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Stirlingsays 18 Jun 17 8.12pm
I reckon it will be Pellegrino, if the Times are right. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Jun 17 8.12pm

I reckon it will be Pellegrino, if the Times are right.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Den1923 18 Jun 17 8.22pm
Originally posted by dp Yes, but why would he have bothered signing if of he thought we were going to get relegated? that not his worry such clauses are standard and protect both parties, we could not afford his wages if we were in the championship, most clubs in our position have such clauses!

Den1923

18 Jun 17 8.22pm

Originally posted by dp

Yes, but why would he have bothered signing if of he thought we were going to get relegated?

that not his worry such clauses are standard and protect both parties, we could not afford his wages if we were in the championship, most clubs in our position have such clauses!

Dan89 Se25 18 Jun 17 8.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I reckon it will be Pellegrino, if the Times are right. readsouthampton.com/2017/06/18/pellegrino-said-prefer-palace-switch/ Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 18 Jun 17 8.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I reckon it will be Pellegrino, if the Times are right.

readsouthampton.com/2017/06/18/pellegrino-said-prefer-palace-switch/

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89 Se25 18 Jun 17 8.27pm
Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received. Sunderland fans update [Link] Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 18 Jun 17 8.27pm

Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received.

Sunderland fans update
[Link]

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Bangell Oxford 18 Jun 17 8.28pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received. Sunderland fans update [Link] Their situation is totally different with the sale.

Bangell

Oxford 18 Jun 17 8.28pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received.

Sunderland fans update
[Link]

Their situation is totally different with the sale.

dp Tunbridge Wells 18 Jun 17 8.29pm
Originally posted by Den1923 that not his worry such clauses are standard and protect both parties, we could not afford his wages if we were in the championship, most clubs in our position have such clauses! Ok. You win. If it makes you happy to throw the towel in already and accept relegation next season then go right ahead. I don't want to get dragged into this rather pointless debate.

Tunbridge Wells 18 Jun 17 8.29pm

Originally posted by Den1923

that not his worry such clauses are standard and protect both parties, we could not afford his wages if we were in the championship, most clubs in our position have such clauses!

Ok. You win. If it makes you happy to throw the towel in already and accept relegation next season then go right ahead. I don't want to get dragged into this rather pointless debate.

Dan89 Se25 18 Jun 17 8.30pm
Originally posted by Bangell Their situation is totally different with the sale. Fair do's. Not asking for names. More that our manager search is at an advanced stage . Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 18 Jun 17 8.30pm

Originally posted by Bangell

Their situation is totally different with the sale.

Fair do's. Not asking for names. More that our manager search is at an advanced stage .

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GladAllOver27 18 Jun 17 8.39pm
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GladAllOver27

18 Jun 17 8.39pm

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GladAllOver27 18 Jun 17 8.41pm
Please can we have a decision next week. It's driving me crazy

GladAllOver27

18 Jun 17 8.41pm

Please can we have a decision next week. It's driving me crazy

Petereagle Brockley 18 Jun 17 8.43pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Fair do's. Not asking for names. More that our manager search is at an advanced stage . I think(hope!) next week will see an announcement. There needs to be a bit of time to get a coaching team together then its preseason training and full on transfer season too, so logic dictates it will be next season (OK, since when did logic have anything to do with football?!)

Petereagle

Brockley 18 Jun 17 8.43pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Fair do's. Not asking for names. More that our manager search is at an advanced stage .

I think(hope!) next week will see an announcement. There needs to be a bit of time to get a coaching team together then its preseason training and full on transfer season too, so logic dictates it will be next season (OK, since when did logic have anything to do with football?!)

Brinscall Eagle Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 18 Jun 17 8.48pm
Gentleman Gentlemen Gentleman our esteemed Chairman Steve Parish has everything under control. He knows exactly who is comming to manage us and take us to the next level of being an established Premier League team. Relax all will be revealed in good time and as in the words of the song " Everything Is Going To Be All Right"

Brinscall Eagle

Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 18 Jun 17 8.48pm

Gentleman Gentlemen Gentleman our esteemed Chairman Steve Parish has everything under control. He knows exactly who is comming to manage us and take us to the next level of being an established Premier League team.
Relax all will be revealed in good time and as in the words of the song " Everything Is Going To Be All Right"

GladAllOver27 18 Jun 17 8.52pm
Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle Gentleman Gentlemen Gentleman our esteemed Chairman Steve Parish has everything under control. He knows exactly who is comming to manage us and take us to the next level of being an established Premier League team. Relax all will be revealed in good time and as in the words of the song " Everything Is Going To Be All Right" The bob Marley song was sung by Ajax against Man Utd in European final.

GladAllOver27

18 Jun 17 8.52pm

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

The bob Marley song was sung by Ajax against Man Utd in European final.

Dan89 Se25 18 Jun 17 8.54pm
Originally posted by Petereagle I think(hope!) next week will see an announcement. There needs to be a bit of time to get a coaching team together then its preseason training and full on transfer season too, so logic dictates it will be next season (OK, since when did logic have anything to do with football?!) Hope your right petereagle. There's been so much speculation about the manager or this manager. I want to start worrying about signings, rather than a manager. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 18 Jun 17 8.54pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

Hope your right petereagle. There's been so much speculation about the manager or this manager. I want to start worrying about signings, rather than a manager.

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Dan89 Se25 18 Jun 17 8.56pm
If it's f.de.Boer then surely it's agreed in principle. Then final paper work and media duties done when he's back from holiday. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 18 Jun 17 8.56pm

If it's f.de.Boer then surely it's agreed in principle. Then final paper work and media duties done when he's back from holiday.

