The bigger picture?

Economics say stay in
Security says stay in
Environment says stay in
Trade says stay in
Opportunities for our young people says stay in

Which bigger picture aren't I getting? Oh, of course, it's your fascination with immigration. You are simply switching your immigrants from one continent to others, as time will surely tell.

There is more at stake than immigration. I agree that leaving won't immediately alter the immigration situation, but it is a step.
The price we would pay for remaining would be losing our identity.
Do you honestly think that the powers that be don't seek to centralise power and divide us within our own nations?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2018 1.04pm)

Losing our identity? Really? You mean that identity we built up through inviting people in (and sometime not inviting them) from the Norse countries, France and Germany primarily? With alliances between ourselves and Spain, Portugal and Holland variously? Oh do me a favour, our identity is a moving feast but it really isn't incompatible with those of others. Take a look at from where we brought in our monarchy over the years.

So you trade some kind of project fear around concerns relating to identity for real relative impoverishment. Each to their own I suppose.

There was once a period in the not too distant past when the left actually cared about and defended UK jobs.

Briton for the beaker people....NOW!

what don't we want? Anglo-Saxons
when don't we want them? 1500 years ago.

I don't know why you keep saying I am 'the Left'. I defend jobs for British people, you may not have noticed but lots of us get about a bit.

I defend the UK economy which provides the building block for British people to get good work. And social supports as well.

I also feel much connectivity with all other EU countries as they have been gracious enough to welcome me to work there.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Nov 2018 1.37pm)