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.TUX. Flag 02 Oct 17 7.26pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Economic life cycles last on average 7-10 years. Nobody can eliminate boom and bust, no matter how much their voice booms in parliament in more prosperous times.

Unfortunately this will always be so.

Someone should tell Yellen.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 02 Oct 17 7.28pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I haven't seen much today due to work. The news is full of that white Christian terrorist attack in Vegas and not much about the conference.

The thing I have heard are the Tories are very worried that they have been usurped by global poltics.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 17 7.32pm

Originally posted by pefwin

The thing I have heard are the Tories are very worried that they have been usurped by global poltics.

Didn't May admit as much at a fringe meeting.

All this stuff about the free market ... Is this their tack for the next election, in direct contrast to the quite frankly facile allusions they will use about a commie Labour government.

Edited by nickgusset (02 Oct 2017 7.44pm)

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 02 Oct 17 7.33pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Is McDonnell even a practising Catholic now do you know? Or are you just castigating him for a path he started to follow, but chose to get off from before he was ordained? Do his religious beliefs, if he has any, dictate some of his voting patterns like Jacob's do?

You had better ask his Confessor.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Oct 17 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Your truth, not the truth. Big difference.

The sad thing is that for a clever fella, you're just as naive as the young you berate.

The old condescension, revealing insecurity.

Am I naive? No doubt you think I am naive for voting for BREXIT as well or for wishing to control immigration.

My 'naivety' has served me well so far.


 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 17 7.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The old condescension, revealing insecurity.

Am I naive? No doubt you think I am naive for voting for BREXIT as well or for wishing to control immigration.

My 'naivety' has served me well so far.



Tory conference?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Oct 17 7.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not really. Rees Mogg profits from abortion pills despite being completely against abortion. He makes a big thing about his religion. Does McDonnell?

No, he just praises the IRA.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 17 7.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No, he just praises the IRA.

not going over that old nonsense again.

Tory Conference? Thoughts?

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 02 Oct 17 7.57pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Sigh, the note thing again.


One of the most oft repeated "economic" arguments posited by Tory party supporters is the "didn't Labour leave a note admitting there was no money left?" question, which is often used in conjunction with the absurdly counter-factual "Labour bankrupted Britain" narrative.

The first thing to note about this question is that the note that was left by Liam Byrne saying that "there's no money" was intended as a joke, not as a serious statement of fact. The joke being a reiteration of the 1965 note left by the Tory Chancellor Reginald Maudling for his successor Jim Callaghan that said "good luck old cock, sorry to leave it in a mess".

If the crux of your economic argument is a joke note written over years ago by a fool like Liam Byrne, then it's absolutely clear that you don't have the faintest regard for genuine economic analysis, and prefer to rote learn absurd economic fairy stories from the employees of right wing press barons like Rupert Murdoch (S*n, Times, Sky TV), Jonathan Harmsworth (Daily Mail, Metro), the Barclay brothers (Telegraph, Spectator) and RIchard Desmond (Express, Star).

It's hard to believe that anyone could be credulous enough to believe that the proposition that "there's no money" was a serious and accurate one rather than a joke, but apparently lots of Tory supporters do, and even use it as the keystone of their argument in favour of reelecting the Conservatives!

It's hard to not feel like I'm being patronising in explaining what is to come in the next paragraph, but there are apparently a heck of a lot of Tories out there who honestly don't seem to understand this stuff.

The idea that there ever was "no money left" is a childlike fantasy. The United Kingdom has a central bank called the Bank of England that can just create new money out of nothing via a process known as Quantitative Easing. Since the global financial sector meltdown of 2007-08 the Bank of England has created hundreds of billions in this way. When a country has a sovereign central bank that can create new money, the idea that there is "no money left" is economic baby talk.

One of the things that this anti left reliance upon the "no money left" arguments illustrates is the incredible selectivity of the Tory mind. It seems that the Tory has perfect recall of events in 2010 when it comes to stupid joke notes left in the treasury by an embodiment of uselessness like Liam Byrne, but when it comes to all of the promises and predictions made by Tory politicians back in 2010, they've managed to completely forget them all.


What like the "apache helicopter " joke.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Oct 17 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Tory conference?

Yes, it's refreshing to see how a proper party conducts itself after seeing the unruly rabble of idiots that is Labour.

That for giving me the opportunity to express that.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Oct 17 8.00pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

not going over that old nonsense again.

Tory Conference? Thoughts?

It's relevant. People need to know the kind of people who want their vote.

People who praise the IRA, are members of CND or hire communists for their election campaign should be avoided.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Oct 17 8.03pm

Originally posted by elgrande

What like the "apache helicopter " joke.

Tory Conference

 

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