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OllieMaidstoneEagle Maidstone, Kent 18 Jun 17 9.04pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received. Sunderland fans update [Link] Good old Sunnerlan, keeping the fans informed regarding a new manager. In essence, an update on why they can't give the fans an update! Ollie's Dad,Ash. Red and Blue Army! LONDON BORN PALACE BRED LIVE AND DIE FOR BLUE AND RED Football is not just a game, its a religion

OllieMaidstoneEagle

Maidstone, Kent 18 Jun 17 9.04pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Whilst this is not full of information. Should we be given an update like Sunderland fans received.

Sunderland fans update
[Link]

Good old Sunnerlan, keeping the fans informed regarding a new manager. In essence, an update on why they can't give the fans an update! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

Red and Blue Army!
LONDON BORN PALACE BRED LIVE AND DIE FOR BLUE AND RED
Football is not just a game, its a religion

bexleydave Barnehurst 18 Jun 17 9.08pm
Originally posted by dp I am sure that the definition is correct, I haven't checked, however, there is a big difference between being fraudulent, deceptive or insubstantial. Parish being fraudulent would imply that he is trying to make personal gain out of being dishonest. He is not. Deceptive would imply that he is being dishonest. Which he is not. Insubstantial would mean that he is not being dishonest, but is keeping some information private. Which is exactly what he is doing. The operative word in the definition is "or" which means that the term applies to any one of the three definitions. This, it is quite feasible for Parish to be partaking in "smoke and mirrors" without being deceitful. I have at no time suggested that Parish is anything other than an honest and straightforward man who does not indulge in any sort of subterfuge. I picked someone else up for implying that he was and now I'm being lectured about it as if it's I who suggested it. If you, or anyone else, want to have a discussion about whether Parish indulges in underhand dealings then talk to the person who suggested he was. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 18 Jun 17 9.08pm

Originally posted by dp

I am sure that the definition is correct, I haven't checked, however, there is a big difference between being fraudulent, deceptive or insubstantial.

Parish being fraudulent would imply that he is trying to make personal gain out of being dishonest. He is not.

Deceptive would imply that he is being dishonest. Which he is not.

Insubstantial would mean that he is not being dishonest, but is keeping some information private. Which is exactly what he is doing.

The operative word in the definition is "or" which means that the term applies to any one of the three definitions. This, it is quite feasible for Parish to be partaking in "smoke and mirrors" without being deceitful.

I have at no time suggested that Parish is anything other than an honest and straightforward man who does not indulge in any sort of subterfuge. I picked someone else up for implying that he was and now I'm being lectured about it as if it's I who suggested it. If you, or anyone else, want to have a discussion about whether Parish indulges in underhand dealings then talk to the person who suggested he was.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

BigNasty12 Halifax 18 Jun 17 9.16pm
Originally posted by dp I think you might need to look a bit further back in the thread to see the context. I was explaining why I could say that SP was using smoke and mirrors without accusing him of being deceitful. I know this because I was referring to The English language. That said, you should take care not to accuse people of being fraudulent and deceitful on social media. I never accused anyone of anything. I said it's a possibility that SP is unscrupulous not that he was definitely unscrupulous. I don't know. I've NEVER had business dealings with. What I did was ask questions on how you where making your assertions. With that said I could've taken your comments out of context I wholeheartedly agree.

BigNasty12

Halifax 18 Jun 17 9.16pm

Originally posted by dp

I think you might need to look a bit further back in the thread to see the context. I was explaining why I could say that SP was using smoke and mirrors without accusing him of being deceitful. I know this because I was referring to The English language.

That said, you should take care not to accuse people of being fraudulent and deceitful on social media.

I never accused anyone of anything. I said it's a possibility that SP is unscrupulous not that he was definitely unscrupulous. I don't know. I've NEVER had business dealings with. What I did was ask questions on how you where making your assertions.

With that said I could've taken your comments out of context I wholeheartedly agree.

Bullhorn76 Darlington 18 Jun 17 9.16pm
Someone must of put a couple of quid on Patrick vieira for next soton boss he's now favourite on skybet at 11/8

Bullhorn76

Darlington 18 Jun 17 9.16pm

Someone must of put a couple of quid on Patrick vieira for next soton boss he's now favourite on skybet at 11/8

chateauferret 18 Jun 17 9.17pm
To my mind "smoke and mirrors" does't necessarily imply subterfuge, it implies the use of illusion or of hiding something, but hiding things that are not public knowledge is perfectly good commercial practice; and after all, he that hath a secret to keep must keep it a secret that he hath a secret to keep. ============ The Ferret ============

chateauferret

18 Jun 17 9.17pm

To my mind "smoke and mirrors" does't necessarily imply subterfuge, it implies the use of illusion or of hiding something, but hiding things that are not public knowledge is perfectly good commercial practice; and after all, he that hath a secret to keep must keep it a secret that he hath a secret to keep.

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The Ferret
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GladAllOver27 18 Jun 17 9.25pm
Originally posted by Bullhorn76 Someone must of put a couple of quid on Patrick vieira for next soton boss he's now favourite on skybet at 11/8 Is de Boer palace next manager bookies favourite because Southampton preferred choice is pellergino

GladAllOver27

18 Jun 17 9.25pm

Originally posted by Bullhorn76

Someone must of put a couple of quid on Patrick vieira for next soton boss he's now favourite on skybet at 11/8

Is de Boer palace next manager bookies favourite because Southampton preferred choice is pellergino

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