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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 8.36am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I've deleted the more stupid parts from your post leaving the only sensible part to comment on. There seems to be an idea amongst many that the longer SP takes over finding a new manager the more likely it is that he will land the right one but if one thinks about it logically that isn't necessarily the case and he is just as likely to end up with the wrong one as if he made his mind up quickly In terms of appointing a manager, a number of factors come into play which can lead to a protracted selection process, not just the fact that a Chairman etc cannot make his mind up as to whom he actually wants.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 8.36am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've deleted the more stupid parts from your post leaving the only sensible part to comment on.

There seems to be an idea amongst many that the longer SP takes over finding a new manager the more likely it is that he will land the right one but if one thinks about it logically that isn't necessarily the case and he is just as likely to end up with the wrong one as if he made his mind up quickly

In terms of appointing a manager, a number of factors come into play which can lead to a protracted selection process, not just the fact that a Chairman etc cannot make his mind up as to whom he actually wants.

Petereagle Brockley 19 Jun 17 8.50am
Originally posted by Willo In terms of appointing a manager, a number of factors come into play which can lead to a protracted selection process, not just the fact that a Chairman etc cannot make his mind up as to whom he actually wants. [Link] Useful piece on FdB coaching style. Doesnt look a particularly easy fit with Palace, but had a great start to his coaching career. Right now, any of the 3 most touted coaches would do: Pellegrino, FdB, Dyche.

Petereagle

Brockley 19 Jun 17 8.50am

Originally posted by Willo

[Link]

Useful piece on FdB coaching style. Doesnt look a particularly easy fit with Palace, but had a great start to his coaching career. Right now, any of the 3 most touted coaches would do: Pellegrino, FdB, Dyche.

Eltham Eagle 19 Jun 17 8.54am
Are we now putting ourselves in a difficult position with perspective managers? If we have conducted initial interviews but still not made a choice the candidates may walk away. I have gone for job interviews which are followed by a clear dragging of feet by the employer because they aren't quite sure/think someone else better may come along/I'm second choice, and in the interim period I get myself a job with an organisation (read Southampton for this example) that made their choice swiftly and committed to me being the man for the job. I know we need to get it right, but I am genuinely concerned that we may run out of options. Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

Eltham Eagle

19 Jun 17 8.54am

Are we now putting ourselves in a difficult position with perspective managers?

If we have conducted initial interviews but still not made a choice the candidates may walk away. I have gone for job interviews which are followed by a clear dragging of feet by the employer because they aren't quite sure/think someone else better may come along/I'm second choice, and in the interim period I get myself a job with an organisation (read Southampton for this example) that made their choice swiftly and committed to me being the man for the job.

I know we need to get it right, but I am genuinely concerned that we may run out of options.

Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

moose888 Perth 19 Jun 17 9.15am
Well said Eltham Eagle, I think you have summed up the situation and what most fans are thinking perfectly.

moose888

Perth 19 Jun 17 9.15am

Well said Eltham Eagle, I think you have summed up the situation and what most fans are thinking perfectly.

balfmalark 19 Jun 17 9.22am
Originally posted by Petereagle [Link] Useful piece on FdB coaching style. Doesnt look a particularly easy fit with Palace, but had a great start to his coaching career. Right now, any of the 3 most touted coaches would do: Pellegrino, FdB, Dyche. Looks promising for me. the use of FBs going forward and CDM dropping back to distribute play. Sounds a lot like what Sam had set up Only thing that worries me is the high intensity press when we dont have the ball, hopefully the coaching team can get our fitness levels up so we could see out the season. But teams that play like this tend to wither towards the end, particularly if they lack depth, which we do

balfmalark

19 Jun 17 9.22am

Originally posted by Petereagle

[Link]

Looks promising for me. the use of FBs going forward and CDM dropping back to distribute play. Sounds a lot like what Sam had set up

Only thing that worries me is the high intensity press when we dont have the ball, hopefully the coaching team can get our fitness levels up so we could see out the season. But teams that play like this tend to wither towards the end, particularly if they lack depth, which we do

sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 19 Jun 17 9.22am
If the press stories are correct and it's a three horse race between De Boer, Pellegrino and Dyche I really hope Dyche does not get the job! When I mentioned Puel, a few on here pointed out how poor his run-in at Southampton was, and yet some of those same people are very keen on Dyche who clearly did a better job than Puel. Not! Of the three I'd hope for Pellegrino but as ever, in Parish I trust (though by the end of this week that will be wearing a little thin). Edited by sa_eagle (19 Jun 2017 9.25am) Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

sa_eagle

Just outside Cape Town 19 Jun 17 9.22am

If the press stories are correct and it's a three horse race between De Boer, Pellegrino and Dyche I really hope Dyche does not get the job!

