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 Eltham Eagle  19 Jun 17 10.14am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration. I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal". So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver. Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am) I haven't blamed anyone. I have asked a genuine question and I believe that the time this is taking is detrimental for season preparation. But of course, you be free to blame me for having an opinion that may differ to yours (gasp!). Oh yes, and great that you seem to know that the "pool" was never under consideration. You part of the recruitment process? Enlighten us please and put this thread out of its misery.
Now here's Wright, his first chance to see what he can do, and he's through, it's Wright, ohhhh what an impact by the substitute. And it's Ian Wright who's sent the Palace fans into ecstasy! |
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 19 Jun 17 10.15am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Didn't this happen with Tim Sherwood a few years ago?
Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course. We either do what Watford did and choose a target, go for it, and if all the ducks line up, make an appointment. Or we do what we're doing, which is painstakingly trawl though a sizeable short-list, carry out numerous interviews, keep candidates waiting whilst we ruminate and accept that, in the meantime, some of the targets will go elsewhere or blow us out.
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 19 Jun 17 10.18am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course. We either do what Watford did and choose a target, go for it, and if all the ducks line up, make an appointment. Or we do what we're doing, which is painstakingly trawl though a sizeable short-list, carry out numerous interviews, keep candidates waiting whilst we ruminate and accept that, in the meantime, some of the targets will go elsewhere or blow us out.
Absolutely spot on!
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 19 Jun 17 10.19am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Perhaps one can entertain the notion that there were those in the so called "Pool" who were never under consideration. I can only re-iterate that such selection processes can be very detailed and various factors come into play which can elongate the whole matter.And they can be very frustrating for those who have to "Seal the deal". So please don't engage in any "Blame game" in respect of Steve Parish for not making his mind up, dithering etc etc and all that pilaver. Edited by Willo (19 Jun 2017 9.50am) Who is in charge of the selection process?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Jun 17 10.20am |
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Originally posted by Eltham Eagle
I haven't blamed anyone. I have asked a genuine question and I believe that the time this is taking is detrimental for season preparation. But of course, you be free to blame me for having an opinion that may differ to yours (gasp!). Oh yes, and great that you seem to know that the "pool" was never under consideration. You part of the recruitment process? Enlighten us please and put this thread out of its misery. I was merely asking you to take this into consideration whereas you were using words like "Fact". No I am not part of the "Recruitment process" nor do I get a running commentary on a daily basis about how matters are progressing. It seems that Parish is being criticised for a protracted process - all I am saying is that these matters can take time and various factors come into play which affect the timescale.
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| Midlands Eagle 19 Jun 17 10.26am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Rightly or wrongly, I don't think that these people are used to the selection process that we seem to be wedded to. They expect their record, etc. to be well known to a prospective employing club and, if at the interview an agreement can be reached on the details, they'll be offered the job. They're not used to being told there'll be a letter in the post in due course. We do get odd stories leaking into the media from time to time about the way we conduct our business like Dan Gosling being annoyed as he was left hanging around in a hotel room for 24 hours after a medical with no word whatsoever from the club and the fellow who was annoyed at being asked to pay for his own lunch and even that the team were thinking about going on strike as SP didn't want to pay them their bonuses
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| rawpalace05 Saltdean 19 Jun 17 10.38am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
6 weeks from the start of the season, i.e. July. Read my post again. Regardless, pre season will start whoever is in charge (Keith Millen bridging gaps has never hurt us previously, I'm sure Sammy Lee could do the same IF necessary). Re being in HK with a new face in charge, you mention publicity yet isn't it Parish who's turned us from that dirty little rough diamond of an un fashionable club into a quirky multi cultural and local community representing underdog? He's the marketing man, we should trust him that he knows what he's doing.
1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010. palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| rawpalace05 Saltdean 19 Jun 17 10.42am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I've deleted the more stupid parts from your post leaving the only sensible part to comment on. There seems to be an idea amongst many that the longer SP takes over finding a new manager the more likely it is that he will land the right one but if one thinks about it logically that isn't necessarily the case and he is just as likely to end up with the wrong one as if he made his mind up quickly Stupid parts? You mean deeply satirical slandering of some of the masses on here? So you think making a quicker decision wouldn't come with more risk? Don't ever run a complex business!
