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 OknotOK  Cockfosters, London 24 Mar 17 2.45pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Yes they do. I got it almost spot on which children from my son's year would pass and which wouldn't. The most academic children pass and go there. End of No I'm sorry they don't. Even if it happened in the one isolated case in your child's school that doesn't mean it happens everywhere. The numbers and evidence are easy enough to find if you are really interested. And that's aside from the question of whether the 11+ exams actually identify the best academic potential anyway.
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 24 Mar 17 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
No I'm sorry they don't. Even if it happened in the one isolated case in your child's school that doesn't mean it happens everywhere. The numbers and evidence are easy enough to find if you are really interested. And that's aside from the question of whether the 11+ exams actually identify the best academic potential anyway. It wasn't in one isolated case. That wasn't what I said. The 11 plus exam consists of maths, English, verbal and non verbal reasoning and is the same system used by 3 of my nearest non selective schools for banding the pupils they have once they have a place . So they must all feel it gives a true entough representation of someone's overall ability if they all use it. I take on board the fact you personally believe from information you have read that it may not be the best way of measuring a childs academic capability. What do you propose is used instead.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 24 Mar 17 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
It wasn't in one isolated case. That wasn't what I said. The 11 plus exam consists of maths, English, verbal and non verbal reasoning and is the same system used by 3 of my nearest non selective schools for banding the pupils they have once they have a place . So they must all feel it gives a true entough representation of someone's overall ability if they all use it. I take on board the fact you personally believe from information you have read that it may not be the best way of measuring a childs academic capability. What do you propose is used instead. I genuinely don't know what is a better system for selection, which is why if there isn't one out there then I'd rather people were devoting valuable limited resources to improving current schools. There are educational experts who are looking into it. And if they find a better way of measuring then that would be terrific because I do think that lumping everyone together regardless of ability can be counter-productive.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Mar 17 7.31pm |
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 24 Mar 17 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Link] The only party to field candidates. Not quite a level playing field. You also had a candidate disqualified in Blackburn
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| Hoof Hearted 25 Mar 17 9.59am | |
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Originally posted by npn
For what it's worth, I looked into sending my girls to grammar, and even got hold of a few old papers to see if they were up to it. The problem is that it follows processes not on every syllabus (being in Sussex, with no grammars, my kids aren't taught the skills necessary to pass, which means either tuition of comprehensives). Also, the fact that they would be cross-border students (in Kent) takes the pass mark way higher. In the end I decided I would just be setting them up to fail, and decided against it. I don't mind the concept of streaming brighter kids to more academic schools (though I'm uneasy about rejecting kids at such an early age), but it's got to be all or nothing, not that old classic "a postcode lottery" Read what Michaela put... she appears to have the most recent experience of this dilemma. Streaming has always been a factor... my secondary modern school (65 to 72) streamed A1. A2, B1 to B2 where A1 were those likely to achieve GCE O Levels, A2 CSE's, B1 some manual apprenticeship and B2 were the rabble that played truant, had fights etc. If you are not streamed by schools like grammar v comprehensive, you will be streamed anyway?
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Mar 17 11.34am |
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Another resounding success for Donald, sorry I mean Jezza [Tweet Link]
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| Nest 27 Mar 17 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Another resounding success for Donald, sorry I mean Jezza and some more here [Tweet Link]
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Mar 17 12.27pm |
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Still going well Nick [Tweet Link]
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| Hoof Hearted 29 Mar 17 12.49pm | |
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This clip always makes him popular with me!
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| Nest 30 Mar 17 7.35pm |
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[Tweet Link]
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 30 Mar 17 10.12pm |
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Much in the news about Labours poor response to media queries [Tweet Link]
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 30 Mar 17 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by Nest
[Tweet Link]What about all the tweets in between those copy and pasted together? About David Davis, the EU, Hollande etc? Not quite as implied from the picture or didn't you check before posting?
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 30 Mar 17 10.31pm |
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Even 2 Jags has had enough
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 Hrolf The Ganger 31 Mar 17 11.08am |
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Someone should put this thread out of it's mystery. Maybe it can be revived at a future date with the new title 'Jeremy Corbyn Resigns'.
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| Hoof Hearted 31 Mar 17 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Someone should put this thread out of it's mystery. Maybe it can be revived at a future date with the new title 'Jeremy Corbyn Resigns'. Yeah.. it's become like "The Weakest Link".... it's had it's day. How many times have we told them Corbyn is a loser? They aint listening!
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| Hrolf The Ganger 31 Mar 17 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Yeah.. it's become like "The Weakest Link".... it's had it's day. How many times have we told them Corbyn is a loser? They aint listening! Nothing new there.
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