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chateauferret Flag 19 Jun 17 3.26pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I think that you are confusing respect with worship

No, I just realise he's doing a better job than anyone here could. You seem to think you could do better than him. It'd be interesting (if expensive) to see you try.

Have a look at some of the other clubs around and ask yourself how happy you'd be with some of their owners. Birmingham? Clowntown? Ooh! Ooh! Blackpool? And since Southampton are getting discussed, they might be doing quite well at dealing with their manager issue. But how proud would you be of Palace if we had treated our managers the way they've just treated Puel?

Edited by chateauferret (19 Jun 2017 3.30pm)

 


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davehuggins Flag 19 Jun 17 3.29pm

Talking of so called managers can we possibly get Pardew's picture removed from here. Was feeling so much better and then he appeared again!!!

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 19 Jun 17 3.35pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

I just realise he's doing a better job than anyone here could. You seem to think you could do better than him. All I'm saying is it'd be interesting (if expensive) to see you try.

Have a look at some of the other clubs around and ask yourself how happy you'd be with some of their owners. Birmingham? Clowntown? Ooh! Ooh! Blackpool? And since Southampton are getting discussed, they might be doing quite well at dealing with their manager issue. But how proud would you be of Palace if we had treated our managers the way they've just treated Puel?


I know that you are chief cheerleader of the SP worship society but your responses get dafter and dafter as you seem to be more and more desperate to find holes to pick.

Claiming that I think I could do a better job than SP is just rank stupidity and shows the increasing desperation in your argument.

The next bit of desperation is where you have gone right through the list of football clubs looking for examples of poorly run clubs to throw at me and came up with three out of sixty plus clubs.

Why didn't you cite Arsenal or Liverpool or Everton as examples of poorly run clubs instead of Blackpool and Charlton

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 19 Jun 17 3.57pm

Apparently on the bbs more than one person has heard the new manager will be announced tomorrow with a slim chance of it being announced today.

 

davehuggins Flag 19 Jun 17 3.59pm

Hope you are right Black Eagle, sure there are good reasons but sooner the better for me!!

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 19 Jun 17 4.08pm

Originally posted by black eagle.

Apparently on the bbs more than one person has heard the new manager will be announced tomorrow with a slim chance of it being announced today.

Nice 1

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jun 17 4.09pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

Talking of so called managers can we possibly get Pardew's picture removed from here. Was feeling so much better and then he appeared again!!!

I opened HOL on my mobile turned round in landscape mode which cut out the headline underneath the picture.

Gave me a 2 second panic I can tell you. Not what you want to wake up to on a Monday.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 Jun 2017 4.10pm)

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 19 Jun 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

Hope you are right Black Eagle, sure there are good reasons but sooner the better for me!!

It kind of ties in with De Boer coming back from holiday at the weekend.

Maybe just maybe we'll hear something but hats off to Parish for keeping it so quiet.

 

davehuggins Flag 19 Jun 17 4.13pm

Me to Rudi not good for the health that's for sure!!

 

chateauferret Flag 19 Jun 17 4.13pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Claiming that I think I could do a better job than SP is just rank stupidity and shows the increasing desperation in your argument.

The next bit of desperation is where you have gone right through the list of football clubs looking for examples of poorly run clubs to throw at me and came up with three out of sixty plus clubs.

Why didn't you cite Arsenal or Liverpool or Everton as examples of poorly run clubs instead of Blackpool and Charlton

What I am taking issue with (in case you don't realise it) is this.

"Oddly enough I have run businesses far more complex than a football club which believe it or not is comparatively simple compared to most businesses."

Are you sufficiently self-aware to understand how that statement comes across?

Some football clubs are better run than ours and some are worse run. You can always find better and you can always find worse. Southampton for example obviously have an advantage over us in the current bunfight because they have better infrastructure than us. Your examples come from the upper echelons of the league and they are where they are presumably because they are good at this stuff. Mine come from down below and the same applies. Of 91 other clubs in the football league all but 13 finished up somewhere below us in the rankings and we've now been in the top flight for longer than we ever have been.

