Watched the game on the telly here in Canada and the lack of courage from the palace team was clear after the first goal. In stead of doubling down on the structure Paddy had put in place, they all wandered around doing their own thing with no cohesion and no awareness of Arsenal players around them. Tomkins, Ward, Luca completely outplayed and Mitchell / Zaha continually failed to work together in both defence and attack. Edouard was useless.

Let's not kid ourselves, this group does not have what it currently takes to beat those teams below us, either skill wise, team wise or attitude wise. The new manager has a massive mountain to climb. Some is fixable, some not, relegation looks more likely than less likely

Agreed , what is more worrying was the argueing between players and also my most dissapointment was fans shouting and booeing Joel Ward, he’s Been a great servant and wouldn’t even have got here without him

“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

So that would be the same Jordan Ayew that has 15 goals in 148 appearances for Palace and yet you want to play him as central striker - as he could surprise a few people..!!

Yes your are right on the basis that this could surprise a few people - mainly the people who know something about football..!!

Jordan Ayew should be nowhere near the starting XI for the rest of the season - and subject to us staying up should then be jettisoned into the Championship because that is the level he is..!!

Discussion over..!!

COYP

We look like a tired side that needs a break. I listen to the likes of Pep and Arteta talking about how tired the players are and the need to rotate players and use the squad. They can afford to bench players like de Bruyne. We have just finished a horrendous run of tough games against the top teams in the league and used the same 15 players all the time. No wonder they look beaten and lost. Unfortunately that doesn’t put us in the best position to go again after the break. The other players in our first team squad may not be the best but we should have used them during these games instead of flogging a tired horse to death.

He has been a great servant has Wardy

Ha ha