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miles18 Telford 14 Apr 17 1.09pm
Hope not and I bloody hope we don't do a player + cash for Zaha. He's s*** and defiantly not what we need at Palace. .
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miles18

Telford 14 Apr 17 1.09pm

Hope not and I bloody hope we don't do a player + cash for Zaha. He's s*** and defiantly not what we need at Palace.

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mattteo 14 Apr 17 1.33pm
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle He has been sh*t for Spurs and hardly puts in 100%. He is lazy and has no bottle. [Link] This guy? I really love that last one at the 3.28 mark. Also, here: [Link] (everything he does!) But especially at the 0:34 mark to a very fast Renato Sanches and at the 1:15 mark (just wow!) And one from this year: [Link] At 2:28 you can see he actually does run He's definitely not a very technically gifted player and perhaps a Top 6 team which plays high up against very crowded teams isn't for him, but in a mid-table team playing counter-attack he's really good. Maybe you judge him cause he's not very good as an attacking midfielder. But he's a wonderful box-to-box, all-rounder Edited by mattteo (14 Apr 2017 1.36pm) Edited by mattteo (14 Apr 2017 1.36pm)
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mattteo

14 Apr 17 1.33pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

He has been sh*t for Spurs and hardly puts in 100%. He is lazy and has no bottle.

[Link]

This guy?

I really love that last one at the 3.28 mark.

Also, here:
[Link]

(everything he does!) But especially at the 0:34 mark to a very fast Renato Sanches and at the 1:15 mark (just wow!)

And one from this year:
[Link]

At 2:28 you can see he actually does run

He's definitely not a very technically gifted player and perhaps a Top 6 team which plays high up against very crowded teams isn't for him, but in a mid-table team playing counter-attack he's really good.
Maybe you judge him cause he's not very good as an attacking midfielder. But he's a wonderful box-to-box, all-rounder

Edited by mattteo (14 Apr 2017 1.36pm)

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chateauferret 14 Apr 17 7.01pm
I don't deny that a player that looks poor in one team might turn out to be excellent for another due to differences in style, etc. but I think (as with the injuries issue) one is taking a risk. Performances in national sides might provide some other evidence. However, no matter what team a player is in even occasional laziness and sloth are always bad signs IMHO. ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

14 Apr 17 7.01pm

I don't deny that a player that looks poor in one team might turn out to be excellent for another due to differences in style, etc. but I think (as with the injuries issue) one is taking a risk. Performances in national sides might provide some other evidence. However, no matter what team a player is in even occasional laziness and sloth are always bad signs IMHO.

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mattteo 14 Apr 17 9.27pm
Originally posted by chateauferret I don't deny that a player that looks poor in one team might turn out to be excellent for another due to differences in style, etc. but I think (as with the injuries issue) one is taking a risk. Performances in national sides might provide some other evidence. However, no matter what team a player is in even occasional laziness and sloth are always bad signs IMHO. Just proved you that he's not lazy and a sloth from the videos above. Not sure what player you're talking about. If there's an example of someone who's not lazy, that's Sissoko. I can't understand how you see him like that
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mattteo

14 Apr 17 9.27pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

Just proved you that he's not lazy and a sloth from the videos above. Not sure what player you're talking about. If there's an example of someone who's not lazy, that's Sissoko.
I can't understand how you see him like that

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Apr 17 9.32pm
Originally posted by mattteo Just proved you that he's not lazy and a sloth from the videos above. Not sure what player you're talking about. If there's an example of someone who's not lazy, that's Sissoko. I can't understand how you see him like that You really talk sh1t pal. Over and over again. There is a proven stat that he hasn't been given a 7 or more match rating unless it was on tv. Mike Ashley rubbed his hands together when he performed at the euros and made a tidy profit. Since then, waste of space again. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 14 Apr 17 9.32pm

Originally posted by mattteo

You really talk sh1t pal. Over and over again.

There is a proven stat that he hasn't been given a 7 or more match rating unless it was on tv. Mike Ashley rubbed his hands together when he performed at the euros and made a tidy profit. Since then, waste of space again.

COYP

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mattteo 14 Apr 17 10.12pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman You really talk sh1t pal. Over and over again. There is a proven stat that he hasn't been given a 7 or more match rating unless it was on tv. Mike Ashley rubbed his hands together when he performed at the euros and made a tidy profit. Since then, waste of space again. Who gives these ratings? What do you trust, the images you see for yourself or some subjective ratings given by someone else? I'm not saying he's good, but just look at the images. Is he lazy??
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mattteo

14 Apr 17 10.12pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You really talk sh1t pal. Over and over again.

Who gives these ratings?
What do you trust, the images you see for yourself or some subjective ratings given by someone else?

