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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Labour problems are not just about Corbyn. When I see Labour MPs talking they almost all of low calibre and state opinions that defy reason. Agree to an extent although I can't see anyone much on the Tory benches who is of particularly high calibre. The Brexit stance is a big issue though. It is a difficult subject for many of them though. A large number of them are faced with communities and constituents who are overwhelmingly pro-EU. And they don't know how to deal with that. The Tories seem to have it easier. Even the ones who represent overwhelmingly Remain constituencies don't seem to care. Like mine - Theresa Villiers - she was pro-Brexit from the off and even when her voters were massively pro-Remain, she just shrugged it off.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Agree to an extent although I can't see anyone much on the Tory benches who is of particularly high calibre. The Brexit stance is a big issue though. It is a difficult subject for many of them though. A large number of them are faced with communities and constituents who are overwhelmingly pro-EU. And they don't know how to deal with that. The Tories seem to have it easier. Even the ones who represent overwhelmingly Remain constituencies don't seem to care. Like mine - Theresa Villiers - she was pro-Brexit from the off and even when her voters were massively pro-Remain, she just shrugged it off. Well their current strategy seems to be starting every response by saying that they respect the will of the people on Brexit and then going on to support every attempt to subvert it.
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s. I reckon the cocktail of climate change's freezing winters, the Tories f***ing up social care and the old having to work in to their 70s will trim down the Tory-voting demographic and pave the way for Corbyn 2020 You are forgetting that despite Millenials saying they will vote, they are too lazy or immersed in online gaming, listening to s***e like Adele or engaged in activities such as 'daisy chaining', to vote. Therefore, if your 'facts' are correct, which I doubt, then you can knock off 66% of the young vote for Labour purely because they are moaning, Millenial bellends. The Tories are going to cruise home.
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I do. A recent poll came out showing Labour leading among the under 50s but losing in the 50s-65s and losing heavily in the 65+s. I reckon the cocktail of climate change's freezing winters, the Tories f***ing up social care and the old having to work in to their 70s will trim down the Tory-voting demographic and pave the way for Corbyn 2020
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
No don't think so. 18-24s favour Labour by 5 points.
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Ah thanks, similar poll but more recent than the one I linked where the gap was about 2% iirc
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You are forgetting that despite Millenials saying they will vote, they are too lazy or immersed in online gaming, listening to s***e like Adele or engaged in activities such as 'daisy chaining', to vote. Therefore, if your 'facts' are correct, which I doubt, then you can knock off 66% of the young vote for Labour purely because they are moaning, Millenial bellends. The Tories are going to cruise home. Yeah but you gotta remember that by 2020, the average tory/ukip voter will be so old that they probably wont vote either. If you factor out the sizeable proportion of pensioners on luxury cruises, + the inevitable frosty summers we're overdue which will hinder zimmer frame mobility, + the 20% who statistically will forget that its polling day, or think theyre voting for Harold wilson again, or just think they are still living under king knut, and i think labour are on course for a landslide.
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Corbyn "relaxed " about second Scottish referendum completely contrary to Dugdale.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I watched the "Daily Politics Show" on BBC2 yesterday lunchtime.... The story starts at about 7mins30secs in.... Check out the Momentum spokes"person".... Rachel Godfrey Wood..... Rachel or Godfrey? You decide! As per, no insight, just commenting on outward appearences.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Its so nice to be back on Hol and see nothing changes! I'll bet the Union Official was frantically checking the GT forum every day I was away just in case I came back and said something contentious.... LOL Time for another short break I feel, I have my fix for the time being. Don't flatter yourself. Edited by nickgusset (21 Mar 2017 11.52am)
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Yeah but you gotta remember that by 2020, the average tory/ukip voter will be so old that they probably wont vote either. If you factor out the sizeable proportion of pensioners on luxury cruises, + the inevitable frosty summers we're overdue which will hinder zimmer frame mobility, + the 20% who statistically will forget that its polling day, or think theyre voting for Harold wilson again, or just think they are still living under king knut, and i think labour are on course for a landslide. People tend to become more conservative as they age. If your assertion were true, Labour would always win.
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I watched the "Daily Politics Show" on BBC2 yesterday lunchtime.... The story starts at about 7mins30secs in.... Check out the Momentum spokes"person".... Rachel Godfrey Wood..... Rachel or Godfrey? You decide! Godfrey seemed really nervous didn't he, his hands were shaking like a leaf bless him !
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