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OldFella London 10 Jan 22 5.01pm
Originally posted by Wippa Yep. I mean up to a couple of years ago you lot was happily singing homophobic abuse to Brighton fans on a regular basis. Now it’s not the done thing, and you’ve all jumped on the latest PC bandwagon and people on here saying the Chelsea rent boy chants were out of order. You couldn’t make it up. Haven't you got your own website to pollute and argue with people on? You got schooled on the pitch, your fans showed your club up again off the pitch. Move on mate. Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

OldFella

London 10 Jan 22 5.01pm

Originally posted by Wippa

Yep. I mean up to a couple of years ago you lot was happily singing homophobic abuse to Brighton fans on a regular basis. Now it’s not the done thing, and you’ve all jumped on the latest PC bandwagon and people on here saying the Chelsea rent boy chants were out of order. You couldn’t make it up.

Haven't you got your own website to pollute and argue with people on? You got schooled on the pitch, your fans showed your club up again off the pitch. Move on mate.

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Jan 22 5.20pm
Originally posted by Wippa Yep. I mean up to a couple of years ago you lot was happily singing homophobic abuse to Brighton fans on a regular basis. Now it’s not the done thing, and you’ve all jumped on the latest PC bandwagon and people on here saying the Chelsea rent boy chants were out of order. You couldn’t make it up. So 'the latest PC bandwagon' is not homophobically abusing people?

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 10 Jan 22 5.20pm

Originally posted by Wippa

So 'the latest PC bandwagon' is not homophobically abusing people?

berlinpalace berlin 10 Jan 22 5.46pm
Originally posted by palace99 If a keeper fcuks up like that there is no excuse. If the back pass is poor and no one is moving for him he should just smash it upfield. Same with a defender putting it into row Z. We all want to play nice football but their number one job is to stop goals. There is a time and place for everything. It's as simple as that. But it wasn’t a bad back pass, everything was set up for him to play a straightforward pass to Anderson, something they practice every day. He messed up but it wasn’t a situation that he should’ve just hoofed it, it was going exactly as it was supposed to until he had a brain fart.

berlinpalace

berlin 10 Jan 22 5.46pm

Originally posted by palace99

If a keeper fcuks up like that there is no excuse. If the back pass is poor and no one is moving for him he should just smash it upfield. Same with a defender putting it into row Z.

We all want to play nice football but their number one job is to stop goals. There is a time and place for everything.

It's as simple as that.

But it wasn’t a bad back pass, everything was set up for him to play a straightforward pass to Anderson, something they practice every day. He messed up but it wasn’t a situation that he should’ve just hoofed it, it was going exactly as it was supposed to until he had a brain fart.

silvertop Portishead 10 Jan 22 6.15pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This clean up of football banter is all about the protecting the global brand. I don't particularly enjoy seeing grown men act like children, but my worry is where it will all end. You keep moving the goalposts of behaviour and we eventually become robots. Yup. I went on one of those mandatory inclusiveness courses. They actually said that the "victims" of comments were always right regardless of the intention and meaning. Years ago I was accused of racism as I referred to the word "parasitic" being a regulation that would only be activated when a principle was. I had no idea what colour the recipient was. Today his feelings would be the only factor and I would end up having to apologise.

silvertop

Portishead 10 Jan 22 6.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This clean up of football banter is all about the protecting the global brand. I don't particularly enjoy seeing grown men act like children, but my worry is where it will all end. You keep moving the goalposts of behaviour and we eventually become robots.

Yup.

I went on one of those mandatory inclusiveness courses. They actually said that the "victims" of comments were always right regardless of the intention and meaning.

Years ago I was accused of racism as I referred to the word "parasitic" being a regulation that would only be activated when a principle was. I had no idea what colour the recipient was. Today his feelings would be the only factor and I would end up having to apologise.

silvertop Portishead 10 Jan 22 6.16pm
Originally posted by OldFella Haven't you got your own website to pollute and argue with people on? You got schooled on the pitch, your fans showed your club up again off the pitch. Move on mate. Not how we treat guest fans?

silvertop

Portishead 10 Jan 22 6.16pm

Originally posted by OldFella

Haven't you got your own website to pollute and argue with people on? You got schooled on the pitch, your fans showed your club up again off the pitch. Move on mate.

