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npn Crowborough 07 Mar 17 12.49pm
Originally posted by OknotOK I'll check him out. But in essence, I don't think Corbyn has done anything wrong. He has paid all his taxes and attempted to be open and transparent about it. He is then being slated for this. Yes he set himself up as a paragon of virtue hoping that other would look poor in comparison, but he should come out of it looking like a guy who doesn't fully understand a tax form, but is effectively a paragon of virtue on this issue (in terms of tax paid). But that isn't how it is being reported in the media. That does appear to me as a entrenched bias against him. I don't think anyone should have to publish their tax returns so Hammond is fine if he doesn't want to. But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box. He's been a silly @rse! There is no point, and no need, for an MP to publish their private tax returns any more than any other public servant from policemen to teachers. What there should be, in my opinion, is rules on what you can earn outside of your parliamentary salary (i.e. I'd be inclined to not think my MP was doing a particularly good job for me if most of her income was from public speaking, for instance). But that may be better served by other means (time recording to ensure the MPs are doing a decent days workl, for instance, but I know that would be hard given travel for those commuting to Westminster)

npn

Crowborough 07 Mar 17 12.49pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

I'll check him out. But in essence, I don't think Corbyn has done anything wrong. He has paid all his taxes and attempted to be open and transparent about it. He is then being slated for this. Yes he set himself up as a paragon of virtue hoping that other would look poor in comparison, but he should come out of it looking like a guy who doesn't fully understand a tax form, but is effectively a paragon of virtue on this issue (in terms of tax paid).

But that isn't how it is being reported in the media. That does appear to me as a entrenched bias against him.

I don't think anyone should have to publish their tax returns so Hammond is fine if he doesn't want to. But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box.

He's been a silly @rse!
There is no point, and no need, for an MP to publish their private tax returns any more than any other public servant from policemen to teachers.

What there should be, in my opinion, is rules on what you can earn outside of your parliamentary salary (i.e. I'd be inclined to not think my MP was doing a particularly good job for me if most of her income was from public speaking, for instance). But that may be better served by other means (time recording to ensure the MPs are doing a decent days workl, for instance, but I know that would be hard given travel for those commuting to Westminster)

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Mar 17 1.29pm
Originally posted by OknotOK But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box. Which, as far as I know, can have ramifications in terms of tax liability the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 07 Mar 17 1.29pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box.

Which, as far as I know, can have ramifications in terms of tax liability

the dignified don't even enter in the game

OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Mar 17 2.20pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Which, as far as I know, can have ramifications in terms of tax liability Can do depending upon the nature of the income but is unlikely to have done in this instance. Although can't say I am going to bother looking through as I'm not that interested. I'm not going to disagree with npn though that he has at least ended up looking like a silly arse out of it. And I'm not really sure how he's managed it. If he wanted to do this as a stunt to shame others, you would think they would at least have vetted his tax return first. But I think that's just further evidence of the chaotic nature of his administration. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

OknotOK

Cockfosters, London 07 Mar 17 2.20pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Which, as far as I know, can have ramifications in terms of tax liability

Can do depending upon the nature of the income but is unlikely to have done in this instance. Although can't say I am going to bother looking through as I'm not that interested.

I'm not going to disagree with npn though that he has at least ended up looking like a silly arse out of it. And I'm not really sure how he's managed it. If he wanted to do this as a stunt to shame others, you would think they would at least have vetted his tax return first.

But I think that's just further evidence of the chaotic nature of his administration.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Mar 17 3.36pm
Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne [Link] -.-' So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team? the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 07 Mar 17 3.36pm

Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne

[Link]

-.-'

So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team?

the dignified don't even enter in the game

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Mar 17 4.14pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne [Link] -.-' So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team? Could quite well be and he seems to dig himself deeper and deeper in to the sh1t more and more with every passing day. Sad really but helps the cause, as Labour will never have a chance of winning an election with him as leader. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Mar 17 4.14pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne

[Link]

-.-'

So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team?

