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sprites  Auckland 29 Jun 22 10.17pm |
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Originally posted by Robk
Your* on your own it seems....Mateta has improved no end and will continue to do so...wouldn’t be surprised if him and Wilf end up as our top scorers ... That's fine...I've got no issue being on my own. Also no issues eating humble pie if next season he turns around and bangs in 20 goals. I just can't really see it. For the record, - I'm not saying he hasn't improved. He has. I'm simply saying so far, we've seen nothing to suggest he's got the quality to be the #1 striker in a team pushing for top 10. *You're.
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| Spiderman Horsham 30 Jun 22 6.21am |
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Originally posted by sprites
Evidence, not really. But I understand the game of football and have two eyes...I'd have thought others who share the same ability would share my views. He's like a drunk giraffe in the headlights. He works harder than the other two, I'll give him that. But at this level, I think you need the quality to go with the work rate. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, that’s what this board is about. Personally having seen over the whole of last season I believe he has what it takes to score goals at this level. May take a while, if not I too am happy to eat humble pie
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jun 22 8.58am |
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Originally posted by sprites
That's fine...I've got no issue being on my own. Also no issues eating humble pie if next season he turns around and bangs in 20 goals. I just can't really see it. For the record, - I'm not saying he hasn't improved. He has. I'm simply saying so far, we've seen nothing to suggest he's got the quality to be the #1 striker in a team pushing for top 10. *You're. I don't think you're talking such nonsense as we have seen on these boards from time to time Sprite including that I have undoubtedly contributed to as well. I like Mateta, first and foremost being an 'out and out' striker, he knows that's his job and will always endeavour to score goals. I think he has improved and will continue to do so however I do not envisage him scoring 20+ a season and becoming a player we desperately try to cling on to. Suffice to say I would be very happy to see this happen. I try not to get too caught up in the 'dream forward' aspirations as the reality of us unearthing/discovering and then even keeping such a player is highly unlikely to say the least... but one can still dream. I think Gayle had a period but asides from the unorthodox yet loveable bloke from Brighton and a makeweight we got from Morrison's sale we, and many other clubs, will rarely be in the position of signing and keeping superstar forwards who find the net regularly. I think PV and co. have a good little mix of forwards there for now and unless a miracle on Holmesdale Road happens I think the plan is to have a few 6 or 7 out of 10 options with some youngsters as oppose to finding the next Lewandowski. In any case, I'll be cheering on whoever starts up top for us next season!! COYP
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 30 Jun 22 9.16am |
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Originally posted by sprites
That's fine...I've got no issue being on my own. Also no issues eating humble pie if next season he turns around and bangs in 20 goals. I just can't really see it. For the record, - I'm not saying he hasn't improved. He has. I'm simply saying so far, we've seen nothing to suggest he's got the quality to be the #1 striker in a team pushing for top 10. *You're. Its not about eating humble pie, as he's not going to score 20 next season. Its about being pragmatic. I'd go so far to say that we'd all ideally like a striker better than him. Someone that would score 20 goals a season....The the real question is how realistic is that? And is it needed in the modern game? Is it needed for us to advance? The evidence suggests not..... - Last season only 2 players in the league scored over 20 league goals - The title winners top scorer was a centre mid, on 15 goals - Outside of the top 6 teams, only Wilf and Vardy scored over 13 league goals - Spurs had Son (23) and Kane (17) scoring a hatful of goals, and yet finished behind Chelsea who's top scorer was Mason Mount on 11. - We scored more goals last season than Newcastle, Wolves and Brighton who all finished above us. To get a striker that 'guarantees' you 20 goals a season you are looking at big money, maybe £150m? Guarantees you 10-15, maybe £40 mil? So when you look at our front line and ambitions for this season if we want to push forward Wilf - can he get 15 again There are goals there
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jun 22 9.19am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Its not about eating humble pie, as he's not going to score 20 next season. Its about being pragmatic. I'd go so far to say that we'd all ideally like a striker better than him. Someone that would score 20 goals a season....The the real question is how realistic is that? And is it needed in the modern game? Is it needed for us to advance? The evidence suggests not..... - Last season only 2 players in the league scored over 20 league goals - The title winners top scorer was a centre mid, on 15 goals - Outside of the top 6 teams, only Wilf and Vardy scored over 13 league goals - Spurs had Son (23) and Kane (17) scoring a hatful of goals, and yet finished behind Chelsea who's top scorer was Mason Mount on 11. - We scored more goals last season than Newcastle, Wolves and Brighton who all finished above us. To get a striker that 'guarantees' you 20 goals a season you are looking at big money, maybe £150m? Guarantees you 10-15, maybe £40 mil? So when you look at our front line and ambitions for this season if we want to push forward Wilf - can he get 15 again There are goals there Good post, liked all of that.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| Putitout Oxford 30 Jun 22 9.37am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Its not about eating humble pie, as he's not going to score 20 next season. Its about being pragmatic. I'd go so far to say that we'd all ideally like a striker better than him. Someone that would score 20 goals a season....The the real question is how realistic is that? And is it needed in the modern game? Is it needed for us to advance? The evidence suggests not..... - Last season only 2 players in the league scored over 20 league goals - The title winners top scorer was a centre mid, on 15 goals - Outside of the top 6 teams, only Wilf and Vardy scored over 13 league goals - Spurs had Son (23) and Kane (17) scoring a hatful of goals, and yet finished behind Chelsea who's top scorer was Mason Mount on 11. - We scored more goals last season than Newcastle, Wolves and Brighton who all finished above us. To get a striker that 'guarantees' you 20 goals a season you are looking at big money, maybe £150m? Guarantees you 10-15, maybe £40 mil? So when you look at our front line and ambitions for this season if we want to push forward Wilf - can he get 15 again There are goals there Agree with this, and Nicolas. Sprites is not wrong either if anyone wants to argue that Mateta is already a top striker.