I'm not saying he's good, but just look at the images. Is he lazy??

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chateauferret 14 Apr 17 10.32pm
Originally posted by mattteo Just proved you that he's not lazy and a sloth from the videos above. Not sure what player you're talking about. If there's an example of someone who's not lazy, that's Sissoko. I can't understand how you see him like that Actually I didn't mention any names, but was making a general statement. If any player was in my mind as exemplifying the attitude problem it was Bumfluff. However since you mention it I am distinctly unimpressed with Sissoko's workrate. Maybe that can be addressed by coaching staff - look what they've done with Townsend. Edited by chateauferret (14 Apr 2017 10.33pm) ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

14 Apr 17 10.32pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Actually I didn't mention any names, but was making a general statement. If any player was in my mind as exemplifying the attitude problem it was Bumfluff.

However since you mention it I am distinctly unimpressed with Sissoko's workrate. Maybe that can be addressed by coaching staff - look what they've done with Townsend.

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HeathMan Purley 14 Apr 17 10.55pm
Seems to be a player who needs love and encouragement. I would be inclined to offer tough love - Loan fee (first half of season) at £2m with options for balance of season at £2.5m, and purchase in either January or season's end at £14m. He has to prove himself for Palace.
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HeathMan

Purley 14 Apr 17 10.55pm

Seems to be a player who needs love and encouragement. I would be inclined to offer tough love - Loan fee (first half of season) at £2m with options for balance of season at £2.5m, and purchase in either January or season's end at £14m.

He has to prove himself for Palace.

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thechaddyboy Peterborough 14 Apr 17 11.06pm
If Wilf is off at the end of the season I'd rather it be for the full price than be palmed off with their 'bad buys', Sissoko's hardly set the world on fire since his transfer but you know full well that Levy will still value him highly in any deal. Red & Blue since 73'
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thechaddyboy

Peterborough 14 Apr 17 11.06pm

If Wilf is off at the end of the season I'd rather it be for the full price than be palmed off with their 'bad buys', Sissoko's hardly set the world on fire since his transfer but you know full well that Levy will still value him highly in any deal.

Red & Blue since 73'

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GujiMadDog England 15 Apr 17 8.10am
Yes we shuould go all out to buy him however, if not then... Kone from sunderland would be my bet. He did a fantastic job with Big Fat Sam at Sunderland the previous season and with the Mackems on their way down plus financial woes mens we could get him at a decent price in an overflated market place
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GujiMadDog

England 15 Apr 17 8.10am

Yes we shuould go all out to buy him however, if not then...

Kone from sunderland would be my bet. He did a fantastic job with Big Fat Sam at Sunderland the previous season and with the Mackems on their way down plus financial woes mens we could get him at a decent price in an overflated market place

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mattteo 15 Apr 17 8.26am
Originally posted by GujiMadDog Yes we shuould go all out to buy him however, if not then... Kone from sunderland would be my bet. He did a fantastic job with Big Fat Sam at Sunderland the previous season and with the Mackems on their way down plus financial woes mens we could get him at a decent price in an overflated market place I think you posted in the wrong thread. I'm pretty sure you were talking about Sakho at first, right? And if not him, then Kone, the Sunderland center back
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mattteo

15 Apr 17 8.26am

Originally posted by GujiMadDog

Yes we shuould go all out to buy him however, if not then...

I think you posted in the wrong thread. I'm pretty sure you were talking about Sakho at first, right? And if not him, then Kone, the Sunderland center back

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Apr 17 8.47am
Originally posted by mattteo Who gives these ratings? What do you trust, the images you see for yourself or some subjective ratings given by someone else? I'm not saying he's good, but just look at the images. Is he lazy?? Well I would trust Spurs supporters who watch him every week, over you who see him on Football Manager or some video compiled, no doubt, by his agent. Ant professional player could put together a short compilation which makes them look like world beaters.
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Spiderman

Horsham 15 Apr 17 8.47am

Originally posted by mattteo

Who gives these ratings?
What do you trust, the images you see for yourself or some subjective ratings given by someone else?

I'm not saying he's good, but just look at the images. Is he lazy??

Well I would trust Spurs supporters who watch him every week, over you who see him on Football Manager or some video compiled, no doubt, by his agent. Ant professional player could put together a short compilation which makes them look like world beaters.

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