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 davenotamonkey  27 Jun 16 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yes they will but I sense a change in politics that has not occurred in our lifetimes. Especially if Labour keep going further left. For the curious among us, were the referendum conducted under the FPTP system, the results would have been: Remain: 31.2% I suspect after the massive Labour disconnect in the north, they'd pick up quite a few MPs up there. Enough to make a significant contribution to what will plausibly be a very EUphilic negotiation team. That said, given I trust politicians about as far as I can throw them, a General Election before the end of this (fixed-term) parliament would be a disaster.
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| davenotamonkey 27 Jun 16 10.42pm |
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Haha - fair play Kerm ;-)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Jun 16 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by exbiggineagle
Leavers didnt reckon on Daveys lets leave ourselves open for 3 whole months whilst we dither. The worst decision he could of ever made for the UK economy. It's hurting the German and French stock markets as well, which is all you can analyse at this current time. This would give the best negotiators leverage but I fear we're now a nation of mice and whipping boys. Anybody sh1t stirring and claiming that we're now the 6th richest economy and the French are the 5th blatantly ignore the foundations of an economy. It's skilled workforce and application for a start, not to mention not willing to strike the moment croissants aren't supplied in the morning
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| davenotamonkey 27 Jun 16 10.59pm |
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One of our unelected, unaccountable EU Commissioners. The one that states "(I) do not take my mandate from the European people" as she negotiates TTIP. Never happier to be leaving. [Iceland, of course, have repeatedly told the EU to fcuk off, and that they have no intention of joining] Edited by davenotamonkey (27 Jun 2016 11.01pm)
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Attachment: | nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jun 16 11.06pm |
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Has anyone mentioned the drop in credit rating? Oh and... [Link]
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| Bill E Pilgrim New Addington 28 Jun 16 1.11am |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
Out of the EU and into the EEA mostly likely. Maybe we just wanted an extra letter. Edited by blackpalacefan (27 Jun 2016 8.01pm) So we obey the rules but have no say in the rules...we add "take back control" to the other BREXIT lies. So the BREXITERs have been well and truly rolled over by Boris, Govey and Nigel and taken us down with them. I bet the Daily Mail, the Sun and the Telegraph find another way of spinning it as their owners get richer and richer far far away. Its lucky the newspaper owners and old Etonians aren't the establishment, otherwise the BREXITERs would look really really silly.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 7.35am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Since when have you been interested in credit ratings? If Corbyn had got anywhere near being PM the same thing would have happened and you wouldn't have said a thing. The ideological left are partly to blame for brexit as they have spent decades telling the working classes how they should be loving immigration and multiculturalism. Those outside London look at what's happened to it and have gone...'no thanks'....they can clearly see what's coming. This was their one chance to register a rejection. The working class have left the Labour party and that's why they have zero chance of forming a government until they elect someone who can actually relate to the real world concerns of the traditional Labour vote.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 28 Jun 16 9.22am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
In line with the rest of the EU, then. France, Germany and even the US of A lost their top rating some while back. Germany is actually AAA and stable. France AA and stable. UK is AA and negative. SO not in line. While Australia rating is AAA and stable which is frankly laughable given the huge insecurities they have over their long term economy. While the ratings may be a joke, they do have an impact unfortunately. Edited by OknotOK (28 Jun 2016 9.40am)
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| Part Time James 28 Jun 16 9.31am |
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We did it people! 300 pages!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 28 Jun 16 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
We did it people! 300 pages! Only 72 for me.
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| Part Time James 28 Jun 16 10.04am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Only 72 for me. Oh blimey, even this forum has begun to devalue. Yet more doom and gloom.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 28 Jun 16 10.12am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Only 72 for me. 120 for me. Because of this thread I was contemplating changing my settings and increasing the posts per page
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 28 Jun 16 10.20am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Not at all but when you see some of the racist crap that is being put out against ordinary human beings by people that have been emboldened by the leave vote then that worries me. I realise it was not the intention of the leave campaign (at least I'd like to think not) but the far right do seem to have received a boost because of the nationalistic (in the sense of the UK as a whole) tone of parts of the campaign. That is not a good thing. Firstly I have not heard one Racist comment from any politician, except the remainers accusing anyone who doesnt agree with them of being a jingoistic knuckle dragger. Next...In your opinion knuckle draggers of the far right like Britain First etc have gained popularity because of the leave campaign, pretty big assumption on your part, in fact I would argue after the MP was shot dead by a follower of that nasty bunch of pigs, that far from benefiting from recent events they have lost out and long may that trend continue. "at least I hope not" again there's just a little hint that deep down you think all out voters are screaming Nazis goose stepping their way to Whitehall. Nationalistic, would that be the same nationalism shown by the Welsh Assembly, and that complete thunder cnut Sturgeon from the SNP ? Somehow at some point in Englands History it has become the norm for anyone who shows the slightest bit of pride in their flag or indeed their country as a screaming lunatic racist. That is wrong, England is a great country full of diversity and many different cultures, and those people from all backgrounds voted to stop having the piss ripped out of us by Brussels. Not racist, just normal folk black and white who had enough.
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| Hoof Hearted 28 Jun 16 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And so Pandora's Box has been opened... This is why the Anti-nazi League came into being. To shut up and take on cvnts like those. 40% cited immigration as their primary reason for voting 'out' our survey said last week. Well, in The Metro anyway. As Jamie pointed out, Pandora's box contained hope. But using your analogy the box was opened long ago when protests like that shown below were allowed in Britain.... looks a lot more menacing than your picture! And they weren't in places like Exeter or London, but in the places up north that overwhelmigly voted leave because they were the ones most affected by immigration despite Labour advising them to vote remain.
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| johnno42000 28 Jun 16 11.00am |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Firstly I have not heard one Racist comment from any politician, except the remainers accusing anyone who doesnt agree with them of being a jingoistic knuckle dragger. Next...In your opinion knuckle draggers of the far right like Britain First etc have gained popularity because of the leave campaign, pretty big assumption on your part, in fact I would argue after the MP was shot dead by a follower of that nasty bunch of pigs, that far from benefiting from recent events they have lost out and long may that trend continue. "at least I hope not" again there's just a little hint that deep down you think all out voters are screaming Nazis goose stepping their way to Whitehall. Nationalistic, would that be the same nationalism shown by the Welsh Assembly, and that complete thunder cnut Sturgeon from the SNP ? Somehow at some point in Englands History it has become the norm for anyone who shows the slightest bit of pride in their flag or indeed their country as a screaming lunatic racist. That is wrong, England is a great country full of diversity and many different cultures, and those people from all backgrounds voted to stop having the piss ripped out of us by Brussels. Not racist, just normal folk black and white who had enough. I didn't say any politician had said any racist comment. I meant the people that are abusing ordinary human beings in their shops, on the streets etc. 57% increase in hate crimes since the referendum. Who do you think is doing these hate crimes? If it isn't the far right groups being emboldened then itmust be non far-right people and that, in it's own way is even worse. People are scared. [Link] Please don't make assumptions about me. I genuinely hope that the politicians didn't foresee their positions as encouraging racism. Don't you hope that as well? Nationalism is a dangerous card to play. I do not have a problem with being proud of your country and indeed am proud to be Welsh and British but you do not have to dislike another country, race etc to be proud of your own country. Some people on the far right do put down, abuse and attack people that do not fit their view of what British is and that is wrong. Or do you disagree?
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