Now, I do think Parish would have done better to dump Pardew sooner than he actually did, and I do think it would be good to have better infrastructure and premises and I think this is moving too slowly; and I also think it would be good to be able to spend more in the upcoming transfer window. Parish is not God and there are some turds in the garden, of course.

But, some people have made a tremendous arse of this business and they don't have to do much wrong before their clubs end up in a ghastly mess. There are plenty of other examples. Another one of them, Airdrieonians, is just down the road from me. Clubs that were sitting around about where we are now in the league are now languising in lower divisions. And we have been there and we have come back. We very nearly didn't. "Comparitively simple"? I don't think so.

If you think I'm desparate to prove you wrong then you do have a bit of a problem with self-importance. At the end of the day, if you don't rate Parish, good luck to you.

<willo> NO more from me on this matter. </willo>


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 19 Jun 17 4.24pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That is a rather emotive response rather than an accurate analysis starting off from the point where you claim to be speaking for "most fans"

I think that claiming he draws a large salary for doing a few tasks is actually undermining what he has done for the club since he has been here yes. But you can gloss over that for your arguments sake.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 19 Jun 17 4.29pm

Originally posted by Pierre

So what if they did, that's business.
CPFC2010 thought a clean start post administration was better and who's to say it hasn't been!
However under your paragraph "Respect" SP continues to achieve a hell of a lot more than just sorting out players contracts and picking a manager every couple of years as you have stated!

This is exactly the point I was trying to make when I say he was being disrespectful to the job SP is doing for the club. It's pointless even trying to converse with him as he point blank forgets something he said in writing just a few posts above to suit his argument against SP.

 


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alcraig Flag Ashford 19 Jun 17 4.32pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Manager Thoughts' by kenbarr

De Boer and Pellegrino interviewed and both impress. Dyche not yet interviewed as he has been on holiday. Will be approached this week and depending on how he performs expect a decision by end of the week. Three good options. De Boer my least favourite. Had great set up at Ajax in poor league in Holland so of course he would look good. Then blew it at Inter Milan where he had good squad but could not handle pressure of desire and demand from club and fans alike. Probably de Boer is a better coach than manager. Pellegrino did wonders with Alves in La Liga where it is dominated by 2-3 clubs. Would be a possible gamble but so was Pochettino and look how he did at Southampton and Spurs. Dyche has done wonders at Burnley and was doing well at Watford and removed due to foreign owners. Has knowledge of the premier league but can he take his work to the next level that we would want at Palace. I would prefer Pellegrino. Knows Sammy Lee and prefers a pressing and counter attacking game which suits our squad. Also has wide range of premier and euro football knowledge. SO what are your thoughts out there?

 

Part Time James Flag 19 Jun 17 4.34pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Manager Thoughts' by kenbarr

Nice knowing you!

 




Dan89 Flag Se25 19 Jun 17 4.50pm

According to Ed maylon unsure how reliable but he seems to think the odds are wrong and dyche and pellergino both joint favourites

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 19 Jun 17 4.51pm

Just tried to chuck a tenner on Pellegrino with Ladbrokes but they have suspended betting.....could mean something *clutches staws*.

Edited by lefty27 (19 Jun 2017 4.53pm)

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jun 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by Dan89

According to Ed maylon unsure how reliable but he seems to think the odds are wrong and dyche and pellergino both joint favourites

This makes sense. They both fit palace on the pitch in some way. Franko does not. He suits Southampton and it would be the strangest thing for us both to pick the wrong man. Each other's man.

Money coming in on Pellegrino. Shortened quite a bit. Frankly still fav, for now.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jun 17 4.53pm

Originally posted by lefty27

Just tried to chuck a tenner on Pellegrino with Ladbrokes but they have suspended betting.....could mean something *clutches staws*.

Edited by lefty27 (19 Jun 2017 4.53pm)

Their odds were too long. Too many bets and exposure v exchange.

 


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coulsdoneagle Flag London 19 Jun 17 5.02pm

No no no no to Dyche. Would be incredibly dissatisfied with taking 4 weeks to appoint the easy and boring option.

 

Den1923 Flag 19 Jun 17 5.07pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

No no no no to Dyche. Would be incredibly dissatisfied with taking 4 weeks to appoint the easy and boring option.

fully agree and add easiest option for SP to control!

 

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