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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 23 Feb 20 2.52pm

Originally posted by esox lucius

If Luka is fit for the next game should he come straight back in the side for Brighton. This would also depend on how bad the injury is that Kouyate picked up. If he is okay I would play the same starting 11 as yesterday with maybe Tosun in for Benteke.

I agree bout same starting 11, i disagree bout bringing Luka straight back in if Kouyate' injury keeps him out. We still have Meyer(i know) Jairo, Townsend, shlupp(?), Luka is 1(one) booking away from a min 2 match ban, do we need to take a chance?

PvA's set pieces & corners were far superior to Luka's, as was Jmac2's something we've been sadly lacking in for ages. Our need to win against the 'seaweed' is paramount in any/every Palace's fans mindset. Luka should not be involed . . IMHO

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 23 Feb 20 3.03pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

I agree bout same starting 11, i disagree bout bringing Luka straight back in if Kouyate' injury keeps him out. We still have Meyer(i know) Jairo, Townsend, shlupp(?), Luka is 1(one) booking away from a min 2 match ban, do we need to take a chance?

PvA's set pieces & corners were far superior to Luka's, as was Jmac2's something we've been sadly lacking in for ages. Our need to win against the 'seaweed' is paramount in any/every Palace's fans mindset. Luka should not be involed . . IMHO

Totally agree but you know what Roy's like. He likes to pick the same old faces every game irrespective of who the opposition is and who's in form so I'd be surprised if Luka didn't get his place back as soon as he is fit.

 

HeathMan Flag Purley 23 Feb 20 11.14pm

Would prefer Luka on the bench giving Roy extra options. If played from the start he is likely to be a target - one more booking misses two matches; if they can wind him up we could be down to ten men. Chances are that he will miss two matches before the end of the season anyway - hope Roy is looking at the fixtures list. COYP

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 20 11.46pm

A splendid performance yesterday.
Milivojevic was not missed due to the prowess of the midfielders and full credit to them.

 

mars Flag Folkestone 24 Feb 20 9.25am

Hurts me to say it but we are better without Luka. I would leave him out after his suspension.

 


mars

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Feb 20 10.10am

Originally posted by mars

Hurts me to say it but we are better without Luka. I would leave him out after his suspension.

Sadly, I have to agree. As has already been said, had he played we wouldn't have seen PvA's free kick goal. If Luka comes back in as captain he'll want to take over that role and will produce his usual (this season) dead-ball dross.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Feb 20 10.14am

Originally posted by doombear

Sadly, I have to agree. As has already been said, had he played we wouldn't have seen PvA's free kick goal. If Luka comes back in as captain he'll want to take over that role and will produce his usual (this season) dead-ball dross.

Not so sure about that as the free kick from that position favoured a left-footer.

 

Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 24 Feb 20 10.17am

Unfortunately, Roy has his favourites and I suspect Luka will go straight back into the team.

Jairo was doing a decent job at LB, but as soon as PVA was fit again, he was out.

There should be competition for places, not automatic selection. Which would mean Benteke is out.

 

Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 24 Feb 20 10.23am

I thought McCarthy was excellent on Saturday (apart from a couple of wayward "through balls" ) . He really does get stuck in and is more mobile than Luka. MacArthur is one of the most consistent players in the team. So that means Kouyate will get chopped (I thought he did OK Saturday with the one surging run sticking in the memory). Given he went off injured the decision to recall Luka maybe through necessity.

Edited by Bexley Eagle (24 Feb 2020 12.10pm)

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Feb 20 10.29am

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

Unfortunately, Roy has his favourites and I suspect Luka will go straight back into the team.

Jairo was doing a decent job at LB, but as soon as PVA was fit again, he was out.

There should be competition for places, not automatic selection. Which would mean Benteke is out.

I accept that Riedewald did a decent job at left-back and surpassed expectations but PVA is a natural left-back with greater experience in this position, has scored goals from open-play and as we witnessed on Saturday has the ability to score from free-kicks.I understand Hodgson's rationale for bring PVA back into the side at the expense of Riedewald.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Feb 20 10.56am

Originally posted by doombear

Sadly, I have to agree. As has already been said, had he played we wouldn't have seen PvA's free kick goal. If Luka comes back in as captain he'll want to take over that role and will produce his usual (this season) dead-ball dross.

If Luka played we probably wouldn’t have had the free kick because one player difference would mean the ball would go to different player or position at least once. It’s also the same when people say ‘we could’ve scored 4 or be 4 nil up’ when the ball would have been placed for a kick off after one goal meaning those next chances couldn’t have happened and and the dynamics on the pitch change after a goal.

Sorry to be a pedantic pr1ck. I agree with what you mean and Luka has been a really frustrating disappointment. And we were arguing that whether we should or shouldn’t sell him for £20mil not long ago. Last summer wasn’t it? We’d snap anyone’s arm off for that deal now.

 


COYP

esox lucius Flag Deal 24 Feb 20 11.26am

Luka would not be missed. PVA takes a good penalty should we get one, also better corners and as we saw on Saturday a decent delivery on free kicks. He is also playing well at the moment gets forward with pace down the channel and links up well with Wilf.