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 30 Jun 22 10.21am |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Its not about eating humble pie, as he's not going to score 20 next season. Its about being pragmatic. I'd go so far to say that we'd all ideally like a striker better than him. Someone that would score 20 goals a season....The the real question is how realistic is that? And is it needed in the modern game? Is it needed for us to advance? The evidence suggests not..... - Last season only 2 players in the league scored over 20 league goals - The title winners top scorer was a centre mid, on 15 goals - Outside of the top 6 teams, only Wilf and Vardy scored over 13 league goals - Spurs had Son (23) and Kane (17) scoring a hatful of goals, and yet finished behind Chelsea who's top scorer was Mason Mount on 11. - We scored more goals last season than Newcastle, Wolves and Brighton who all finished above us. To get a striker that 'guarantees' you 20 goals a season you are looking at big money, maybe £150m? Guarantees you 10-15, maybe £40 mil? So when you look at our front line and ambitions for this season if we want to push forward Wilf - can he get 15 again There are goals there NO
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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If he was that good he would want to go somewhere else.| Painter Croydon 30 Jun 22 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by sprites
That's fine...I've got no issue being on my own. Also no issues eating humble pie if next season he turns around and bangs in 20 goals. I just can't really see it. For the record, - I'm not saying he hasn't improved. He has. I'm simply saying so far, we've seen nothing to suggest he's got the quality to be the #1 striker in a team pushing for top 10. *You're. Who is this 20 goal a season goal scorer, we should be signing?
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| Fatherken 30 Jun 22 2.20pm |
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In my view Edouard is a better forward and striker than Mateta and will be our main striker by the end of the upcoming season
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The groover  Danbury 30 Jun 22 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by Fatherken
In my view Edouard is a better forward and striker than Mateta and will be our main striker by the end of the upcoming season Same here
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| daven Hailsham 30 Jun 22 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
Same here Whichever one Vieira chooses as his striker I just hope that he gives him a settled run in the team and this will also help the midfield getting familiar with providing chances for a particular type of forward.
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 30 Jun 22 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by Fatherken
In my view Edouard is a better forward and striker than Mateta and will be our main striker by the end of the upcoming season Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 01 Jul 22 7.05am |
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Edouard lacks work rate and if he adds this to his game then he may be first choice. I have my doubts he can.
Bring back Brolin |
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| antipodeagle Wellington 01 Jul 22 10.03am |
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Originally posted by Fatherken
In my view Edouard is a better forward and striker than Mateta and will be our main striker by the end of the upcoming season He certainly looked better in the early months of being here. Mateta looked like a Sunday League player until Christmas. However, since then their progression curves have been going in very different directions. If Mateta improves as much over the next 6 months as he did the last, Edouard won't get a look in. Hopefully Edouard relocates his mojo soon. If he doesn't he may be a bit part player.
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| taylors lovechild 01 Jul 22 11.56am |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Edouard lacks work rate and if he adds this to his game then he may be first choice. I have my doubts he can. I remember that was a criticism from some Celtic fans towards the end of his time there. I think he is a quality player but in today's modern game there is little room for players who are not willing to bust a gut. Unfortunately for him he never got a long run in the team last season so it was probably hard for him to find consistency or reach peak fitness. I'm certainly not writing him off, but I must admit he hasn't reached the levels I hoped he might when we signed him.
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| Painter Croydon 01 Jul 22 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Edouard lacks work rate and if he adds this to his game then he may be first choice. I have my doubts he can. What’s this got to do with Transfers, is he being sold?
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| Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 01 Jul 22 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
What’s this got to do with Transfers, is he being sold? Wouldn't mind a swap deal, Mayoral, Dolberg or even Dennis
“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn |
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