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Originally posted by DanH

Sad times when this board is populated by a bunch of TR and PJW fanboys.

Not at all danh.
You and wissy put up a good defence.
Although wissy uses a little explanation to his posts.
Yours are .. shall we say... brief.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

So your idea of finding out the truth is reading the mainstream media!

I'll let you in on a little secret... the media often makes up stories to fit their narrative. Why don't you do some actual research instead of being a sheep? And you think you are intelligent??

Your last paragraph is totally irrelevant and more bluster.

I will let you into something that's not secret. It's just ignored by those on the right with their own narrative.

The MSM are by far not the worst culprits in stretching stories. They have editors in overall control, libel laws to be wary of and lawyers fact checking. They spin, but that's different. So if they describe a bunch of people as right wing, and those people don't deny it, or sue them, then I tend to think they might be right wing. Ducks and quacks come to my mind. The worst culprits for "fake news" are found in the uncontrolled social media where people pose as "journalists". An area of our lives now being exploited by malign forces determined to sow division. It's unfortunate that those with a victim syndrome fail to see this happening.

My last paragraph is very far from bluster. It's the truth.

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

What would constitute intemperant language; if not wanting more immigration from some that bring nothing to the table.
Saying immigrants have to have a minimum education and should assimilate would be seen as intolerant and an incitement.
How does that fit your second paragraph.

As the video cannot now be viewed I cannot even offer an opinion but there must have been more than that for the ban to be made. What you suggest seems perfectly acceptable.

If you have a transcript please post it and we can try to analyse.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Sad times when this board is populated by a bunch of TR and PJW fanboys.

Yeah it's sad times when people don't conform to your ideology isn't it. Heaven forbid people have different opinions! So who should we be fans of instead?

Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Jul 2019 5.19pm)

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I will let you into something that's not secret. It's just ignored by those on the right with their own narrative.

The MSM are by far not the worst culprits in stretching stories. They have editors in overall control, libel laws to be wary of and lawyers fact checking. They spin, but that's different. So if they describe a bunch of people as right wing, and those people don't deny it, or sue them, then I tend to think they might be right wing. Ducks and quacks come to my mind. The worst culprits for "fake news" are found in the uncontrolled social media where people pose as "journalists". An area of our lives now being exploited by malign forces determined to sow division. It's unfortunate that those with a victim syndrome fail to see this happening.

My last paragraph is very far from bluster. It's the truth.

Answer me these 2 questions...

How is PJW 'far right' as you described?

Why do you think the Daily Star removed the TR story I linked to?

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Yeah it's sad times when people don't conform to your ideology isn't it. Heaven forbid people have different opinions! So who should we be fans of instead?

Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Jul 2019 5.19pm)

Preferably people who don’t peddle lies and hatred to a gullible base of fans to try and make some money.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Preferably people who don’t peddle lies and hatred to a gullible base of fans to try and make some money.

'Gullible'

Besides, what's Corbyn got to do with this?

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I will let you into something that's not secret. It's just ignored by those on the right with their own narrative.

The MSM are by far not the worst culprits in stretching stories. They have editors in overall control, libel laws to be wary of and lawyers fact checking. They spin, but that's different. So if they describe a bunch of people as right wing, and those people don't deny it, or sue them, then I tend to think they might be right wing. Ducks and quacks come to my mind. The worst culprits for "fake news" are found in the uncontrolled social media where people pose as "journalists". An area of our lives now being exploited by malign forces determined to sow division. It's unfortunate that those with a victim syndrome fail to see this happening.

My last paragraph is very far from bluster. It's the truth.

Mainly agree - also true of the extreme left. Or any extreme faction for that matter

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Preferably people who don’t peddle lies and hatred to a gullible base of fans to try and make some money.

Such a great wishy-washy, catch-all piece of virtue signalling with no specific examples, counter argument or even people who we should be fan boys of.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I will let you into something that's not secret. It's just ignored by those on the right with their own narrative.

The MSM are by far not the worst culprits in stretching stories. They have editors in overall control, libel laws to be wary of and lawyers fact checking. They spin, but that's different. So if they describe a bunch of people as right wing, and those people don't deny it, or sue them, then I tend to think they might be right wing. Ducks and quacks come to my mind. The worst culprits for "fake news" are found in the uncontrolled social media where people pose as "journalists". An area of our lives now being exploited by malign forces determined to sow division. It's unfortunate that those with a victim syndrome fail to see this happening.

My last paragraph is very far from bluster. It's the truth.

No.

That is fine to suggest where unsubstantiated claims are made but not so with hard facts and undeniable realities.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Answer me these 2 questions...

How is PJW 'far right' as you described?

Why do you think the Daily Star removed the TR story I linked to?

This was the quote I found:-

"Facebook is removing a host of prominent far-right and/or anti-Semitic political figures like Louis Farrakhan, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos, Paul Joseph Watson, and Laura Loomer from both Facebook and Instagram, the company announced Thursday."

That was from BuzzFeed whose article went on to say this "We've always banned individuals or organizations that promote or engage in violence and hate, regardless of ideology," a Facebook spokesperson told BuzzFeed News. "The process for evaluating potential violators is extensive and it is what led us to our decision to remove these accounts today."

So sure BuzzFeed is well known for not being very sympathetic to right wing opinion but has kept tabs on these individuals much more than I have so if they call them far right I tend to believe them. However, that's really unimportant. What matters is that FB say they have broken their rules and, whatever their ideology might be, that gets them banned.

I have no more detail than you as to why the newspaper removed it's story. I can only assume that they discovered it was not factual in some way. I don't though regard the Daily Star as a serious newspaper but much more a gossip and scandal rag, to which I pay no attention whatsoever.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No.

That is fine to suggest where unsubstantiated claims are made but not so with hard facts and undeniable realities.

That is, of course, true but the problem is, I suspect, that most, if not all, of that which you and others regard as "hard facts and undeniable realities" are no such thing but are actually just opinions which match your prejudices.

Twain's famous quote comes to mind:-

“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”

 


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