Not how we treat guest fans?

dynamicdick Dormansland 10 Jan 22 6.35pm
Agree...... couldn’t see a reply button to the specific ‘Chelsea rent boy’ comment but having seen Connors girlfriend who could grace any catwalk perhaps they should have done their homework first!! Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 10 Jan 22 6.35pm

Agree...... couldn’t see a reply button to the specific ‘Chelsea rent boy’ comment but having seen Connors girlfriend who could grace any catwalk perhaps they should have done their homework first!!

Bring back Brolin

Swindy Bromley 10 Jan 22 6.51pm
'Wippa', 'we have black fans' Well they must be deaf ones !! - why would you want to spend your time following your horrible, little, racist club ? Also, booing not taking the knee doesn't make someone racist, genius ! - well if you don't like it, ignore it. The 'Kick it out campaign' should tell you where to go !

Swindy

Bromley 10 Jan 22 6.51pm

'Wippa', 'we have black fans'
Well they must be deaf ones !! - why would you want to spend your time following your horrible, little, racist club ?
Also, booing not taking the knee doesn't make someone racist, genius ! - well if you don't like it, ignore it.
The 'Kick it out campaign' should tell you where to go !

Painter Croydon 10 Jan 22 7.03pm
Originally posted by dynamicdick Agree...... couldn’t see a reply button to the specific ‘Chelsea rent boy’ comment but having seen Connors girlfriend who could grace any catwalk perhaps they should have done their homework first!! That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season. How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual.

Painter

Croydon 10 Jan 22 7.03pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season.

How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual.

baldeagle73 Leamington spa 10 Jan 22 8.07pm
I didn’t find any of the chanting offensive in the slightest it’s like a drunk grandad at a family get together that’s millwall for you walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

baldeagle73

Leamington spa 10 Jan 22 8.07pm

I didn’t find any of the chanting offensive in the slightest it’s like a drunk grandad at a family get together that’s millwall for you

walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

dynamicdick Dormansland 10 Jan 22 10.37pm
Originally posted by Painter That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season. How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual. Boris needs your services I think ...... Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 10 Jan 22 10.37pm

Originally posted by Painter

That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season.

How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual.

Boris needs your services I think ......

Bring back Brolin

dreamwaverider London 11 Jan 22 12.56am
Originally posted by dynamicdick Boris needs your services I think ...... Dick, dunno how old you are but I used to go up to games from Dormans Park back in the seventies. Used to pick up Nutty Bill and his gang at Oxted. Those were the days.

dreamwaverider

London 11 Jan 22 12.56am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Boris needs your services I think ......

Dick, dunno how old you are but I used to go up to games from Dormans Park back in the seventies. Used to pick up Nutty Bill and his gang at Oxted. Those were the days.

dreamwaverider London 11 Jan 22 1.09am
Originally posted by palace99 oh come on, the rent boy chant has nothing to do with Conor's loan situation. It's been sung at many young (ish) blond hair players over the years - Le Saux was the first i can remember, but i recall Simon Rodger getting it at a few away grounds. Had gone away for a while but is clearly back. It is clearly offensive. Of the issues on Saturday, i am surprised this has got the most coverage though. The bottle throwing is clearly unacceptable and was even downplayed by the commentators (who were shocking BTW). Booing the taking of the knee is just so pathetic, but that's Millwall for you. Our players are brilliant at ignoring all the abuse and ignoring it. Made easier when you see Connors hot bird and the fact Olise took no prisoners growing up in west london. If they were a pair of wokes Both would be raising the sexist card and faking injury. Top boys the way they dealt with it. Also loved Olise interview with those w***er commentators. Man of few words. Hard core. Edited by dreamwaverider (11 Jan 2022 1.12am)

dreamwaverider

London 11 Jan 22 1.09am

Originally posted by palace99

oh come on, the rent boy chant has nothing to do with Conor's loan situation. It's been sung at many young (ish) blond hair players over the years - Le Saux was the first i can remember, but i recall Simon Rodger getting it at a few away grounds. Had gone away for a while but is clearly back. It is clearly offensive.

