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Originally posted by Painter
Your last sentence, summed up your post. I stand by my opinion apropos events leading up to the Millwall goal and accept that others will have a different viewpoint.
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Originally posted by Oddball2021
No way! A very unfair assessment on Andersen! (Why do people on here insist on trying to deflate the confidence of our players?) The replays are there for all to see. PV (rightly) wants the back four and goalie to be able to pass out of trouble and develop play. Very simply, Butland mad an error: both Ward and Andersen were in plenty of space to receive his pass. Butland didn't pull his hair out and bang his fists into the turf because 'Andersen' did something wrong. His foot scewed into the turf and stuffed up his pass is all that happened: possibly Millwall's turf too as it took a while for Palace to get going. Just a mistake is all. FFS leave Andersen out of it. Absolutely correct , Butland even got the first bit right by making a little move to get one of the strikers to move to cover the pass out to Mitchell which gave Butland a simple straight ball to Anderson that he didn’t do for whatever reason, Anderson did exactly the right thing in holding his position in plenty of space to receive the ball.
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FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment
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Originally posted by Spiderman
FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! I really don't understand why in a day and age when almost every team has black players that idiot supporters dish out racist abuse. Millwall supporters are especially stupid seeing as one of their best players on the day was black
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Originally posted by berlinpalace
Absolutely correct , Butland even got the first bit right by making a little move to get one of the strikers to move to cover the pass out to Mitchell which gave Butland a simple straight ball to Anderson that he didn’t do for whatever reason, Anderson did exactly the right thing in holding his position in plenty of space to receive the ball. If a keeper fcuks up like that there is no excuse. If the back pass is poor and no one is moving for him he should just smash it upfield. Same with a defender putting it into row Z. We all want to play nice football but their number one job is to stop goals. There is a time and place for everything. It's as simple as that.
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Originally posted by NEILLO
If I was Andersen, I'd have been thinking '' for f8ck's sake, just lump it ! It's what all of us behind the goal were thinking! Still made it more entertaining as it's the hope that will have killed them.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I really don't understand why in a day and age when almost every team has black players that idiot supporters dish out racist abuse. Millwall supporters are especially stupid seeing as one of their best players on the day was black Amazingly, they have some black fans too. However I suspect this is in relation to Millwall fans chanting Chelsea Rentboy at Conor and Take it up the Arse at Palace fans in general both of which were apparently quite loud on TV. There is plenty of video footage out there (most from the Millwall end) so fans will be easy to identify. I didn't find either of the chants to be particularly offensive. There was far worse being shouted at us.
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect,when Guehi played the ball to Butland the two Millwall players who pressed him were outside the area.Perhaps fingers can be pointed at Andersen who was ball watching and allowed Afobe to run off the back of him and pressurise Butland. Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 11.00am) No! Andersen was in the perfect position, he was in space and offered himself to receive what should have been the most obvious and straightforward pass from Butland to relieve the pressure. Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would no longer have been Butlands ‘out ball’. Ridiculous observation/suggestion from someone who has obviously not played or coached the game.
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Originally posted by Willo
For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot. Defenders certainly shouldn't be tracking a man to our own 6 yard box when we have the ball. Andersen did exactly the right thing in pulling wider to create a passing option for Butland - it's not his fault Butland messed it up.
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Originally posted by Willo
For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot. Utter Garbage!
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
Utter Garbage! Less of the 'Utter' please.
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Originally posted by topcat
Amazingly, they have some black fans too. However I suspect this is in relation to Millwall fans chanting Chelsea Rentboy at Conor and Take it up the Arse at Palace fans in general both of which were apparently quite loud on TV. There is plenty of video footage out there (most from the Millwall end) so fans will be easy to identify. I didn't find either of the chants to be particularly offensive. There was far worse being shouted at us. Why wouldn’t we have black fans?? You really think Millwall games are like one big KKK meeting? Just because the knee gets booed (I don’t boo, for the record) doesn’t mean that everyone booing is a racist. A lot of people just don’t like BLM and the fact that they smashed up and defaced THEIR city a couple of summers ago. They find them divisive, and feel they cause more problems than they solve. That’s their opinion and they’ve a right to it. Doesn’t make them all racist. We’ve got plenty of black fans and we, us snarling racists, have voted black players as our player of the season on numerous occasions. There are lots black people who are seen as Millwall legends, both on and off the pitch, down The Den and held in very high regard down there. “Amazingly they have some black fans too” 😂 …. Clown
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Defenders certainly shouldn't be tracking a man to our own 6 yard box when we have the ball. Andersen did exactly the right thing in pulling wider to create a passing option for Butland - it's not his fault Butland messed it up.
It is obvious what Andersen was thinking but if he looks over his shoulder and sees the run of Afobe then I suspect he tracks the run. I have made my case, clearly others disagree and I really have nothing more to add.HOL would be poorer if it was merely an 'Echo chamber'. On a positive note,credit to our team for coming back from a goal down in front of howling rottweillers and scoring two excellent goals to win.Well done! Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 3.57pm)
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Originally posted by Spiderman
FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment This clean up of football banter is all about the protecting the global brand. I don't particularly enjoy seeing grown men act like children, but my worry is where it will all end. You keep moving the goalposts of behaviour and we eventually become robots.
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Originally posted by Wippa
Why wouldn’t we have black fans?? You really think Millwall games are like one big KKK meeting? Just because the knee gets booed (I don’t boo, for the record) doesn’t mean that everyone booing is a racist. A lot of people just don’t like BLM and the fact that they smashed up and defaced THEIR city a couple of summers ago. They find them divisive, and feel they cause more problems than they solve. That’s their opinion and they’ve a right to it. Doesn’t make them all racist. We’ve got plenty of black fans and we, us snarling racists, have voted black players as our player of the season on numerous occasions. There are lots black people who are seen as Millwall legends, both on and off the pitch, down The Den and held in very high regard down there. “Amazingly they have some black fans too” 😂 …. Clown Because of people like this. [Link] I was on the train from London Bridge to South Bermondsey and heard more racism in the 10 minutes I was on the train than I have probably heard in the last 5/10 years. And whats with the Millwall double H stickers?
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Originally posted by topcat
Because of people like this. [Link] I was on the train from London Bridge to South Bermondsey and heard more racism in the 10 minutes I was on the train than I have probably heard in the last 5/10 years. And whats with the Millwall double H stickers? I’m not saying there aren’t individuals who support Millwall who are racist. Of course there is. Show me a club in the country that doesn’t have any racist fans. But the way some are going on on here, surprised that we have black fans and black players, my life. And you just know it’s because of the booing of the knee. Booing of the knee, must be racist. Ha I don’t know what you heard on the train but in the past 20 years I’ve barely heard anything racist at Millwall, a couple of individual comments that’s it.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This clean up of football banter is all about the protecting the global brand. I don't particularly enjoy seeing grown men act like children, but my worry is where it will all end. You keep moving the goalposts of behaviour and we eventually become robots. Yep. I mean up to a couple of years ago you lot was happily singing homophobic abuse to Brighton fans on a regular basis. Now it’s not the done thing, and you’ve all jumped on the latest PC bandwagon and people on here saying the Chelsea rent boy chants were out of order. You couldn’t make it up.
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