1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010. palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 19 Jun 17 10.49am |
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Originally posted by rawpalace05
6 weeks from the start of the season, i.e. July. Read my post again. Regardless, pre season will start whoever is in charge (Keith Millen bridging gaps has never hurt us previously, I'm sure Sammy Lee could do the same IF necessary). Re being in HK with a new face in charge, you mention publicity yet isn't it Parish who's turned us from that dirty little rough diamond of an un fashionable club into a quirky multi cultural and local community representing underdog? He's the marketing man, we should trust him that he knows what he's doing. I find your posts somewhat difficult to make sense of. Pre-season begins in the first week of July, which is where a six week recruitment process will take us. As for the competition in HK, I'm sure that it's a fine an admirable thing, but if we were to fail to make an appointment until early July, we'd have very little preparation time together with all the other things we need to do, including getting on with our transfer business (other clubs have started already).
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
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| Midlands Eagle 19 Jun 17 11.07am |
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Originally posted by rawpalace05
Stupid parts? You mean deeply satirical slandering of some of the masses on here? So you think making a quicker decision wouldn't come with more risk? Don't ever run a complex business! Oddly enough I have run businesses far more complex than a football club which believe it or not is comparatively simple compared to most businesses. Don't confuse the large amounts of money involved with complexity
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jun 17 11.13am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
I find your posts somewhat difficult to make sense of. Pre-season begins in the first week of July, which is where a six week recruitment process will take us. As for the competition in HK, I'm sure that it's a fine an admirable thing, but if we were to fail to make an appointment until early July, we'd have very little preparation time together with all the other things we need to do, including getting on with our transfer business (other clubs have started already). We had this same sh1t last summer. Once Benteke signed the transfer window was rated a big success. Any of us who had wanted us to get a move on and rated the window a 7/10 at best because we were obviously a couple of players short were in the wrong. Then a couple of months in we were not. Get a dof in and cut some of this fecking about which could one day be the start of our downfall.
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chateauferret  19 Jun 17 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Oddly enough I have run businesses far more complex than a football club which believe it or not is comparatively simple compared to most businesses. Don't confuse the large amounts of money involved with complexity When the time came for all good men to come to the aid of the party Parish put his neck on the block. You didn't. I'm pretty sick of hearing people reckoning they could run the club better than Parish can because frankly none of you would last five minutes. It's fine to say he might have done this and not that, even to criticise, because nobody is perfect; but slagging him and claiming that you know more about it than him is just bollocks and if you think running a PL football club in the present environment is easy then you are deluding yourself enormously.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 19 Jun 17 11.30am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
When the time came for all good men to come to the aid of the party Parish put his neck on the block. You didn't. That was 7 years ago, you'd have thought with similar amount of pre-seasons to gain experience, that we wouldn't be fckin about again. It's worth remembering, that a manager will want to gauge the squad, and have time to train his ideas into the squad, and then add to it , all this takes time, which as each week goes by, we are running out of. The start of the seasons has been kind to us fixture wise, and we need to hit the ground running, my worry is that we have learnt nothing from the past and will just meander into another season, without the preparation we need.
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| Midlands Eagle 19 Jun 17 11.31am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
When the time came for all good men to come to the aid of the party Parish put his neck on the block. You didn't. I wondered when the head of the Steve Parish fan club would turn up May I refer you to my post of earlier this morning [Link] where I pointed out that he didn't put his head on the block as his funding was all fully secured.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Jun 17 11.37am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
When the time came for all good men to come to the aid of the party Parish put his neck on the block. You didn't. I'm pretty sick of hearing people reckoning they could run the club better than Parish can because frankly none of you would last five minutes. It's fine to say he might have done this and not that, even to criticise, because nobody is perfect; but slagging him and claiming that you know more about it than him is just bollocks and if you think running a PL football club in the present environment is easy then you are deluding yourself enormously.
Quite simply a dof will make his Jon monumentally easier. Then when we have a manager his job gets even easier. Sorry to state the obvious but it needs saying.
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| chateauferret 19 Jun 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I wondered when the head of the Steve Parish fan club would turn up May I refer you to my post of earlier this morning [Link] where I pointed out that he didn't put his head on the block as his funding was all fully secured. Where exactly did I mention money?
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| big stu milton keynes 19 Jun 17 11.57am |
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skysports reporting deal for manager is imminent...that means 2 more weeks
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| Dan89 Se25 19 Jun 17 11.58am |
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Originally posted by big stu
skysports reporting deal for manager is imminent...that means 2 more weeks Lol - they work with skybet. So I would presume that it's de Boer
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