Of the issues on Saturday, i am surprised this has got the most coverage though. The bottle throwing is clearly unacceptable and was even downplayed by the commentators (who were shocking BTW). Booing the taking of the knee is just so pathetic, but that's Millwall for you.

Our players are brilliant at ignoring all the abuse and ignoring it. Made easier when you see Connors hot bird and the fact Olise took no prisoners growing up in west london. If they were a pair of wokes Both would be raising the sexist card and faking injury. Top boys the way they dealt with it.
Also loved Olise interview with those w***er commentators. Man of few words. Hard core.

Edited by dreamwaverider (11 Jan 2022 1.12am)

Phil’s Barber Crowborough 11 Jan 22 7.59am
Originally posted by Willo It is obvious what Andersen was thinking but if he looks over his shoulder and sees the run of Afobe then I suspect he tracks the run. I have made my case, clearly others disagree and I really have nothing more to add.HOL would be poorer if it was merely an 'Echo chamber'. I shall ignore the slurs about me not being qualified to make judgements etc etc etc. On a positive note,credit to our team for coming back from a goal down in front of howling rottweillers and scoring two excellent goals to win.Well done! Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 3.57pm) It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of. You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending. Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland.

Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 11 Jan 22 7.59am

Originally posted by Willo

It is obvious what Andersen was thinking but if he looks over his shoulder and sees the run of Afobe then I suspect he tracks the run.

I have made my case, clearly others disagree and I really have nothing more to add.HOL would be poorer if it was merely an 'Echo chamber'.
I shall ignore the slurs about me not being qualified to make judgements etc etc etc.

On a positive note,credit to our team for coming back from a goal down in front of howling rottweillers and scoring two excellent goals to win.Well done!

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2022 3.57pm)

It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of.

You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending.

Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 8.26am
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of. You have not made your case, all you have done is highlight your complete lack of comprehension of that particular situation, which also brings into question anything you might say in the future about positional sense or defending. Never in a million years should Andersen track the run of Afobe, it is laughable and embarrassing to even suggest such a thing. As berlinpalace has said, it was such a straightforward pass to Andersen, he should in no way have compromised his position, as that was the option on for Butland. I stand firmly behind my comments. You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument. Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 8.26am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

It’s a relief that you have nothing more to add as you are clearly commenting on an aspect of the game you have no understanding of.

I stand firmly behind my comments.
You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument.

Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)

Goal Machine The Cronx 11 Jan 22 9.56am
Originally posted by Willo For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot. I accept there will be some,probably many, who will conclude that I am being harsh on Andersen and spouting hogwash. Come on, Willo. You're having a shocker here. You can't seriously be suggesting that a defender should be tracking a runner into his own 6 years box whilst we have possession? I don't need to see any replay's to know that Butland was 100% at fault. As the pundits said, in that scenario, Butland should have hoofed it the moment he realised he was in trouble.

Goal Machine

The Cronx 11 Jan 22 9.56am

Originally posted by Willo

For the reason that Andersen was ball-watching and Afobe got a free run behind him to challenge Butland.Andersen reacted when he saw the danger but it was too late.Had Andersen tracked Afobe he would have been near Butland and possibly in a position to prevent or block a shot.
I accept there will be some,probably many, who will conclude that I am being harsh on Andersen and spouting hogwash.

Come on, Willo. You're having a shocker here. You can't seriously be suggesting that a defender should be tracking a runner into his own 6 years box whilst we have possession?

