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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jan 17 1.56pm

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

Perhaps if you posted less sh*te and more content then you wouldn't be dismissed as a plagiarist and a fool. Quality, not quantity.

I might be many things but one thing I am NOT is a "Plagiarist". As for "Fool", those who know me would certainly not categorize me as such and they would know better than those on here who don't really know me from 'Adam'.

As for "Quality" over "Quantity", my dear wife has been content with both over the years !

 
Hansy Flag 05 Jan 17 8.59am

Van Aanholt and Kone rumour. Nice to see we're starting where we desperately need.

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jan 17 9.10am

Originally posted by Willo

I might be many things but one thing I am NOT is a "Plagiarist". As for "Fool", those who know me would certainly not categorize me as such and they would know better than those on here who don't really know me from 'Trolley'.

As for "Quality" over "Quantity", my dear wife has been content with both over the years !

EFA

 

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jan 17 9.19am

Originally posted by mattteo

WTF is that??????
WTF have you been smoking??????? "Souare great going forward"??


Suare in the Premier League: 1 assist in 3 thousand 9 hundred minutes. That's more than 40 games!! And he didn't do well in the offensive in France either.

van Aanholt in the Premier League: 8 goals and 4 assists in the last 4 thousand and 5 hundred minutes. And he was great before that in the Eredivisie too.

Back on topic, I don't see HOW Palace could transfer van Aanholt. He'd be worth at least 10 million and Sunderland will hang on to him desperately to avoid relegation.


Palace just can't pay 10 million on a left back, It wouldn't be wise. There are much cheaper options out there, just as good: Rausch from Germany would be available for about 3 million, COENTRAO WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR FREE (he's only 28, was amazing on loan at Monaco, but they didn't buy him, would just want high wages cause he comes from Madrid, but well deserves them), Jefferson from Sporting, even Luis Ibanez who is a lesser known Argentine left back and was the best in Croatia for Dinamo Zagreb and in Serbia for Red Star Belgrade and could compete well at the Premier League level (better than Souare)
. He's not appreciated in Trabzonspor (they're in turmoil) and they would let him go on a free.

Edited by mattteo (04 Jan 2017 4.02pm)


Quote whatever stats you want, sometimes you have to watch games, not play FM in your latex boxers, drinking Diamond White scratching your nutssuddenly thinking you're Pep. Souare is not great defensively but is very good attacking. We don't play with Wing Backs remember. Also on previous posts I have made it clear Souare should be at best back up when he returns even if he is at 100%. Improvement across the pitch is what's required.

 

the dignified don't even enter in the game

mattteo Flag 05 Jan 17 9.46am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


Quote whatever stats you want, sometimes you have to watch games, not play FM in your latex boxers, drinking Diamond White scratching your nutssuddenly thinking you're Pep. Souare is not great defensively but is very good attacking. We don't play with Wing Backs remember. Also on previous posts I have made it clear Souare should be at best back up when he returns even if he is at 100%. Improvement across the pitch is what's required.


Call me whatever names you want. Fact is Souare has provided 1 assist in 4.000 minutes, van Aanholt has provided 12 goals and assists in a similar amount of time. That's more that 10x more. How the f*** could you say that van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare in the offensive"?

Suare is not "great" offensively. It's not because I think I'm Pep. You're just so incompetent when it comes to football that you can't even evaluate players properly. You have no idea what this sport is made of, even though you have the audacity to act as if you do.

Again, it's not something I say: look at the f****ing facts. Statistics don't lie

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.47am)

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.50am)

 
Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 05 Jan 17 10.03am

Originally posted by mattteo


Call me whatever names you want. Fact is Souare has provided 1 assist in 4.000 minutes, van Aanholt has provided 12 goals and assists in a similar amount of time. That's more that 10x more. How the f*** could you say that van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare in the offensive"?

Suare is not "great" offensively. It's not because I think I'm Pep. You're just so incompetent when it comes to football that you can't even evaluate players properly. You have no idea what this sport is made of, even though you have the audacity to act as if you do.

Again, it's not something I say: look at the f****ing facts. Statistics don't lie

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.47am)

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.50am)


Please highlight where I said "van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare"

 

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Jan 17 10.50am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


Please highlight where I said "van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare"

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Fingers crossed for this. Cant see why Sunderland would let him go, but worth a go. BFS hasnt wadted any time. Davies said no yesterday, so lets hope we have beeter luck today

 
Hudsoneagle Flag 12 Jan 17 11.03am

Matteo you think you know more than anyone else but your'e deluded.

Real Madrid players and unknown full backs from Germany that you seem to somehow know are available and exactly how much for...

You start off by using stats to base your argument on, and then end with wild assumptions on the cost and availability of said players.

It is you that doesn't understand football...you are just another one of those typical fans who sees every player transfer in the most simplistic way.

 
chateauferret Flag 12 Jan 17 11.13am

Originally posted by mattteo


Call me whatever names you want. Fact is Souare has provided 1 assist in 4.000 minutes, van Aanholt has provided 12 goals and assists in a similar amount of time. That's more that 10x more. How the f*** could you say that van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare in the offensive"?

Suare is not "great" offensively. It's not because I think I'm Pep. You're just so incompetent when it comes to football that you can't even evaluate players properly. You have no idea what this sport is made of, even though you have the audacity to act as if you do.

