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Originally posted by matt_himself
You could always mention Boris, Jimmy. It seems that mentioning his indiscretions hundreds of times is not spiteful yet pointing out Abbott's indiscretions is spiteful. Ha ha. Matthew are you talking to me through intermediaries because you said you weren't going to engage with me. Little Jimi can you ask your father if he wants gravy....
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I only turn up for the biscuits. I don't think me and Nick share much politically but I think his heart is in the right place. He knows that Tories are a mixture of people just like every other group....Nick's a 'fire-starter'.....Hol would be more boring without him. Nick's a firestarter, twisted firestarter.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Nick's a firestarter, twisted firestarter. He he. Prodigious.
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Well I think I can clear this up. Everyone, almost, who ever lived, and will ever live, is a c**t. The top set of 'almost a c**t' featuring 99.999999% c**ts are politicians and leaders. Even Ghandi, on occasions, was a c**t, and you can bet that there were plenty of people who regarded Jesus as a c**t, otherwise they'd never have nailed the fictional character to the hypothetical cross. In fact the only people, known certainly not to be a c**t, are those who die before they master the art of being a c**t (language and controlled behaviour) i.e. still born babies, and those who lack the capacity of c**tyness (such as from Downs Syndrome) etc. Guarantee 101 - By the time you hit 16, someone, somewhere has rightly adjudged you a c**t. In truth, we all lie somewhere on the c**t spectrum, its just a question of what kind of c**t we are, and how much of a c**t we are in comparison to the National C**ting Average (100 points being the average kind of c**t). Both Boris Johnson and Dianne Abbot are outliers in the c**t spectrum, by significant standard deviation above the anova determined compensatory factors.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
This is where one, unelected, Corbyn acolytes lives: It's a world away from those they claim to support and further evidence of how detached they are from the reality ordinary people experience on a daily basis. By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all?
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Originally posted by OknotOK
By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all? Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point. Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with. It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it). The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same. But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous. I should also say she doesn't have to be that wealthy to afford that house (although she is very successful so I would think she is wealthy). Had she bought a house for a relatively low sum a number of years ago, you don't need much to be able to step up. I have friends who bought properties in Hackney, Finsbury Park, etc. for a pittance a number of years ago which suddenly allows them to buy houses worth comfortably over a million just because of rises in house prices.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all? She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to.
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Originally posted by matt_himself
She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to. At home among the comments on there Matthew?
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Originally posted by matt_himself
She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to. Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career. An Salesman? Never heard of her. Rather than taking potshots, why don't you engage in the grammar school debate.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point. Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with. It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it). The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same. But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous. I agree 100%, but when it's a Tory apparently they are just too rich to know what it is like for the ordinary man/woman For me, Grammar schools are a bit like private medicine. Used correctly it frees resources for the rest of us and it is in affect a voluntary tax on the wealthy. The rub of course is ensuring that they are used correctly
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Originally posted by nickgusset
An Salesman? Never heard of her. Rather than taking potshots, why don't you engage in the grammar school debate. Cheap even by your standards. Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience. Is everyone equal? No. Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I agree 100%, but when it's a Tory apparently they are just too rich to know what it is like for the ordinary man/woman For me, Grammar schools are a bit like private medicine. Used correctly it frees resources for the rest of us and it is in affect a voluntary tax on the wealthy. The rub of course is ensuring that they are used correctly Do you mean grammar schools or private schools? Grammar schools are state selective schools. They are definitely not a tax on the wealthy. Quite the opposite as poor students make up significantly less % of pupils at grammar schools than they do at standard state schools. It ends up being an effective tax break for the wealthy as it means they don't need to send their children to private schools. There are some on the Right who obviously have less affinity with the poor than others. And there are some whose policy stances are worse for the poor than others. Where policies are obviously damaging to the poor then it isn't surprising that if imposed by an apparently rich individual the claim that they don't understand the plight of the ordinary man sticks. Edited by OknotOK (11 Oct 2016 3.07pm)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Cheap even by your standards. Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience. Is everyone equal? No. Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes. As I've said before my eldest goes to grammar but I'm against them. Is it fair that above average intelligence kids from poorer socio-economic backgrounds miss out on grammar schools because their parents can't afford to tutor them? Edited by nickgusset (11 Oct 2016 3.10pm)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Cheap even by your standards. Both my kids went to grammar schools and I'm very happy about that. I went to a s***hole of a comprehensive and I vowed not to let them share that experience. Is everyone equal? No. Are politicians who send their kids to paid schools and then condemn the system hypocrites? Oh yes.
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