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 Matov  03 Feb 21 7.08pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
And that is why Labour has lost the votes of working class people. Sneering Emily Thornberry didn't get it. The reaction by many on the Left to the proposal is staggering. The Guardian carried a response which said that if Labour were to adopt this proposed policy it might lose its 'core' voters. LOL. Any British political party that might lose voters because it decides to promote the Union Jack simply cannot ever achieve power. They are beyond delusional. They are not interested in ever winning a majority. They just want to be a protest movement.
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cryrst  The garden of England 03 Feb 21 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The reaction by many on the Left to the proposal is staggering. The Guardian carried a response which said that if Labour were to adopt this proposed policy it might lose its 'core' voters. LOL. Any British political party that might lose voters because it decides to promote the Union Jack simply cannot ever achieve power. They are beyond delusional. They are not interested in ever winning a majority. They just want to be a protest movement. Is kier a closet tory?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 Feb 21 7.32pm |
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I quite like Eddie but the point is well made
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Originally posted by Badger11
I quite like Eddie but the point is well made Apparently, he is desperate for a 'safe' Labour seat and is supposedly angling to be included in female only short-lists.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Feb 21 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Incessant EU ball-watching bores. When we have 5 million projected unemployed, a busted economy due to the pandemic and loss of the EU market, give the queue at the food bank a union jack to wave.
No, not due to the pandemic, due to the reaction to the pandemic. These were political and media choices made for us. What's coming down the pipe was never approved as the better option by me. As for your seeming preference for the EU....which everyone notes you refuse to move to....they are even more in the mire than the UK. At least the UK has economic flexibility and isn't ruled by the one size fits all Mark...errr sorry the Euro. What's coming is god awful but it'll be the same everywhere but being independent we have several advantages over EU slave states. And as with all economic recessions, there will always be those that prosper.
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| chris123 hove actually 04 Feb 21 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Guilty as charged. And whilst I use the word 'interesting' with some trepidation, the on-going political relationship that seems to be developing between Michael Gove and Maroš Šefčovič who is the vice-President of the European Commission has caught my attention. Both issued joint statements over both the crisis last week concerning the vaccine export ban and also now over resolving the issues concerning haulage to Northern Ireland. Suspect they are both the power behind their respective thrones at the moment. And with Šefčovič being Slovakian, would make sense for the UK to develop good diplomatic links with the smaller EU nations for a variety of reasons. Got a lot of time for Michael Gove.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Feb 21 5.38pm |
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Patriotism is 'the last refuge of the scoundrel'. No wonder Labour have adopted it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 04 Feb 21 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Incessant EU ball-watching bores. When we have 5 million projected unemployed, a busted economy due to the pandemic and loss of the EU market, give the queue at the food bank a union jack to wave.
Well it's not as if there is anything else to do at the moment.
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| Matov 04 Feb 21 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Got a lot of time for Michael Gove.
Labour have nothing that even comes close. In the absolute political mire at the moment and with no obvious candidates to even replace Starmer if such a move comes about.
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corkery  Cork City 04 Feb 21 5.49pm |
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The DUP needs the protocol gone. If they don't then they might not win this Summer's election.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Feb 21 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
The DUP needs the protocol gone. If they don't then they might not win this Summer's election. Van Leyden had a real mare over vaccines, in fact she acted promptly to overturn the decision made by her deputy, but hey that's politics. But she must really stay out of Irish politics altogether, the deal was done. Will the North ditch the Union, C ?
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| corkery Cork City 04 Feb 21 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Van Leyden had a real mare over vaccines, in fact she acted promptly to overturn the decision made by her deputy, but hey that's politics. But she must really stay out of Irish politics altogether, the deal was done. Will the North ditch the Union, C ?
The Downing St declaration means it's up to the people in NI. This generation will need to die before any referendum. Nobody wants Northern Ireland anyway. British and Irish people both claim to love the place, sing songs about the place but it's a black hole for money. Regardless of what side you're on (I'm on neither). The main thing is peace there. Edited by corkery (04 Feb 2021 7.25pm)
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 04 Feb 21 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
The Downing St declaration means it's up to the people in NI. This generation will need to die before any referendum. Nobody wants Northern Ireland anyway. British and Irish people both claim to love the place, sing songs about the place but it's a black hole for money. Regardless of what side you're on (I'm on neither). The main thing is peace there. Edited by corkery (04 Feb 2021 7.25pm) Mary Lou Mcdonald was on form today, she said the D.U.P wanted brexit, signed up to it, now the real;ity of it has hit they have to take the consequences, true enough, dont get what you shouted for, then try and change it when you have it.
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| chris123 hove actually 04 Feb 21 7.45pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
The Downing St declaration means it's up to the people in NI. This generation will need to die before any referendum. Nobody wants Northern Ireland anyway. British and Irish people both claim to love the place, sing songs about the place but it's a black hole for money. Regardless of what side you're on (I'm on neither). The main thing is peace there. Edited by corkery (04 Feb 2021 7.25pm) Maybe they should think of a third option, an independent NI. I worked for DuPont in the 1980's and they had a plant in Maydown. A subsidiary was Conoco and I also worked in Aberdeen. At the time there was more nationalism in the North than in NE Scotland.
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| cryrst The garden of England 07 Feb 21 11.05am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Great result on the vaccine But exports down, allegedly, 68% Chimes with the nightmare retail businesses were kicking off about last month. Not even sure if that’s possible to rectify - resolving it would surely mean rejoining the single market Retail start ups and SMEs are screwed Tbh if this number stays after 6 months or so then yes a cause for concern but we are just 6 weeks into brexit. We are rewriting a 40 odd year system.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Feb 21 11.08am |
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Originally posted by corkery
The Downing St declaration means it's up to the people in NI. This generation will need to die before any referendum. Nobody wants Northern Ireland anyway. British and Irish people both claim to love the place, sing songs about the place but it's a black hole for money. Regardless of what side you're on (I'm on neither). The main thing is peace there. Edited by corkery (04 Feb 2021 7.25pm) Like the rest of Ireland then. All the British isles countries live considerably beyond their means.....the English though have much more economic muscle.
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