When I mentioned Puel, a few on here pointed out how poor his run-in at Southampton was, and yet some of those same people are very keen on Dyche who clearly did a better job than Puel. Not!

Of the three I'd hope for Pellegrino but as ever, in Parish I trust (though by the end of this week that will be wearing a little thin).

Edited by sa_eagle (19 Jun 2017 9.25am)

Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 9.24am
Originally posted by moose888 Well said Eltham Eagle, I think you have summed up the situation and what most fans are thinking perfectly. Yes but supporters are jumping to conclusions without being privy to all the facts surrounding the selection process.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 9.24am

Originally posted by moose888

Well said Eltham Eagle, I think you have summed up the situation and what most fans are thinking perfectly.

Yes but supporters are jumping to conclusions without being privy to all the facts surrounding the selection process.

Den1923 19 Jun 17 9.33am
Originally posted by Dan89 Nearly a month is long to be concerned about the direction of the club going forward. Well said Dan89!

Den1923

19 Jun 17 9.33am

Originally posted by Dan89

Nearly a month is long to be concerned about the direction of the club going forward.

Well said Dan89!

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jun 17 9.34am
Had a fright this morning. Opened HOL on mobile and on the front page there's a big picture of Pardew. I didn't see the headline at first, just him. Being relieved it's a season review is an understatement. Phew. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 Jun 17 9.34am

Had a fright this morning. Opened HOL on mobile and on the front page there's a big picture of Pardew. I didn't see the headline at first, just him. Being relieved it's a season review is an understatement.

Phew.

COYP

Eltham Eagle 19 Jun 17 9.40am
Originally posted by Willo Yes but supporters are jumping to conclusions without being privy to all the facts surrounding the selection process. Although we don't know the selection process, the dwindling manager pool is fact rather than speculation. The start of the season is also a date set in stone and we are drifting into the period when deals are being done. The longer this goes on the shorter period we'll be active. Unfortunately it's becoming like groundhog day - another day, another day without a manager (repeat until banging head against wall) Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

Eltham Eagle

19 Jun 17 9.40am

Originally posted by Willo

Yes but supporters are jumping to conclusions without being privy to all the facts surrounding the selection process.

Although we don't know the selection process, the dwindling manager pool is fact rather than speculation.

The start of the season is also a date set in stone and we are drifting into the period when deals are being done. The longer this goes on the shorter period we'll be active.

Unfortunately it's becoming like groundhog day - another day, another day without a manager (repeat until banging head against wall)

Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 9.45am
Originally posted by Eltham Eagle Although we don't know the selection process, the dwindling manager pool is fact rather than speculation. The start of the season is also a date set in stone and we are drifting into the period when deals are being done. The longer this goes on the shorter period we'll be active. Unfortunately it's becoming like groundhog day - another day, another day without a manager (repeat until banging head against wall) Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration. I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal". So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver. Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 9.45am

Originally posted by Eltham Eagle

Although we don't know the selection process, the dwindling manager pool is fact rather than speculation.

The start of the season is also a date set in stone and we are drifting into the period when deals are being done. The longer this goes on the shorter period we'll be active.

Unfortunately it's becoming like groundhog day - another day, another day without a manager (repeat until banging head against wall)

Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration.

I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal".

So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver.

Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am)

Midlands Eagle 19 Jun 17 9.48am
Originally posted by Eltham Eagle Are we now putting ourselves in a difficult position with perspective managers? If we have conducted initial interviews but still not made a choice the candidates may walk away. I have gone for job interviews which are followed by a clear dragging of feet by the employer because they aren't quite sure/think someone else better may come along/I'm second choice, Didn't this happen with Tim Sherwood a few years ago?

Midlands Eagle

19 Jun 17 9.48am

Originally posted by Eltham Eagle

Are we now putting ourselves in a difficult position with perspective managers?