I don't need to see any replay's to know that Butland was 100% at fault. As the pundits said, in that scenario, Butland should have hoofed it the moment he realised he was in trouble.

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jan 22 10.16am
Originally posted by Willo I stand firmly behind my comments. You have an alternative viewpoint but I have not sought to vilify you or accuse you of a lack of comprehension or lack of knowledge.Nor have I meted out such treatment to others who are on your side of the argument. Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am) Sorry, Willo but I think you are digging a hole for yourself here. When playing out from the back the idea is surely to break through any press. For that to happen, defenders need to place themselves in positions to receive the ball from either the keeper or another defender. Andersen was in the right place. Unfortunately, Butland dithered and lost control of the ball instead of passing out to Andersen (taking the two Millwall forwards out of the game) or hoofing it up field if he felt that pass wasn't fully on. For me it was clearly Butland's error and no blame should be laid at Andersen's door.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 11 Jan 22 10.16am

Originally posted by Willo

Suffice to say I will not respond to any further comments you wish to make.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 8.29am)

Sorry, Willo but I think you are digging a hole for yourself here. When playing out from the back the idea is surely to break through any press. For that to happen, defenders need to place themselves in positions to receive the ball from either the keeper or another defender. Andersen was in the right place. Unfortunately, Butland dithered and lost control of the ball instead of passing out to Andersen (taking the two Millwall forwards out of the game) or hoofing it up field if he felt that pass wasn't fully on. For me it was clearly Butland's error and no blame should be laid at Andersen's door.

dg1937 11 Jan 22 10.27am
I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.

dg1937

11 Jan 22 10.27am

I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 11 Jan 22 10.33am
Originally posted by Spiderman FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment [Link] Just seen this, seems they 'might' be backtracking now . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 11 Jan 22 10.33am

Originally posted by Spiderman

FA cannot decide what language is discriminatory! Ffs unbelievable comment

[Link]

Just seen this, seems they 'might' be backtracking now . . .

[Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

silvertop Portishead 11 Jan 22 11.37am
Originally posted by Painter That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season. How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual. Yes I thought it was quite clever TBF

silvertop

Portishead 11 Jan 22 11.37am

Originally posted by Painter

That particular chant is actually factually correct. Gallagher is on loan to us, therefore we are renting him for a season.

How you wish to interpret the chant is down to the individual.

Yes I thought it was quite clever TBF

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 11.47am
Originally posted by dg1937 I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend. In the final analysis, it was Butland who presented the opportunity to Afobe to score so of course he is culpable, however he was faced with a situation whereby TWO Millwall players closed him down without any of his teammates near him. I totally understand this playing out from the back and beating the press etc etc and the thinking of Andersen based on this philosophy, however Afobe was allowed to run free into the box at a time when another Millwall player was advancing on Butland to close him down.The player who had a free run eventually scored. I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't wish to add any more on this subject. Would far rather channel my comments regarding the splendid victory after going a goal down and the excellent goals we scored. Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 11.49am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jan 22 11.47am

Originally posted by dg1937

I have watched this back several times now, it is 100% down to Butland and to even partly attribute blame to Andersen is laughable IMHO (and I'm generally very supportive of Willo). The pass was simple until Butland took an extra, un-necessary touch. He had a brain fart, it's as simple as that. It happens. I remember Jules' home debut when he tried to dribble round an Everton forward, failed and conceded a penalty - didn't stop him going on to become a legend.

In the final analysis, it was Butland who presented the opportunity to Afobe to score so of course he is culpable, however he was faced with a situation whereby TWO Millwall players closed him down without any of his teammates near him.

I totally understand this playing out from the back and beating the press etc etc and the thinking of Andersen based on this philosophy, however Afobe was allowed to run free into the box at a time when another Millwall player was advancing on Butland to close him down.The player who had a free run eventually scored.

I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't wish to add any more on this subject.
Would far rather channel my comments regarding the splendid victory after going a goal down and the excellent goals we scored.

Edited by Willo (11 Jan 2022 11.49am)

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