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glaziermart 04 Feb 18 8.41pm
Originally posted by Willo I would urge those to ignore the ridiculous allegations of "Troll". I have looked at the next 6 games - Everton,Tottenham,Man Utd,Chelsea,Huddersfield,Liverpool. In all honesty how many points will we get ? Looking at the 'Big Picture' I am seriously concerned about our chances and speaking to some at the game today I am far far being alone. Some on HOL express a more positive message but all I am doing is stating how I feel. No i do not think you are a troll Willo,but you should be a bit more positive. We are a good team and remember Swansea beat both Liverpool and Arsenal recently. You can never write off any game
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glaziermart

04 Feb 18 8.41pm

Originally posted by Willo

I would urge those to ignore the ridiculous allegations of "Troll".

I have looked at the next 6 games - Everton,Tottenham,Man Utd,Chelsea,Huddersfield,Liverpool. In all honesty how many points will we get ?

Looking at the 'Big Picture' I am seriously concerned about our chances and speaking to some at the game today I am far far being alone.

Some on HOL express a more positive message but all I am doing is stating how I feel.

No i do not think you are a troll Willo,but you should be a bit more positive. We are a good team and remember Swansea beat both Liverpool and Arsenal recently. You can never write off any game

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NickinOX Sailing country. 04 Feb 18 8.44pm
Originally posted by chateauferret Stoke's win the other day looks like a flash in the pan. West Brom have more to do than the other teams and have deluded themselves into thinking that Sturridge is their deus ex machina: their manager is still Pardew. Huddersfield look absolute poo now. Toon were lucky to get away with a point today and they won't do that every week. Swansea do seem to have turned it around for now. I would agree about Swansea, but they just lost Fer and Bony for the season. Neither of them have been regular starters this year, but their squad is already thin. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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NickinOX

Sailing country. 04 Feb 18 8.44pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

Stoke's win the other day looks like a flash in the pan. West Brom have more to do than the other teams and have deluded themselves into thinking that Sturridge is their deus ex machina: their manager is still Pardew. Huddersfield look absolute poo now. Toon were lucky to get away with a point today and they won't do that every week. Swansea do seem to have turned it around for now.

I would agree about Swansea, but they just lost Fer and Bony for the season. Neither of them have been regular starters this year, but their squad is already thin.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 8.48pm
I have just looked at some stats for the last 12 PL seasons, looking at points of the teams 3rd from bottom which of course were relegated. In 2016/17, the 3rd from bottom got 34 pts - previous to that 37,35,33,36,36,39,30,34,36,38 and 34.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 8.48pm

I have just looked at some stats for the last 12 PL seasons, looking at points of the teams 3rd from bottom which of course were relegated.

In 2016/17, the 3rd from bottom got 34 pts - previous to that 37,35,33,36,36,39,30,34,36,38 and 34.

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taylors lovechild 04 Feb 18 8.54pm
This season has shown that everyone can take points off anyone, so I wouldn't write off our chances in any game. Hell, we took a point of Man City (and almost three) and have already beaten Chelsea once. Some people's unending negativity does get tiresome, but then maybe they get annoyed with people like me who are nearly always optimistic. Two defeats in 14 games. Yes, we could have done with turning more of those into wins, but it's still bloody good reading. And that with a catalogue of injuries.
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This season has shown that everyone can take points off anyone, so I wouldn't write off our chances in any game. Hell, we took a point of Man City (and almost three) and have already beaten Chelsea once.

Some people's unending negativity does get tiresome, but then maybe they get annoyed with people like me who are nearly always optimistic.

Two defeats in 14 games. Yes, we could have done with turning more of those into wins, but it's still bloody good reading. And that with a catalogue of injuries.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 8.59pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild This season has shown that everyone can take points off anyone, so I wouldn't write off our chances in any game. Hell, we took a point of Man City (and almost three) and have already beaten Chelsea once. Some people's unending negativity does get tiresome, but then maybe they get annoyed with people like me who are nearly always optimistic. Two defeats in 14 games. Yes, we could have done with turning more of those into wins, but it's still bloody good reading. And that with a catalogue of injuries. Not at all as far as I am concerned. Divergence of opinions is all part of HOL's rich tapestry. Edited by Willo (04 Feb 2018 9.46pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 8.59pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Some people's unending negativity does get tiresome, but then maybe they get annoyed with people like me who are nearly always optimistic.

