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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jul 23 11.05am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Good let's have a referendum on the BBC if your side wins I will shut up. It's very difficult to win any argument against a deluded bigot. To defend the bbc is the very last word in madness.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 23 11.13am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
It's very difficult to win any argument against a deluded bigot. To defend the bbc is the very last word in madness. I can understand the defence of the BBC. What I fail to see is how anyone can defend their handling of the paedophiles and perverts that seem to be rife in their organisation. That's defending the indefensible. I may as well try to rehabilitate Ian Brady. Just misunderstood.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 23 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Complaints were made to the BBC in the early 70's. They knew. Sorry but I just don’t think that’s true. Not in a way that would have justified, at the time, an investigation. Someone complained in the mid 80s about an alleged incident in the early 70s but wouldn’t cooperate with the police. What would you seriously have expected any employer to do about that? Ignore the headline of the article below and read what actually transpired:-
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 23 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
What exactly is that supposed to mean? Simply that actually being on the ship was a far more traumatic experience to that anyone like me felt, sitting as I was in an hotel thousands of miles away. My own father’s ship was sunk in WW2 and he had to swim for his life. Something that affected him for the rest of his life. So my respects to you along with my hope it has not left too big a stain.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 23 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Sorry but I just don’t think that’s true. Not in a way that would have justified, at the time, an investigation. Someone complained in the mid 80s about an alleged incident in the early 70s but wouldn’t cooperate with the police. What would you seriously have expected any employer to do about that? Ignore the headline of the article below and read what actually transpired:- Good, that puts that to bed. Rest assured.
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Teddy Eagle  16 Jul 23 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Sorry but I just don’t think that’s true. Not in a way that would have justified, at the time, an investigation. Someone complained in the mid 80s about an alleged incident in the early 70s but wouldn’t cooperate with the police. What would you seriously have expected any employer to do about that? Ignore the headline of the article below and read what actually transpired:- Mid 80s? Nope. Douglas Muggeridge, late controller of Radio 1 and 2 in 1973, launched two investigations into Savile in 1973 but the inquiries were more concerned with "risk of damage to the BBC's reputation" than the welfare of the girls who might be involved with Savile
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 23 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Your disingenuousness should win awards. They’re not even a whiff of disingenuousness present in my comment. There are though bucket loads of barely disguised prejudice present in many of the others.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 23 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Mid 80s? Nope. Douglas Muggeridge, late controller of Radio 1 and 2 in 1973, launched two investigations into Savile in 1973 but the inquiries were more concerned with "risk of damage to the BBC's reputation" than the welfare of the girls who might be involved with Savile Did you read the report I linked? Where does your claim comes from, because it conflicts completely with what the article says happened.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Jul 23 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Did you read the report I linked? Where does your claim comes from, because it conflicts completely with what the article says happened. As I said it's from the BBC website. You know, that unimpeachable source.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jul 23 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I can understand the defence of the BBC. What I fail to see is how anyone can defend their handling of the paedophiles and perverts that seem to be rife in their organisation. That's defending the indefensible. I may as well try to rehabilitate Ian Brady. Just misunderstood. No-one is, or needs to, defend the BBC in the way you suggest because they don’t and never have covered up the activities of paedophiles. It’s a myth that is strongly held and endlessly circulated by the right and their media to the point it becomes, in their minds, the truth.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jul 23 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
As I said it's from the BBC website. You know, that unimpeachable source.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 23 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is, or needs to, defend the BBC in the way you suggest because they don’t and never have covered up the activities of paedophiles. It’s a myth that is strongly held and endlessly circulated by the right and their media to the point it becomes, in their minds, the truth. Just a series of unfortunate events, linked merely by circumstance.
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 georgenorman 16 Jul 23 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is, or needs to, defend the BBC in the way you suggest because they don’t and never have covered up the activities of paedophiles. It’s a myth that is strongly held and endlessly circulated by the right and their media to the point it becomes, in their minds, the truth. When the likes of the police, cricket clubs and others are routinely accused of institutional racism etc, those myths are endlessly circulated by the left and their media (including the BBC) to the point it becomes, in their minds, the truth. Yet the glaring problem of sexual deviancy by a number of high profile BBC celebrities is dismissed by the left as a myth.
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| Helmet46 Croydon 16 Jul 23 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
As I said it's from the BBC website. You know, that unimpeachable source.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 8.01am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Just a series of unfortunate events, linked merely by circumstance. No activity of this kind should be described as unfortunate. There are though linked circumstances. They all involved high profile people in the media taking advantage of their positions. That also means that when their behaviour is discovered it gets much more attention than if they were working quietly in a backwater. Those things are true but what isn’t is this idea that the BBC itself was complicit because it wilfully either ignored or covered it up. That, given the benefit of hindsight, they should have been more aware is the reason why new protocols and procedures have been established that match the expectations of today.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 8.13am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
When the likes of the police, cricket clubs and others are routinely accused of institutional racism etc, those myths are endlessly circulated by the left and their media (including the BBC) to the point it becomes, in their minds, the truth. Yet the glaring problem of sexual deviancy by a number of high profile BBC celebrities is dismissed by the left as a myth. Do you think that institutional racism doesn’t exist and is just a myth? No-one is suggesting predatory paedophiles in the media, or other positions of power, don’t exist. What is mythical is the idea that the BBC condoned it in some way. They were as duped by these people as the rest of us and have subsequently taken steps to try to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Jul 23 8.15am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you think that institutional racism doesn’t exist and is just a myth? No-one is suggesting predatory paedophiles in the media, or other positions of power, don’t exist. What is mythical is the idea that the BBC condoned it in some way. They were as duped by these people as the rest of us and have subsequently taken steps to try to ensure it doesn’t happen again. I think I'll frame this quote and bring it out the next time there's a BBC sex scandal.
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| georgenorman 17 Jul 23 8.49am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you think that institutional racism doesn’t exist and is just a myth? No-one is suggesting predatory paedophiles in the media, or other positions of power, don’t exist. What is mythical is the idea that the BBC condoned it in some way. They were as duped by these people as the rest of us and have subsequently taken steps to try to ensure it doesn’t happen again. I think that the majority of allegations of 'institutional racism' are myths - more of a problem is such nonsense as 'unconscious bias' (as agreed by the outgoing chair of the Institute of Race Relations, Colin Prescod, who stepped down after 43 years earlier this year). It seems that there is a case for believing that the BBC turned a blind eye and in some cases covered up.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 17 Jul 23 10.21am |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
HOW? He won't answer because he has no idea how....I've asked three times with no reply!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think I'll frame this quote and bring it out the next time there's a BBC sex scandal. There’s no need! Murdoch’s attack dogs are waiting to pounce on anything that can be written up to give the impression of any kind of corruption within the BBC. You can rely on them to build a whole mountain range from a molehill.
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