Could quite well be and he seems to dig himself deeper and deeper in to the sh1t more and more with every passing day. Sad really but helps the cause, as Labour will never have a chance of winning an election with him as leader.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 07 Mar 17 4.48pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne [Link] -.-' So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team? To be fair this is going to have happened in the press Office but doesn't exactly make Labour look on the ball does it

Sedlescombe

Sedlescombe 07 Mar 17 4.48pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Corbyn asking people to petition the Chancellor George Osborne

[Link]

-.-'

So is he completely incompetent or is he being stitched up by his own team?

To be fair this is going to have happened in the press Office but doesn't exactly make Labour look on the ball does it

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Mar 17 9.17pm
Originally posted by OknotOK I'll check him out. But in essence, I don't think Corbyn has done anything wrong. He has paid all his taxes and attempted to be open and transparent about it. He is then being slated for this. Yes he set himself up as a paragon of virtue hoping that other would look poor in comparison, but he should come out of it looking like a guy who doesn't fully understand a tax form, but is effectively a paragon of virtue on this issue (in terms of tax paid). But that isn't how it is being reported in the media. That does appear to me as a entrenched bias against him. I don't think anyone should have to publish their tax returns so Hammond is fine if he doesn't want to. But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box. So, he can't complete the tax form correctly. The one that I (a carpenter), my wife (a gardener), and several thousands (maybe more) others fill in every year. Maybe he should lead the country..... Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 07 Mar 17 9.17pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

I'll check him out. But in essence, I don't think Corbyn has done anything wrong. He has paid all his taxes and attempted to be open and transparent about it. He is then being slated for this. Yes he set himself up as a paragon of virtue hoping that other would look poor in comparison, but he should come out of it looking like a guy who doesn't fully understand a tax form, but is effectively a paragon of virtue on this issue (in terms of tax paid).

But that isn't how it is being reported in the media. That does appear to me as a entrenched bias against him.

I don't think anyone should have to publish their tax returns so Hammond is fine if he doesn't want to. But as far as I can see Corbyn has done little wrong but fill in an amount in the wrong box.

So, he can't complete the tax form correctly. The one that I (a carpenter), my wife (a gardener), and several thousands (maybe more) others fill in every year. Maybe he should lead the country.....

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Mar 17 6.25pm
Stephen Hawking outburst: [Link] We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 08 Mar 17 6.25pm

Stephen Hawking outburst:

[Link]

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

the.universal 08 Mar 17 6.34pm
Corbyn's the Wenger of politics, becoming less popular everyday. He'll get the message eventually, hopefully before the next election. We need a strong opposition. Vive le Roy!

the.universal 08 Mar 17 6.34pm

Corbyn's the Wenger of politics, becoming less popular everyday. He'll get the message eventually, hopefully before the next election.
We need a strong opposition.

Vive le Roy!

davenotamonkey 08 Mar 17 6.53pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Stephen Hawking outburst: [Link] I love the Graun. Long may it's readers be.... well, Graun-readers. Attachment: tmp_16611-IMG_20170308_1851041846822451.jpg (56.02Kb)

davenotamonkey

08 Mar 17 6.53pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Stephen Hawking outburst:

[Link]

I love the Graun. Long may it's readers be.... well, Graun-readers.

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Mar 17 7.02pm
Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 08 Mar 17 7.02pm

Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Mar 17 7.17pm
Every time I see the post count increase on this thread I wonder if Jeremy has done the decent thing. And then I'm glad he hasn't, lol. No more Labour and their party of the people crap for at least another term...probably forever.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Mar 17 7.17pm

Every time I see the post count increase on this thread I wonder if Jeremy has done the decent thing.

And then I'm glad he hasn't, lol.

No more Labour and their party of the people crap for at least another term...probably forever.

hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Mar 17 7.38pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election? Yes, the Prince of Wales. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 08 Mar 17 7.38pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election?

Yes, the Prince of Wales.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

steeleye20 Croydon 09 Mar 17 2.03pm
After yesterday I see a ray of hope for labour or possibly a labour/libdem coalition I would vote for either. Ignoring all our problems in favour of just one thing brexit could be a watershed moment for the tories.

steeleye20

Croydon 09 Mar 17 2.03pm

After yesterday I see a ray of hope for labour or possibly a labour/libdem coalition I would vote for either.