Originally posted by doombear

Sadly, I have to agree. As has already been said, had he played we wouldn't have seen PvA's free kick goal. If Luka comes back in as captain he'll want to take over that role and will produce his usual (this season) dead-ball dross.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 24 Feb 20 11.29am

Originally posted by doombear

Sadly, I have to agree. As has already been said, had he played we wouldn't have seen PvA's free kick goal. If Luka comes back in as captain he'll want to take over that role and will produce his usual (this season) dead-ball dross.

Our corners were much better on Saturday.

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 20 11.39am

I've always been a big fan of Luka but am struggling these days to remember why that is, or was.

His set pieces have only yielded one goal this season as far as I can remember, our penalties have dried up so no use there, he gets booked almost every game, lacks mobility, not really picking passes any more, liable to dither/give the ball away in vulnerable positions.. the list goes on really.

As mentioned, was a big fan and don't think he is the worst player in the world but he has been poor most of this season and some of last.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Feb 20 12.05pm

Originally posted by chris123

Our corners were much better on Saturday.

Indeed, but for Dubravka, we would have scored from one! (By the way, he's a fine keeper and is streets ahead on shots saved this season but perhaps not surprising given how many shots Newcastle allowed us to take).

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 24 Feb 20 12.24pm

The Problem with all our central midfielders is there is no goal treat with any of them. Luka, Kouyate, McArthur, McCarthy and Meyer, 91 appearances this season and 2 outfield goals, very poor considering we always play 3 central.

 


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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Feb 20 12.37pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If Luka played we probably wouldn’t have had the free kick because one player difference would mean the ball would go to different player or position at least once. It’s also the same when people say ‘we could’ve scored 4 or be 4 nil up’ when the ball would have been placed for a kick off after one goal meaning those next chances couldn’t have happened and and the dynamics on the pitch change after a goal.

Sorry to be a pedantic pr1ck. I agree with what you mean and Luka has been a really frustrating disappointment. And we were arguing that whether we should or shouldn’t sell him for £20mil not long ago. Last summer wasn’t it? We’d snap anyone’s arm off for that deal now.

I, too, can be a pedantic prick. For example, I simply said that had Luka played we wouldn't have seen PvA's goal. I didn't explain WHY we wouldn't see it. Later in this thread I said that but for Dubravka we would have scored a goal from a corner. I didn't say two goals, because had Cahill's header gone in the whole game would have changed - we might even have lost (although I doubt it given how poor Newcastle were). If onlys in life ae pointless because the whole of life would probably take a different path if the "if only" had occurred.
Pedantic prick will now switch off.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 24 Feb 20 12.39pm

I'm going to stick up for Luka a bit here. The last time he was out I thought we missed his bite. In this game however Newcastle had only two central midfielders as their set up allowed them to have two marking Zaha constantly. They were therefore outnumbered in centre midfield and it showed. We totally bossed that area throughout the match. I believe we would have done exactly the same if Luka had been playing albeit he might have insisted on taking the set pieces. But that sort of thing is easy to change if someone else is getting better results so it should not be a given that he takes them if he plays.

Luka is a stopper and a damn good one at that. He is sort of a mixture of Cabaye and Jedinak although and rather unfortunately for us, does not possess their greatest strengths in abundance. Is he better than Kouyate, McArthur or McArthy, it is very difficult to say. If he doesn't start at Brighton and they begin to dominate the midfield I am sure there will be some who demand his immediate introduction.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Feb 20 12.52pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I'm going to stick up for Luka a bit here. The last time he was out I thought we missed his bite. In this game however Newcastle had only two central midfielders as their set up allowed them to have two marking Zaha constantly. They were therefore outnumbered in centre midfield and it showed. We totally bossed that area throughout the match. I believe we would have done exactly the same if Luka had been playing albeit he might have insisted on taking the set pieces. But that sort of thing is easy to change if someone else is getting better results so it should not be a given that he takes them if he plays.

Luka is a stopper and a damn good one at that. He is sort of a mixture of Cabaye and Jedinak although and rather unfortunately for us, does not possess their greatest strengths in abundance. Is he better than Kouyate, McArthur or McArthy, it is very difficult to say. If he doesn't start at Brighton and they begin to dominate the midfield I am sure there will be some who demand his immediate introduction.

I don't disagree regarding bossing the midfield but I'm not sure dead-ball duties will be easily changed where the club's captain is involved. I'd like to think so and in some ways I'd like to see it put to the test. similarly, how likely is it that Roy will drop the club captain once he's well again?

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Feb 20 3.18pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I'm going to stick up for Luka a bit here. The last time he was out I thought we missed his bite. In this game however Newcastle had only two central midfielders as their set up allowed them to have two marking Zaha constantly. They were therefore outnumbered in centre midfield and it showed. We totally bossed that area throughout the match. I believe we would have done exactly the same if Luka had been playing albeit he might have insisted on taking the set pieces. But that sort of thing is easy to change if someone else is getting better results so it should not be a given that he takes them if he plays.

Luka is a stopper and a damn good one at that. He is sort of a mixture of Cabaye and Jedinak although and rather unfortunately for us, does not possess their greatest strengths in abundance. Is he better than Kouyate, McArthur or McArthy, it is very difficult to say. If he doesn't start at Brighton and they begin to dominate the midfield I am sure there will be some who demand his immediate introduction.

He breaks up play and commits a lot of fouls which can be beneficial to our team especially away from home.Since the start of the 2017-18 season he has picked up 30 yellows and a red.

 

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