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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.01pm
Originally posted by -TUX- The only thing you've ''publicised'' is your own ignorance regarding the facts. You posted ''A tragic week, but if you poison the atmosphere, someone is going to get sick'' but refuse to accept that the poison was administered many many years ago. Don't do that. Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Please clarify. My take is that the poison is the build up of anti immigrant xenophobic borderline racist rhetoric that (to my mind) seeped into general discourse over the past few weeks.
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.01pm

Originally posted by -TUX-

The only thing you've ''publicised'' is your own ignorance regarding the facts.
You posted ''A tragic week, but if you poison the atmosphere, someone is going to get sick'' but refuse to accept that the poison was administered many many years ago.
Don't do that.

Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Please clarify.

My take is that the poison is the build up of anti immigrant xenophobic borderline racist rhetoric that (to my mind) seeped into general discourse over the past few weeks.

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turkish eagle 18 Jun 16 8.08pm
Originally posted by -TUX- The only thing you've ''publicised'' is your own ignorance regarding the facts. You posted ''A tragic week, but if you poison the atmosphere, someone is going to get sick'' but refuse to accept that the poison was administered many many years ago. Don't do that. I'll do what I like. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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18 Jun 16 8.08pm

Originally posted by -TUX-

I'll do what I like. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 18 Jun 16 8.15pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Please clarify. Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now. My take is that the poison is the build up of anti immigrant xenophobic borderline racist rhetoric that (to my mind) seeped into general discourse over the past few weeks. My take differs. See above. Edited by -TUX- (18 Jun 2016 8.15pm) Edited by -TUX- (18 Jun 2016 8.16pm) Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 18 Jun 16 8.15pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Please clarify.
Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now.

My take is that the poison is the build up of anti immigrant xenophobic borderline racist rhetoric that (to my mind) seeped into general discourse over the past few weeks.
My take differs. See above.

Edited by -TUX- (18 Jun 2016 8.15pm)

Edited by -TUX- (18 Jun 2016 8.16pm)

Time to move forward together.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.16pm
Originally posted by turkish eagle I'll do what I like. We'll just have to agree to disagree. How as a Turkish person do you feel about the way Turks have been represented as a result of the possibility of Turkey possibly becoming a fully fledged member of the EU
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.16pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

I'll do what I like. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

How as a Turkish person do you feel about the way Turks have been represented as a result of the possibility of Turkey possibly becoming a fully fledged member of the EU

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.21pm
Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Quote Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now. Is poison really the right word to describe immigrant / immigration? If anything, I'd say the reaction of some towards immigrants / immigration borders on poisonous.
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.21pm

Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country?

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Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now.

Is poison really the right word to describe immigrant / immigration? If anything, I'd say the reaction of some towards immigrants / immigration borders on poisonous.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 18 Jun 16 8.25pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country? Quote Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now. Is poison really the right word to describe immigrant / immigration? If anything, I'd say the reaction of some towards immigrants / immigration borders on poisonous. It wasn't my choice of word, i just rolled with it. Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 18 Jun 16 8.25pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are you saying that immigration is an administration of poison to this country?

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Not at all. Only in the very large doses that we've been subjected to for many years now.

Is poison really the right word to describe immigrant / immigration? If anything, I'd say the reaction of some towards immigrants / immigration borders on poisonous.

It wasn't my choice of word, i just rolled with it.

Time to move forward together.

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turkish eagle 18 Jun 16 8.27pm
Originally posted by nickgusset How as a Turkish person do you feel about the way Turks have been represented as a result of the possibility of Turkey possibly becoming a fully fledged member of the EU Well, it's ensured I'm voting to stay in even though I was undecided at the beginning of the campaign. In terms of how Turk's are represented I think there's underlying racism behind some of it. I personally don't think Turkey will ever fulfil the criteria to join in my lifetime, which for Turks is a pity because they could do with the improved democracy and freedom that would result from doing so. What was quite telling was when Gove talked about 5 countries involved in accession talks but only named two, Turkey and Albania. There are 35 chapters Turkey has to complete before fulfilling the criteria and in 10 years it's achieved 1 so Turkey has just been brought into the debate to s*** stir. Edited by turkish eagle (18 Jun 2016 8.30pm)
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18 Jun 16 8.27pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

