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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
If we had a snap election that in itself would be a bit like another referendum, but the labour party has fallen apart and only 7 people vote libdem so the result is a foregone conclusion anyway lol You'd think so, but look how the referendum went.
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
I actually think it'd be the same result. Most people accept that we've had the vote and so are now set on this path. I've spoken to several leave voters who are as worried as remainers about things now but time will tell, it might work out. There's a plus side to everything, if as a nation we messed up due to being misled over claims by either side, then that's something that we get to live with and think about. In my experience how people feel about things now depends on how much the economy is at the forefront of their mind, the high numbers of immigrants coming in, or just a general dislike of difference and foreigners. People in the first two categories, most people, are definitely concerned to varying degrees because there are big unknowns on both counts, but if it works out those worries may be misplaced. The 'general dislike' people who are all about getting pissed off when they hear a foreign accent or try to get out of ever associating with foreigners or people that 'look foreign' don't care of course, because to them it's all about keeping things 'familiar'. There aren't that many people like that really though thankfully. Edited by blackpalacefan (30 Jun 2016 10.17pm) I would bet good money the turnout would go up. Not actually sure what the outcome would be but my point is referenda are populist and therefore relatively fickle.
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
If the deal is EEA with some freedom of movement changes which is something of a best case scenario, we'll pay almost exactly what we do now anyway so they won't need to pick up on anything. Edited by blackpalacefan (30 Jun 2016 9.26pm)
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
I was laughed off this thread when I stated there would be a massive recession, and many people will lose their homes.
The last sentence.
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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I would bet good money the turnout would go up. Not actually sure what the outcome would be but my point is referenda are populist and therefore relatively fickle. The turnout would probably be increased by all the remainers that didn't turn up for the original Referendum(I know a few), the ones that took it as a given that Remain would win so didn't bother voting.
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
If we had a snap election that in itself would be a bit like another referendum, but the labour party has fallen apart and only 7 people vote libdem so the result is a foregone conclusion anyway lol Labour would lose a chunk of votes to Ukip but it would largely depend on what plans they had for EU negotiations. The tories may actually lose some seats to Ukip and Remainer Lib-dems. TBH, it's all up in the air, as it's difficult to gauge the public's reaction to the complete shambles that's followed the referendum. Edited by DaiShwmae (01 Jul 2016 8.50am)
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
That was me in Alien v The Muppets
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Originally posted by thechaddyboy
If May gets the vote I can see the 'Leave' result being shelved on the basis it's unworkable. I think she'll kick the can a long way down the road. She's already said she will not trigger article 50 this year. So we'll get into next year and negotiations (formal or informal) will continue. And we'll get to the stage where we agree an EEA model allowing free movement of goods, services, capital, and people plus a slightly reduced contribution. Then finally we'll leave and people will barely notice the difference. Businesses will be materially unaffected. And the only people "worse off" will be the electorate who will have to deal with all of the rules and regulations and freedoms of the EU, but with none of the say at the negotiating table.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think she'll kick the can a long way down the road. She's already said she will not trigger article 50 this year. So we'll get into next year and negotiations (formal or informal) will continue. And we'll get to the stage where we agree an EEA model allowing free movement of goods, services, capital, and people plus a slightly reduced contribution. Then finally we'll leave and people will barely notice the difference. Businesses will be materially unaffected. And the only people "worse off" will be the electorate who will have to deal with all of the rules and regulations and freedoms of the EU, but with none of the say at the negotiating table. Democracy is for poofs, it would seem.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think she'll kick the can a long way down the road. She's already said she will not trigger article 50 this year. So we'll get into next year and negotiations (formal or informal) will continue. And we'll get to the stage where we agree an EEA model allowing free movement of goods, services, capital, and people plus a slightly reduced contribution. Then finally we'll leave and people will barely notice the difference. Businesses will be materially unaffected. And the only people "worse off" will be the electorate who will have to deal with all of the rules and regulations and freedoms of the EU, but with none of the say at the negotiating table. Here's where we are.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think she'll kick the can a long way down the road. She's already said she will not trigger article 50 this year. So we'll get into next year and negotiations (formal or informal) will continue. And we'll get to the stage where we agree an EEA model allowing free movement of goods, services, capital, and people plus a slightly reduced contribution. Then finally we'll leave and people will barely notice the difference. Businesses will be materially unaffected. And the only people "worse off" will be the electorate who will have to deal with all of the rules and regulations and freedoms of the EU, but with none of the say at the negotiating table. You really think the economy can live with that level of uncertainty for so long? Mind you, the alternative is just as bad I suppose. Article 50 and then 2 years minimum of trying to work out how to adjust. Batten down the hatches, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Especially for those entering the labour market - or becoming pensioners - in the next couple of years. And that is where I came in to this discussion.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Democracy is for poofs, it would seem. Is it "poofs" or "pooves" the plural?
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Is it "poofs" or "pooves" the plural? Interesting point you raise there as 'poove' can also be used as a singular form. I'm guessing there's no right answer. It's sure to be something that'll be hotly debated in the years to come.
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Originally posted by JohnyBoy
Here's where we are. Re- the markets, other than the usual 'panic', the result of the referendum hasn't changed a thing. A huge downturn is due regardless, but 'Brexit' will no doubt be blamed by many.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Is it "poofs" or "pooves" the plural? The prooves are in the puddings
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Originally posted by -TUX-
Re- the markets, other than the usual 'panic', the result of the referendum hasn't changed a thing. A huge downturn is due regardless, but 'Brexit' will no doubt be blamed by many.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Democracy is for poofs, it would seem. Well that would still represent democracy. No one officially voted on the model for Brexit. And the majority of our democratically elected representatives support Remain and/or an EEA model. So they wouldn't strictly be thwarting our democracy, they'd just be subverting it in a way they knew wasn't what was intended by the voting public.... .... the lying deceitful scumbags. Edited by OknotOK (01 Jul 2016 12.21pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The prooves are in the puddings I don't want to sound like one of them homophobes or nuffink but I aint having any more pudding if it's made by pooves or prooves. Get back to Russia.
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