Two defeats in 14 games. Yes, we could have done with turning more of those into wins, but it's still bloody good reading. And that with a catalogue of injuries.

Not at all as far as I am concerned.
Divergence of opinions is all part of HOL's rich tapestry.

Edited by Willo (04 Feb 2018 9.46pm)

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dorking 04 Feb 18 9.04pm
3 wins and loads more 'Roy' draws, which we are very good at lately, that'll be enough Obv the sooner we get them points the better
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dorking

04 Feb 18 9.04pm

3 wins and loads more 'Roy' draws, which we are very good at lately, that'll be enough

Obv the sooner we get them points the better

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NickinOX Sailing country. 04 Feb 18 9.04pm
Originally posted by Willo I have just looked at some stats for the last 12 PL seasons, looking at points of the teams 3rd from bottom which of course were relegated. In 2016/17, the 3rd from bottom got 34 pts - previous to that 37,35,33,36,36,39,30,34,36,38 and 34. 37 points have averaged survival over the 22 seasons of 38 games. I posted this on the match thread, and cannot figure out how to link to it directly. "Over the 22 seasons (with 38 games), the average number of points gained by clubs in the relegation zone has been about 13-14 from now to the end of the season. The highest gain was 22 points, and the lowest was 8. On only 7 occasions so far, has the relegation zone moved by more than 14 points. 37 is the average number needed to stay up, and a higher number was required only 7 times." I suspect the number to stay up will be a bit lower than the average this year simply because it is so tight at the bottom and there are loads of six pointers in the bottom half of the table. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 04 Feb 18 9.04pm

Originally posted by Willo

I have just looked at some stats for the last 12 PL seasons, looking at points of the teams 3rd from bottom which of course were relegated.

In 2016/17, the 3rd from bottom got 34 pts - previous to that 37,35,33,36,36,39,30,34,36,38 and 34.

37 points have averaged survival over the 22 seasons of 38 games.

I posted this on the match thread, and cannot figure out how to link to it directly.

"Over the 22 seasons (with 38 games), the average number of points gained by clubs in the relegation zone has been about 13-14 from now to the end of the season.

The highest gain was 22 points, and the lowest was 8.

On only 7 occasions so far, has the relegation zone moved by more than 14 points.

37 is the average number needed to stay up, and a higher number was required only 7 times."

I suspect the number to stay up will be a bit lower than the average this year simply because it is so tight at the bottom and there are loads of six pointers in the bottom half of the table.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 9.06pm
Originally posted by NickinOX 37 points have averaged survival over the 22 seasons of 38 games. I posted this on the match thread, and cannot figure out how to link to it directly. "Over the 22 seasons (with 38 games), the average number of points gained by clubs in the relegation zone has been about 13-14 from now to the end of the season. The highest gain was 22 points, and the lowest was 8. On only 7 occasions so far, has the relegation zone moved by more than 14 points. 37 is the average number needed to stay up, and a higher number was required only 7 times." I suspect the number to stay up will be a bit lower than the average this year simply because it is so tight at the bottom and there are loads of six pointers in the bottom half of the table. Very interesting.Thank you.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Feb 18 9.06pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

37 points have averaged survival over the 22 seasons of 38 games.

I posted this on the match thread, and cannot figure out how to link to it directly.

"Over the 22 seasons (with 38 games), the average number of points gained by clubs in the relegation zone has been about 13-14 from now to the end of the season.

The highest gain was 22 points, and the lowest was 8.

On only 7 occasions so far, has the relegation zone moved by more than 14 points.

37 is the average number needed to stay up, and a higher number was required only 7 times."

I suspect the number to stay up will be a bit lower than the average this year simply because it is so tight at the bottom and there are loads of six pointers in the bottom half of the table.

Very interesting.Thank you.

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chris123 hove actually 04 Feb 18 9.43pm
Not sure why this helps us and not other teams in the mix?
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chris123

hove actually 04 Feb 18 9.43pm

Not sure why this helps us and not other teams in the mix?

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Feb 18 9.49pm
Originally posted by chris123 Not sure why this helps us and not other teams in the mix? You don't own any straws. COYP
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Caterham 04 Feb 18 9.49pm