Led Zepplin and David Bowie were others all a matter of public record and never refuted by the accused.

Actually with all the #MeToo it's a wonder that most pop stars of the sixties and seventies aren't in jail.

One more point

There's a massive difference between girls throwing themselves at celebs and what Brand has done.

I watched the TV show and there was a section where a recorded chat with Saville was played where Brand offers to send his young assistant to him. Very uncomfortable. He was forcing himself on young girls.

Perverts and crooks are in every walk of life, I would think. What is gripping my bits at the moment, is that all investigations seem to be conducted by the media (BBC and C4) , all in the public eye, very much by the organisations that facilitated allegations and similar activities.

IF any illegal stuff happened, that is for the CPS and police to decide.

I disengage, I turn the page.

One question.

Did you watch the TV program?

There were apologises from him on text and voice messaging for his behaviour to the ladies concerned.

Did you read my previous post where he offered his young assistant to Jimmy Saville? And said she will do anything I say or lose her job!!

The man is scum.

As I said previously. Going to the Police does not always result in the correct action being taken.

Jimmy Saville for one. Decades of abuse.

And they were not all consensual. He attacked his assistant. That was one of the cases where he apologised.

They should be encouraging employees to come forward and talk about their experiences in private, rather than allowing for this trial by media.

There are countless, and I mean countless, stories of this kind of behaviour from so many current TV personalities but no one ever wants to speak up because the support culture isn't there.

Yep, they get away with it because there's no accountability ...It's hard because I don't support censorship but I'm very willing to point at the hypocrisy and ultra low standards....No, once it's shown that they were wrong the tune changes and they just pretend like they never played a part in it.....Most people are just too disconnected to bother or care.

However, anyone with a memory better than a goldfish remembers how the press were:

Can't remember that politician who was accused of raping that fruitcake, who was lying all along....died not long after. (though I'm aware that this stuff does happen...but we don't hear about it)
Cliff Richard
Kevin Spacey
Johnny Depp
Countless others.

Gutter press is an understatement.....and it's even the broadsheets in today's environment.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If he's responded to it, they will be all over him like a rash. If, he does like i do, ignore & throw away. Sometime ago when i came back to the UK, there were 14 such letters, all got binned. I stream stuff now, thanks to the grandkids to show me how.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

So she claims.

I have yet to see something that convinces me of anything other than the fact that Brand used his position to shag as many women as possible and was proud of it. He has never been afraid to express what some would call sexist attitudes, and perhaps did things that in retrospect were unwise given his celebrity status and potential vulnerability to exactly these sorts of accusations.

When the CPS decides that he can be prosecuted for something specific, and he is found guilty in a fair trial, we can call him a criminal.
Until then, he is innocent in the eyes of the law.

How this affects his career going forward is another story.

Why would he apologise if the claims were untrue?

I have yet to hear anything that convinces me that the claims are untrue. That he was proud of his behaviour is besides the point. The point is whether it was always consensual. Not sometimes or even most times but always.

Whether enough evidence can be presented to clear the relatively high bar needed for a criminal conviction, especially given the time elapsed, is yet to be determined. The CPS could easily refuse to allow a prosecution.

That though doesn’t mean Brand would succeed with a deformation suit.

Which would leave us all to reach our own conclusions. Which will be as divided as they always are here.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I think if this is all made up and one big ruse, he will clean up.

The usuals on here just don’t want to believe that his outing has nothing to do with his (admittedly sometimes laudable) anti-establishment stance because it doesn’t allow the conditions to bolster their political and ideological beliefs.

He’s always been an oddball. It’s not that big a stretch.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.