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 DanH  SW2 17 Nov 20 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
What is 'Whiteness'? I have no idea what people are referring to? Talking about 'whiteness' being under attack. What is 'whiteness' and how is it under attack? I am White, do I have 'whiteness' and is is my 'whiteness' under attack? Serious question I have no idea what is being referred to? Exactly. It isn’t even a thing. Yet people seem to think they and everything they stand for are under attack because people are highlighting the plight of people that might not look exactly like them.
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| Matov 17 Nov 20 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Exactly. It isn’t even a thing. Yet people seem to think they and everything they stand for are under attack because people are highlighting the plight of people that might not look exactly like them. Whiteness not a thing?
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jeeagles  17 Nov 20 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Anyone seeing it as an ‘attack on whiteness’ is so utterly insecure in their own skin that almost all you can do is feel pity for them having to live their lives like that. You might pity them Dan and you've identified they are insecure, but you're making no effort to understand why they harbour those views. They just get branded as stupid, racist or both (which may be true or partly true). Although, in the vast majority of cases I simply don't believe that's the root cause of most peoples annoyance.
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| DanH SW2 17 Nov 20 2.13pm |
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OK, more accurately it is something not easily defined and probably means something different to each different person.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 20 2.15pm |
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Lewis Hamilton named most influential black person in UK 'A disaster for the HOL - Barrack Obama'
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Nov 20 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I do not use Twitter so have no idea as to what comments have been made. I do not see it as an attack on my “whiteness” but am firmly in the camp that it should be proportionate and adverts/period dramas are taking it too far. ERM. Sorry Spider you can't use that term I'm afraid. Add this to the litany of bulls*** that's already out.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Nov 20 2.21pm |
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Right OK, so is it just a reference to 'White culture'. If so, then I get it, I just think using the word 'whiteness' is a travesty of language. If not, I'm not gonna bother investigating any further. Can see how it might be thrown around in the USA to an extent, different set of circumstances for the people there, don't see how it applies to the UK though. The UK is a majority white country and we can all argue about the origins of man but it has been so for however many centuries or further. The whole point of a societal culture is that it evolves by serving the needs of the majority.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Nov 20 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Well said. When I worked in pakistan the locally engaged staff, who were predominantly Muslim, loved the way we celebrated Christmas and always participated ( as far as permissible) in the festivities, we likewise at Eid Edited by Spiderman (17 Nov 2020 12.35pm) You were obviously with some friendly people but you will know that pakistan itself isn't as liberal. pakistan is practically an Islamic and ethnic ethnostate. Christianity, along with all other religions other than Islam and those of no faith are subject to persecution both in the law and from Islamists. Have a look at what the violence and what goes on against Christians in pakistan. In law a non Muslim can't be a federal judge, can't be president, can't be prime minister. Non Muslims can be subject to forced conversions. (pasted from Wikipedia)
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| Matov 17 Nov 20 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Right OK, so is it just a reference to 'White culture'. If so, then I get it, I just think using the word 'whiteness' is a travesty of language. If not, I'm not gonna bother investigating any further. You should do. It is smashing. For example, apparently 'Whiteness' means putting an over-emphasis on the importance of punctuality. That turning up when you say you will turn up, or expecting others, especially people of colour, to do likewise is a white cultural expectation.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Nov 20 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Anyone seeing it as an ‘attack on whiteness’ is so utterly insecure in their own skin that almost all you can do is feel pity for them having to live their lives like that. ? You do realise 'Whiteness' isn't being described as positive in these programs and academic courses. I don't really have an issue with it as such. It's good to know who hates or dislikes you. I understand that race is a large part of how the real world works outside of the liberal mindset and legal system. What I have an issue with are the double standards from people who profess to hate racism. The truth is that they hate anybody to doesn't agree with their definition of racism, because it's not colour blind....it's their take on it.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Nov 20 2.34pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Lewis Hamilton named most influential black person in UK 'A disaster for the HOL - Barrack Obama'
In the UK? Here's presuming he pays tax in the UK like everyone else has to. I would have thought 'most influential black person in [insert tax haven]' would be more apt.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Nov 20 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
You should do. It is smashing. For example, apparently 'Whiteness' means putting an over-emphasis on the importance of punctuality. That turning up when you say you will turn up, or expecting others, especially people of colour, to do likewise is a white cultural expectation. I thought that was just being polite, efficient and/or showing respect for oneself and others?
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