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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 01 Apr 14 2.23pm
I saw the game on telly and wondered who the ref was who could not have seen that clear penalty. Should have known. Perhaps, like so many 'good' refs, he was evening things up
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 01 Apr 14 2.23pm

I saw the game on telly and wondered who the ref was who could not have seen that clear penalty. Should have known. Perhaps, like so many 'good' refs, he was evening things up

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Plumpton eagle East Sussex 01 Apr 14 3.03pm
I think that he has got caught up with his own reputation. I suspect that he wants to be the ref that gives out fewest reds, awards fewest contentious penalties and does not upset the managers of the very top teams. He may then believe that makes him the best referee. This is only my opinion. I do not have great insight or psychology qualifications. However, I did see him fail to award a clear penalty that he had a perfect view of from very close by. There have been other similar incidents this season. I don't think that he is a cheat or deliberately sets out to engineer results. But I do think that he has become obsessed with his self image and desire to avoid contention.
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I think that he has got caught up with his own reputation. I suspect that he wants to be the ref that gives out fewest reds, awards fewest contentious penalties and does not upset the managers of the very top teams. He may then believe that makes him the best referee.

This is only my opinion. I do not have great insight or psychology qualifications. However, I did see him fail to award a clear penalty that he had a perfect view of from very close by. There have been other similar incidents this season.

I don't think that he is a cheat or deliberately sets out to engineer results. But I do think that he has become obsessed with his self image and desire to avoid contention.

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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 01 Apr 14 4.48pm
Quote Plumpton eagle at 01 Apr 2014 3.03pm I think that he has got caught up with his own reputation. I suspect that he wants to be the ref that gives out fewest reds, awards fewest contentious penalties and does not upset the managers of the very top teams. He may then believe that makes him the best referee. This is only my opinion. I do not have great insight or psychology qualifications. However, I did see him fail to award a clear penalty that he had a perfect view of from very close by. There have been other similar incidents this season. I don't think that he is a cheat or deliberately sets out to engineer results. But I do think that he has become obsessed with his self image and desire to avoid contention. Well once you get obsessed with your self image and desire to avoid contention as a ref or in any other job I think you are farther down the slimy slope to mediocrity than many people realize . Certainly his performance was from stellar at Selhurst.!.
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Covington.Tennessee 01 Apr 14 4.48pm

Quote Plumpton eagle at 01 Apr 2014 3.03pm

I don't think that he is a cheat or deliberately sets out to engineer results. But I do think that he has become obsessed with his self image and desire to avoid contention.

Well once you get obsessed with your self image and desire to avoid contention as a ref or in any other job I think you are farther down the slimy slope to mediocrity than many people realize . Certainly his performance was from stellar at Selhurst.!.

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Hoof Hearted 01 Apr 14 5.09pm
Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.
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Hoof Hearted 01 Apr 14 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Apr 14 6.11pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player. Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Apr 14 6.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?

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Seth On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.17pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 1.36pm Quote Rudi Hedman at 01 Apr 2014 11.26am A good ref will see what everyone else sees and give the decision, regardless of stage, venue, opposition, live on tv, whatever it is. I certainly do not accept that Webb makes decisions on the bases you have described.He is a FIFA ref and as such it is ridiculous to term him a "Bad ref".Yes he like other refs are only human and as such will make mistakes but to reach the standard he has reached (FIFA) means that he has achieved excellent marks over a period of time. He has got to the top of his profession for a good reason. Edited by Willo (01 Apr 2014 1.51pm) You talk like "FIFA" is some gold standard of probity and competence. The fact that FIFA is a maelstrom of greed, nepotism, bribery and corruption means that Webb's status as a "FIFA ref" has about as much credibility as anything Sepp Blatter has ever said. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.17pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 1.36pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 01 Apr 2014 11.26am

A good ref will see what everyone else sees and give the decision, regardless of stage, venue, opposition, live on tv, whatever it is.

I certainly do not accept that Webb makes decisions on the bases you have described.He is a FIFA ref and as such it is ridiculous to term him a "Bad ref".Yes he like other refs are only human and as such will make mistakes but to reach the standard he has reached (FIFA) means that he has achieved excellent marks over a period of time.
He has got to the top of his profession for a good reason.

Edited by Willo (01 Apr 2014 1.51pm)

You talk like "FIFA" is some gold standard of probity and competence. The fact that FIFA is a maelstrom of greed, nepotism, bribery and corruption means that Webb's status as a "FIFA ref" has about as much credibility as anything Sepp Blatter has ever said.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Seth On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.18pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player. Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ? I can think of a lot worse insults for referees than that willo. Blind, stupid, biased, cheating c*nt, for instance. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.18pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?

I can think of a lot worse insults for referees than that willo.

Blind, stupid, biased, cheating c*nt, for instance.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Mapletree Croydon 01 Apr 14 6.20pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player. Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ? Totally unfair on Charlton fans.
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Mapletree

Croydon 01 Apr 14 6.20pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?

Totally unfair on Charlton fans.

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Icepick Tony Chester 01 Apr 14 6.22pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player. Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ? Alright Graham, game is up. Now we know why you have these facts on players favorite shampoo and what colour socks they gave their father for Xmas 2007. "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 01 Apr 14 6.22pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?

Alright Graham, game is up. Now we know why you have these facts on players favorite shampoo and what colour socks they gave their father for Xmas 2007.

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Apr 14 6.44pm
Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 6.17pm You talk like "FIFA" is some gold standard of probity and competence. The fact that FIFA is a maelstrom of greed, nepotism, bribery and corruption means that Webb's status as a "FIFA ref" has about as much credibility as anything Sepp Blatter has ever said. You might slate FIFA but lets not intimate that referees are selected as a result of "Bribery", "Corruption" etc etc.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Apr 14 6.44pm

Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 6.17pm

You might slate FIFA but lets not intimate that referees are selected as a result of "Bribery", "Corruption" etc etc.

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Seth On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.53pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.44pm Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 6.17pm You talk like "FIFA" is some gold standard of probity and competence. The fact that FIFA is a maelstrom of greed, nepotism, bribery and corruption means that Webb's status as a "FIFA ref" has about as much credibility as anything Sepp Blatter has ever said. You might slate FIFA but lets not intimate that referees are selected as a result of "Bribery", "Corruption" etc etc. I didn't intimate that. I was merely pointing out that saying a ref deserves respect just because he's a "FIFA ref" is ludicrous given that FIFA knows as much about ethical governance and probity as I know about quantum mechanics. Putting the label "FIFA" on something to make it appear more respectable and credible is patently absurd. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 01 Apr 14 6.53pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.44pm

Quote Seth at 01 Apr 2014 6.17pm

You might slate FIFA but lets not intimate that referees are selected as a result of "Bribery", "Corruption" etc etc.

I didn't intimate that. I was merely pointing out that saying a ref deserves respect just because he's a "FIFA ref" is ludicrous given that FIFA knows as much about ethical governance and probity as I know about quantum mechanics.

Putting the label "FIFA" on something to make it appear more respectable and credible is patently absurd.

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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Bekken 01 Apr 14 7.03pm
Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player. Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ? Willo, your like the Police mate. Bore off.
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Bekken

01 Apr 14 7.03pm

Quote Willo at 01 Apr 2014 6.11pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 01 Apr 2014 5.09pm

Webb reminds me of Graham Poll.... the clown that didn't realise he had dished out 3 yellow cards to the same player.

Yes Poll made a major error but it is unfair to term him a "Clown".Can we not pass comment without resorting to personal insults ?

Willo, your like the Police mate. Bore off.

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