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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What kind of society will we have if we just cancel the bank accounts of people we don't like. Get a grip. Have you? It's not what they are doing. It's what you think they are doing, encouraged by Farage's, and the right-wing press's, propaganda. They are closing accounts for commercial reasons. They are commercial businesses, not public utilities.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They might be different to those of a caucus here who themselves hold views regarded as controversial by the wider population, but they aren't elsewhere. They are what at least one poster derogatorily describes as those of a "normie"! What the site and its moderators do is up to them. It's their ball. Their game. So far they have obviously decided their reputation isn't being damaged by my, or your, presence here. Other opinions may exist. It seems the wider population deem your views to be controversial. Maybe we could do a vote on the HOL. "Are wisbechs views controversial?" Im sure it will be an overwhelming yes. Even at that I would not want you to be banned or have your assets seized, or bank accounts closed. As you have a right to have your views even tho they are controversial and not what the wider population think. Anyways I have really enjoyed your meltdown over Farage so please continue.
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
Having followed these political debates. I can see that Wisbech is an intelligent man. However I know that if you say black he will say white. Not quite sure what's going on. Are you part of the 77th brigade Wisbech? Lol. Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 12.17pm) I happily agree with opinions that make sense. Regrettably, such opinions are quite rare in this place, populated as it is by those with a very particular viewpoint who have successfully driven away most contrary views. I hadn't heard of the 77th brigade so thanks for the heads-up. Very interesting and necessary. I would have loved to have been a member but sadly am now far too old. I will have to content myself in providing voluntary service on the web.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I happily agree with opinions that make sense. Regrettably, such opinions are quite rare in this place, populated as it is by those with a very particular viewpoint who have successfully driven away most contrary views. I hadn't heard of the 77th brigade so thanks for the heads-up. Very interesting and necessary. I would have loved to have been a member but sadly am now far too old. I will have to content myself in providing voluntary service on the web. -------------------------------------------------------- I very rarely get involved in these conversations. But I feel compelled to sometimes contribute. Unfortunately both yourself and others become far too emotional when debating. It doesn't need to be personal. I might just add that if people were a little less emotional, your views would be dismantled quite simply. I look forward to chatting with you more. Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 12.48pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have you? It's not what they are doing. It's what you think they are doing, encouraged by Farage's, and the right-wing press's, propaganda. They are closing accounts for commercial reasons. They are commercial businesses, not public utilities. It amounts to the same thing as you know full well. They also still exist because of public funds. We all know that you can see the bigger picture, so why not just be a man for a change and admit that this lunacy does not serve the greater good, rather than hide behind mealy mouthed excuses.
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
With regards to Wisbech comments on the banks commercial decision on cancelling Nigel. Firstly "the controversial views" he holds. The key point is that Farage holds views that the majority share.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The key point is that Farage holds views that the majority share. -------------------------------------------------------------- More importantly in my opinion; the people who disagree with Nigel and have the most influence, are the establishment. The people at coutts are on some level being directed. Because it makes absolutely no commercial business sense. See Bud light for more details. Lol
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
-------------------------------------------------------------- More importantly in my opinion; the people who disagree with Nigel and have the most influence, are the establishment. The people at coutts are on some level being directed. Because it makes absolutely no commercial business sense. See Bud light for more details. Lol Clearly not as this has been front page news for over a week. This is a nothing story really and should never have been front page news.
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
-------------------------------------------------------------- More importantly in my opinion; the people who disagree with Nigel and have the most influence, are the establishment. The people at coutts are on some level being directed. Because it makes absolutely no commercial business sense. See Bud light for more details. Lol Absolutely. The media and business generally has decided to adopt Marxist ideas whether they realise it or not. They largely control the flow of ideas through news, advertising and fiction.
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Originally posted by palace99
Clearly not as this has been front page news for over a week. This is a nothing story really and should never have been front page news. ------------------------------------------------
Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 1.47pm) Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 1.49pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No, Coutts changed. That’ their.right. That you don’t approve is irrelevant. They probably don’t expect you to be a client. Yes, Coutts changed - probably toeing the Woke line propagated by Alison Rose. And I can imagine that whoever instigated NF’s debanking thought that they would enhance their own reputation internally as a result . That you approve of their actions is irrelevant given how the City, the Government and the Regulator has reacted. And what has your last sentence got to do with anything ? As well as being irrelevant, it’s well wide of the mark as I’m a long standing “ client “. As such, my requirements of my bank is to effectively manage my assets and be competitive in terms of service. I don’t require them to make the decision that they have in this case. My guess is that if Coutts could turn the clock back now they would happily do so. Wisbech, I respect your views although I’m not in agreement with them. It’s good to see well articulated debate on here.
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
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Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 1.47pm) Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 1.49pm) Silencing people that have a different opinion by whichever means is sinister and very undesirable. For some reason, some on the left now find this acceptable. They seem to have forgotten a core value of a free society. Shame on them. They have learned nothing from history or from the wisdom of our forebears.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Silencing people that have a different opinion by whichever means is sinister and very undesirable. For some reason, some on the left now find this acceptable. They seem to have forgotten a core value of a free society. Shame on them. They have learned nothing from history or from the wisdom of our forebears.[/quo ----------------------------------------------------------------
It's a shame what has happened to the left in politics. Only a few years ago I would have considered myself a bit of a lefty. However over the last 10 years in particular they have gone completely insane. That's why I got the hell out of there. Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 2.20pm)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are so predictable. When I wrote that I expected you to jump on it. Farage is hypocritical in too many ways to list them all, but in none you would either recognise or accept. His whole ethos is hypocritical. He claims to be protecting the common man, when really he is interested in promoting his own politics. In the recent event he has used his private life for public purposes. Where has he been hypocritical during the Coutts affair?
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
[quote=eaglesdare It seems the wider population deem your views to be controversial. Maybe we could do a vote on the HOL. "Are wisbechs views controversial?" Im sure it will be an overwhelming yes. Even at that I would not want you to be banned or have your assets seized, or bank accounts closed. As you have a right to have your views even tho they are controversial and not what the wider population think. Anyways I have really enjoyed your meltdown over Farage so please continue.
Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 12.35pm)
I find wisbechs views controversial. However I believe he still has a right to air his views without being cancelled or debanked or banned. I would stand up for his right to have those views without being cancelled.
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