Ignoring all our problems in favour of just one thing brexit could be a watershed moment for the tories.

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 09 Mar 17 2.58pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 After yesterday I see a ray of hope for labour or possibly a labour/libdem coalition I would vote for either. Ignoring all our problems in favour of just one thing brexit could be a watershed moment for the tories. The budget? Not a lot to get excited about for anyone really the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 09 Mar 17 2.58pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

After yesterday I see a ray of hope for labour or possibly a labour/libdem coalition I would vote for either.

Ignoring all our problems in favour of just one thing brexit could be a watershed moment for the tories.

The budget? Not a lot to get excited about for anyone really

the dignified don't even enter in the game

jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Mar 17 5.29pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election? I think at this stage, its the Tories to lose. Ahnd I think that if they can reasonably navigate Brexit and avoid any monumental screw ups or disasters they've got it in the bag - The only question really would be whether enough of the 49% of people who voted stay, could be swung towards a single party. But unless Corbyn can really pull something out of the hat, or there is some kind of Brexit economic disaster / collapse, it'll be a victory if he can even hold onto the seats they have. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 09 Mar 17 5.29pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election?

I think at this stage, its the Tories to lose. Ahnd I think that if they can reasonably navigate Brexit and avoid any monumental screw ups or disasters they've got it in the bag - The only question really would be whether enough of the 49% of people who voted stay, could be swung towards a single party.

But unless Corbyn can really pull something out of the hat, or there is some kind of Brexit economic disaster / collapse, it'll be a victory if he can even hold onto the seats they have.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

serial thriller The Promised Land 10 Mar 17 11.52am
Originally posted by matt_himself Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election? I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s. I reckon the cocktail of climate change's freezing winters, the Tories f***ing up social care and the old having to work in to their 70s will trim down the Tory-voting demographic and pave the way for Corbyn 2020 If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 10 Mar 17 11.52am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Are there any Labour supporters whom believe Jezza can win an election?

I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s.

I reckon the cocktail of climate change's freezing winters, the Tories f***ing up social care and the old having to work in to their 70s will trim down the Tory-voting demographic and pave the way for Corbyn 2020

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Mar 17 12.03pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s. I reckon the cocktail of climate change's freezing winters, the Tories f***ing up social care and the old having to work in to their 70s will trim down the Tory-voting demographic and pave the way for Corbyn 2020 Labour problems are not just about Corbyn. When I see Labour MPs talking they almost all of low calibre and state opinions that defy reason. Their stance on Brexit is frankly laughable.

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Mar 17 12.03pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s.

Labour problems are not just about Corbyn.

When I see Labour MPs talking they almost all of low calibre and state opinions that defy reason.
Their stance on Brexit is frankly laughable.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Mar 17 12.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Labour problems are not just about Corbyn. When I see Labour MPs talking they almost all of low calibre and state opinions that defy reason. Their stance on Brexit is frankly laughable. Examples? Are you saying all of them have the same stance on Brexit? Or are you generalising as per normal.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 Mar 17 12.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Labour problems are not just about Corbyn.

When I see Labour MPs talking they almost all of low calibre and state opinions that defy reason.
Their stance on Brexit is frankly laughable.

Examples?

Are you saying all of them have the same stance on Brexit? Or are you generalising as per normal.

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Mar 17 12.59pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Examples? Are you saying all of them have the same stance on Brexit? Or are you generalising as per normal. I'm just saying what I see. And frankly to keep using the 'generalising' card on a football website is a bit pathetic. What, you think that every observation should supply an intimate knowledge of the mind set of every Labour MP? Behave.

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Mar 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Examples?

Are you saying all of them have the same stance on Brexit? Or are you generalising as per normal.

I'm just saying what I see.

And frankly to keep using the 'generalising' card on a football website is a bit pathetic.

What, you think that every observation should supply an intimate knowledge of the mind set of every Labour MP?

Behave.

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