Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience.

Is everyone equal? No.
Will they ever be ? No.
Is it fair that above average kids should be forced to work with the average and below average? No.

Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes.

 

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 11 Oct 16 3.05pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I agree 100%, but when it's a Tory apparently they are just too rich to know what it is like for the ordinary man/woman

For me, Grammar schools are a bit like private medicine. Used correctly it frees resources for the rest of us and it is in affect a voluntary tax on the wealthy. The rub of course is ensuring that they are used correctly

Do you mean grammar schools or private schools? Grammar schools are state selective schools. They are definitely not a tax on the wealthy. Quite the opposite as poor students make up significantly less % of pupils at grammar schools than they do at standard state schools. It ends up being an effective tax break for the wealthy as it means they don't need to send their children to private schools.

There are some on the Right who obviously have less affinity with the poor than others. And there are some whose policy stances are worse for the poor than others.

Where policies are obviously damaging to the poor then it isn't surprising that if imposed by an apparently rich individual the claim that they don't understand the plight of the ordinary man sticks.

Edited by OknotOK (11 Oct 2016 3.07pm)

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 3.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Cheap even by your standards.

Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience.

Is everyone equal? No.
Will they ever be ? No.
Is it fair that above average kids should be forced to work with the average and below average? No.

Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes.

As I've said before my eldest goes to grammar but I'm against them.

Is it fair that above average intelligence kids from poorer socio-economic backgrounds miss out on grammar schools because their parents can't afford to tutor them?

Edited by nickgusset (11 Oct 2016 3.10pm)

 

We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 11 Oct 16 3.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Cheap even by your standards.

Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience.

Is everyone equal? No.
Will they ever be ? No.
Is it fair that above average kids should be forced to work with the average and below average? No.

Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes.


Agree with what you're saying, the only caveat is that there is selection within schools at the moment, with the brightest kids being put in top sets and therefore working alongside each other.

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Page 164 of 279 < 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 >

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Jeremy Corbyn