How as a Turkish person do you feel about the way Turks have been represented as a result of the possibility of Turkey possibly becoming a fully fledged member of the EU

Well, it's ensured I'm voting to stay in even though I was undecided at the beginning of the campaign. In terms of how Turk's are represented I think there's underlying racism behind some of it. I personally don't think Turkey will ever fulfil the criteria to join in my lifetime, which for Turks is a pity because they could do with the improved democracy and freedom that would result from doing so. What was quite telling was when Gove talked about 5 countries involved in accession talks but only named two, Turkey and Albania. There are 35 chapters Turkey has to complete before fulfilling the criteria and in 10 years it's achieved 1 so Turkey has just been brought into the debate to s*** stir.

Edited by turkish eagle (18 Jun 2016 8.30pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.48pm
Originally posted by -TUX- It wasn't my choice of word, i just rolled with it. Fair enough, I just didn't want you to be unwittingly misconstrued as it seemed out of character for you
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 8.48pm

Originally posted by -TUX-

It wasn't my choice of word, i just rolled with it.

Fair enough, I just didn't want you to be unwittingly misconstrued as it seemed out of character for you

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 16 9.06pm
. Edited by Cucking Funt (18 Jun 2016 9.06pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 16 9.06pm

Edited by Cucking Funt (18 Jun 2016 9.06pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 9.21pm
Originally posted by turkish eagle Well, it's ensured I'm voting to stay in even though I was undecided at the beginning of the campaign. In terms of how Turk's are represented I think there's underlying racism behind some of it. I personally don't think Turkey will ever fulfil the criteria to join in my lifetime, which for Turks is a pity because they could do with the improved democracy and freedom that would result from doing so. What was quite telling was when Gove talked about 5 countries involved in accession talks but only named two, Turkey and Albania. There are 35 chapters Turkey has to complete before fulfilling the criteria and in 10 years it's achieved 1 so Turkey has just been brought into the debate to s*** stir. Edited by turkish eagle (18 Jun 2016 8.30pm) Thanks for answering. Back to thread topic, some have said the crime wasn't political, but according to press reports 'Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said.' I think there's a good chance that his links with hard right wing ideology alongside photos of Mair (if it was him) behind a Britain First banner shows him to be racist. Although we all like the idea of free speech, should Britain First and their ilk be outlawed because of incitement to racial hatred?
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 9.21pm

Originally posted by turkish eagle

Edited by turkish eagle (18 Jun 2016 8.30pm)

Thanks for answering.

Back to thread topic, some have said the crime wasn't political, but according to press reports 'Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said.'

I think there's a good chance that his links with hard right wing ideology alongside photos of Mair (if it was him) behind a Britain First banner shows him to be racist.
Although we all like the idea of free speech, should Britain First and their ilk be outlawed because of incitement to racial hatred?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 16 9.27pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Thanks for answering. Back to thread topic, some have said the crime wasn't political, but according to press reports 'Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said.' I think there's a good chance that his links with hard right wing ideology alongside photos of Mair (if it was him) behind a Britain First banner shows him to be racist. Although we all like the idea of free speech, should Britain First and their ilk be outlawed because of incitement to racial hatred? You don't kill an idea by banning it. Has history taught you nothing? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 16 9.27pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Thanks for answering.

You don't kill an idea by banning it. Has history taught you nothing?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 9.30pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt You don't kill an idea by banning it. Has history taught you nothing? This is true, but you can also run the risk of excarbating iffy ideology by allowing it to flourish on social media etc. Tis a moral conundrum.
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Shizzlehurst 18 Jun 16 9.30pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

You don't kill an idea by banning it. Has history taught you nothing?

This is true, but you can also run the risk of excarbating iffy ideology by allowing it to flourish on social media etc.
Tis a moral conundrum.

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