Didn't this happen with Tim Sherwood a few years ago?

balfmalark 19 Jun 17 9.51am
From Ed Maylon under a Happy Birthday message to Matty Lawrence Attachment: Screen Shot 2017-06-19 at 09.50.15.png (186.83Kb)

balfmalark

19 Jun 17 9.51am

From Ed Maylon under a Happy Birthday message to Matty Lawrence

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Dan89 Se25 19 Jun 17 9.53am
Originally posted by balfmalark From Ed Maylon under a Happy Birthday message to Matty Lawrence Personally don't think he's that reliable. Didn't he claim the other week that we down to couple of candidates including galtier and Schmidt . The saga rolls on Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 19 Jun 17 9.53am

Originally posted by balfmalark

From Ed Maylon under a Happy Birthday message to Matty Lawrence

Personally don't think he's that reliable. Didn't he claim the other week that we down to couple of candidates including galtier and Schmidt . The saga rolls on

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

meatpienz brisbane 19 Jun 17 10.01am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Had a fright this morning. Opened HOL on mobile and on the front page there's a big picture of Pardew. I didn't see the headline at first, just him. Being relieved it's a season review is an understatement. Phew. I thought this too, gave me a hell of a fright! I thought nooooooo! Zaha has some green grass in front of him here. Finds Ambrose not a bad effort ooooooooooh! what a goal by Darren Ambrose absolutely stunning strike!!! And, Crystal Palace lead @ Old Trafford.

meatpienz

brisbane 19 Jun 17 10.01am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Phew.

I thought this too, gave me a hell of a fright! I thought nooooooo!

Zaha has some green grass in front of him here. Finds Ambrose
not a bad effort ooooooooooh! what a goal by Darren Ambrose absolutely stunning strike!!! And, Crystal Palace lead @ Old Trafford.

balfmalark 19 Jun 17 10.02am
Originally posted by Dan89 Personally don't think he's that reliable. Didn't he claim the other week that we down to couple of candidates including galtier and Schmidt . The saga rolls on Right you are I do think we'll see something this week. FBD was supposedly waiting until the end of his holiday to make a decision, hopefully hes not on a 3 weeker in Ibiza

balfmalark

19 Jun 17 10.02am

Originally posted by Dan89

Personally don't think he's that reliable. Didn't he claim the other week that we down to couple of candidates including galtier and Schmidt . The saga rolls on

Right you are

I do think we'll see something this week. FBD was supposedly waiting until the end of his holiday to make a decision, hopefully hes not on a 3 weeker in Ibiza

Bullhorn76 Darlington 19 Jun 17 10.06am
Again I don't know how reliable but there's this .....Franz @franz_elphick · 29m @eaamalyon Do you think today is the day, Ed? # Ed Malyon @eaamalyon Replying to @franz_elphick SP going on holiday soon so they want it tied up 9:43 am · 19 Jun 2017

Bullhorn76

Darlington 19 Jun 17 10.06am

Again I don't know how reliable but there's this .....Franz @franz_elphick
·
29m

@eaamalyon Do you think today is *the* day, Ed? #
Ed Malyon @eaamalyon

Replying to @franz_elphick
SP going on holiday soon so they want it tied up
9:43 am · 19 Jun 2017

slubglurge welling 19 Jun 17 10.07am
If it is between FDB and MP then the one that Southampton reject is the one we will get

slubglurge

welling 19 Jun 17 10.07am

If it is between FDB and MP then the one that Southampton reject is the one we will get

balfmalark 19 Jun 17 10.09am
Originally posted by slubglurge If it is between FDB and MP then the one that Southampton reject is the one we will get Two pretty attractive choices, so dont mind this. Would always rather have first pick, but its taken us nearly 4 weeks to get to this point. Maybe its good to have the choice taken away from us?

balfmalark

19 Jun 17 10.09am

Originally posted by slubglurge

If it is between FDB and MP then the one that Southampton reject is the one we will get

Two pretty attractive choices, so dont mind this. Would always rather have first pick, but its taken us nearly 4 weeks to get to this point. Maybe its good to have the choice taken away from us?

Dan89 Se25 19 Jun 17 10.11am
Originally posted by balfmalark Right you are I do think we'll see something this week. FBD was supposedly waiting until the end of his holiday to make a decision, hopefully hes not on a 3 weeker in Ibiza If frank de Boer desperate for the palace job. He'd cut short his holiday, sort out the palace contract and discussion. Then finish his holiday afterwards. I think that parish preferred choice is pellergino. Just a hunch. Pellergino wants to see what's on offer from Southampton. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

Dan89

Se25 19 Jun 17 10.11am

Originally posted by balfmalark

Right you are

I do think we'll see something this week. FBD was supposedly waiting until the end of his holiday to make a decision, hopefully hes not on a 3 weeker in Ibiza

If frank de Boer desperate for the palace job. He'd cut short his holiday, sort out the palace contract and discussion. Then finish his holiday afterwards. I think that parish preferred choice is pellergino. Just a hunch. Pellergino wants to see what's on offer from Southampton.

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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