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Originally posted by nickgusset
Back to topic, I was very pleased to hear Trump saying he wasn't going to try and force 'western democracy' on other nations. I think that Trump may come up with some pleasant surprises during his tenure. He does have some 'left wing' ideas amongst the nonsense. Time will tell. It's worth listening to some of his rally speeches towards the end of the campaign, Nick. They didn't get any coverage in our media (or America's, for that matter). Edited by Rubin (11 Nov 2016 7.38pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Back to topic, I was very pleased to hear Trump saying he wasn't going to try and force 'western democracy' on other nations. I think that Trump may come up with some pleasant surprises during his tenure. He does have some 'left wing' ideas amongst the nonsense. Time will tell. No one is excusing anything except for trying to worm out of the referendum result. The only pleasant surprises Trump will come up with is if he actually does anything he claimed he would do during his campaign. A restriction on migration and a bit of job creation would be a start.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How lame is that? As if the Remain camp were honest and accurate in their campaign. To be fair, that was misleading rather than a lie. Very misleading and very underhanded and written without caveats on a bus, so what I am saying by no means excuses anybody. But the original claim was "leaving the EU was forecast to free up £350m a week for the UK economy which could be put towards the NHS". That's semantics, I realise. However, who here thought that the campaigners for the Leave campaign such as Farage or Johnson would, post Brexit vote, take charge of this country and negotiate the terms of departure? But as I say, I do totally accept the moans of Remainers on this one because no one can say the public weren't mislead. It is a case of semantics though as I don't think they were lied to as such. Edited by Part Time James (11 Nov 2016 7.45pm)
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Is that a fact set in stone like the £350m a week for the NHS? It's a quote, from the person who, at present, is ultimately in charge of whether they get one or not. Not that anyone claimed what you said was a fact, never mind setting it in stone.
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
"You do know that jimmy krankie isn't even an MP?" So what? One thing her and the Scottish Tory leader might agree on is their current roles are more significant than being an MP If they aren't an MP they can't even vote on the matter, should the government offer one. Which they've said they won't.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The 'remainers' including me were equally uninspired by the dreadful 'remain' campaign. It was a shock to find that the PM and his fellow threateners knew nothing about the EU that's why they are always bashing Europe. It would have been especially helpful if Ms.Merkel and Mr.Hollande had a platform as at least we would have some understanding of the EU position, after all we have been joined for 43 years. Forget about 51 - 49 stick it in the bin we have a housing crisis. And construction has fallen in the last few months since the referendum. We do really need to start building houses, seriously.
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Originally posted by Rubin
It's worth listening to some of his rally speeches towards the end of the campaign, Nick. They didn't get any coverage in our media (or America's, for that matter). Edited by Rubin (11 Nov 2016 7.38pm) Scratch beneath of the campaign veneer of muslimsv/misogyny/Mexico wand there's a lot of comparisons with Bernie Sanders.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Scratch beneath of the campaign veneer of muslimsv/misogyny/Mexico wand there's a lot of comparisons with Bernie Sanders. It's a shame that Sanders ended up endorsing Clinton, considering she got a lot of her funding from Wall Street, who he claimed he was going stand up to. The democratic 'anti-establishment' candidate ended up backing the democratic candidate who epitomised the establishment. This short video is worth watching for a bit of background on him: There's also the stealing of the candidacy by the DNC, yet he still carried on backing her. [Link]
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Originally posted by Rubin
It's a shame that Sanders ended up endorsing Clinton, considering she got a lot of her funding from Wall Street, who he claimed he was going stand up to. The democratic 'anti-establishment' candidate ended up backing the democratic candidate who epitomised the establishment. This short video is worth watching for a bit of background on him: There's also the stealing of the candidacy by the DNC, yet he still carried on backing her. [Link] Trump is certainly not a Republicans republican. Use state money for investment in housing infrastructure and job creation? Funny, when Corbyn suggests this it's bonkers!
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Trump is certainly not a Republicans republican. Use state money for investment in housing infrastructure and job creation? Funny, when Corbyn suggests this it's bonkers! I'm for Corbyn, in the sense that I think he's true to his beliefs. The one thing that disappointed me about him, is him backing down over his anti-EU stance, which he'd held his whole political career up until he became the Labour leader. On a side note, I also don't trust May at all, purely due to her appointing Woolf and Sloss to run the child sex abuse enquiry, seeing as they both had links to those who were going to be investigated. It means to me that she is either incompetent or complicit in an attempted cover-up, the latter being the most likely.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Trump is certainly not a Republicans republican. Use state money for investment in housing infrastructure and job creation? Funny, when Corbyn suggests this it's bonkers! may be missing it but he IS the republicans at this point. they aren't what they were 30 or 40 years ago. been building a long time and now we have this.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Biggest winner in the US election must be the gun lobby. What restrictions there were will be swiftly dismantled. Does that make you think twice about going to the USA? How reassuring I can't wait not to go there.
Nope, and it never has.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Biggest winner in the US election must be the gun lobby. What restrictions there were will be swiftly dismantled. Does that make you think twice about going to the USA? Fear not as tourists are going to be allowed to carry a small gun discreetly hidden. How reassuring I can't wait not to go there.
you have it wrong. gun lobby and gun makers were rooting for hillary big time. they made a ton of money and headway with blacula in office and would've been more of the same with hillary. no boogeyman to rail against now. but don't worry about coming here - it's not that you're allowed to carry a gun upon arrival. it's an expectation. hand out AK's at customs.
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Thanks - so whats it like there you cool with the result or what?
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