Again, it's not something I say: look at the f****ing facts. Statistics don't lie



I love the way you say that and then recite statistics as though they were the only way to evaluate performance. How about errm watching a game and seeing which players look skilful, hard-working and part of a team? Statistics are worth even less than normally when players are knackered, playing in the wrong positions and have been Pardewed so you have to look beyond them. I'm not very good at that and apparently neither are you. It's what we pay Sam £xm per year for.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Jan 17 12.01pm

Originally posted by chateauferret


I love the way you say that and then recite statistics as though they were the only way to evaluate performance. How about errm watching a game and seeing which players look skilful, hard-working and part of a team? Statistics are worth even less than normally when players are knackered, playing in the wrong positions and have been Pardewed so you have to look beyond them. I'm not very good at that and apparently neither are you. It's what we pay Sam £xm per year for.


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steven_t92 Flag Orpington 12 Jan 17 12.59pm

Who is this 'matteo' chump and why does he think he knows more than everyone else? I'd like to know how much coaching experience you have because you are clearly better than the rest of us at rating players.

Originally posted by mattteo


Call me whatever names you want. Fact is Souare has provided 1 assist in 4.000 minutes, van Aanholt has provided 12 goals and assists in a similar amount of time. That's more that 10x more. How the f*** could you say that van Aanholt is "almost as good as Souare in the offensive"?

Suare is not "great" offensively. It's not because I think I'm Pep. You're just so incompetent when it comes to football that you can't even evaluate players properly. You have no idea what this sport is made of, even though you have the audacity to act as if you do.

Again, it's not something I say: look at the f****ing facts. Statistics don't lie

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.47am)

Edited by mattteo (05 Jan 2017 9.50am)

 
sxp55 Flag South Norwood 12 Jan 17 1.07pm

it whats happens when you play too much Football Manager. He definitely suits up whilst playing too

 

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palaceontheup Flag 12 Jan 17 2.08pm

Originally posted by sxp55

it whats happens when you play too much Football Manager. He definitely suits up whilst playing too

Nothing wrong with Footy Manager mate!

 

Yannick Bolasie - Glenn Murray - Wilfried Zaha

Most exciting attacking trio at Selhurst Park in years.
Hudsoneagle Flag 12 Jan 17 2.23pm

Originally posted by sxp55

it whats happens when you play too much Football Manager. He definitely suits up whilst playing too

 
coulsdoneagle Flag London 12 Jan 17 6.19pm

Hope this happens. Much better option than Schlupp and cheaper. Plus has worked with Sam before.

 
mattteo Flag 12 Jan 17 8.11pm

Originally posted by chateauferret


I love the way you say that and then recite statistics as though they were the only way to evaluate performance. How about errm watching a game and seeing which players look skilful, hard-working and part of a team? Statistics are worth even less than normally when players are knackered, playing in the wrong positions and have been Pardewed so you have to look beyond them. I'm not very good at that and apparently neither are you. It's what we pay Sam £xm per year for.


It's just an opinion, mate. Of course I think MY opinion is the right one. I mean....doesn't everybody?

I'm all about watching players beyond statistics. I only talk about players I've watched.

But when you have a debate about who is better offensively, van Aanholt o Souare and the first has provided like 12 assists while the latter only 1 in a similar amount of time, then it's just normal to shove the statistics down the throat of the one who is still blind.

I mean it's not a 3 to 1 or 6 to 1 or even 10 to 1 difference.
It's 12 to 1 in favour of van Aanholt.


Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.11pm)

Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.12pm)

 
Shifty97 Flag Croydon 12 Jan 17 8.44pm

I'm not to keen on the idea of signing him, he is quality going forward but in my opinion he is dreadful defensively, I don't think a fullback like that will benefit us in our current situation

 
chateauferret Flag 12 Jan 17 10.03pm

Originally posted by mattteo


It's just an opinion, mate. Of course I think MY opinion is the right one. I mean....doesn't everybody?

I'm all about watching players beyond statistics. I only talk about players I've watched.

But when you have a debate about who is better offensively, van Aanholt o Souare and the first has provided like 12 assists while the latter only 1 in a similar amount of time, then it's just normal to shove the statistics down the throat of the one who is still blind.

I mean it's not a 3 to 1 or 6 to 1 or even 10 to 1 difference.
It's 12 to 1 in favour of van Aanholt.


Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.11pm)

Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.12pm)

You have to take Pardew into account, for one thing. You also have to realise that a lot of Souare's crosses were into penalty areas devoid of strikers.

 

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mattteo Flag 13 Jan 17 9.08am

Originally posted by chateauferret

You have to take Pardew into account, for one thing. You also have to realise that a lot of Souare's crosses were into penalty areas devoid of strikers.

Why devoid of strikers?
Gayle is one of the best strikers I've seen. Adebayor is not that bad. Connor Wickham is average.

It's not their fault that Souare can't cross.

 
bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 13 Jan 17 9.22am

Originally posted by mattteo

Why devoid of strikers?
Gayle is one of the best strikers I've seen. Adebayor is not that bad. Connor Wickham is average.

It's not their fault that Souare can't cross.

Adebayor...really?

Putting in crosses was never Souare's primary role, although I've seen some decent ones from him; that was Bolasie's job. Although not universally lauded on here when he was playing, the defence went completely to pieces without him, so he must have been doing something right.

 

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