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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
However, have a look at the GDP of Croatia...or indeed most other countries and compare them to ours. The 'real' English are fine.....and its duds are still worthy of their birthright because essentially.....they are our duds. I'm not going to sell them out because someone with a foreign accent is higher achieving than them. Allegiance matters more......though I accept that there is a wider European allegiance also. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Sep 2019 1.42pm) Not sure where this 'allegiance' stuff comes into it if I am honest. Whilst I make no bones about my Western Chauvinism, I also put as much emphasis on values as I do accidents of birth in terms of who I identify with. And I despair of the dumbing down of working-class culture in this country. Where you are more likely to find a television attached to a wall than a painting or book-cases that contain everything else other than actual books. And we, collectively, have to take some of the blame for that. The working class sold their collective political souls for a chance to play golf at the weekends and take off for two weeks a year in some soul-destroying all-inclusive luxury prison camp in a third-world s*** hole. However, I also concede that I can be a bit odd and yearn for the day in which the notion of teaching primary school children the basics of Hellenistic philosophy trumps any nonsense about cartoon penguins having two dads. With 'Meditations' by Marcus Aurelius the base for our entire educational syllabus!
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
spend loads on consumer goods versus spending frugally. the former are working class. What a load of bollox
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Originally posted by Matov
Wall mounting a TV gives you far more useable space in the room and who needs bookcases stuffed with books in the age of the Kindle. It's common sense and nothing to do with class
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Originally posted by Matov
Not sure where this 'allegiance' stuff comes into it if I am honest. Whilst I make no bones about my Western Chauvinism, I also put as much emphasis on values as I do accidents of birth in terms of who I identify with. And I despair of the dumbing down of working-class culture in this country. Where you are more likely to find a television attached to a wall than a painting or book-cases that contain everything else other than actual books. And we, collectively, have to take some of the blame for that. The working class sold their collective political souls for a chance to play golf at the weekends and take off for two weeks a year in some soul-destroying all-inclusive luxury prison camp in a third-world s*** hole. However, I also concede that I can be a bit odd and yearn for the day in which the notion of teaching primary school children the basics of Hellenistic philosophy trumps any nonsense about cartoon penguins having two dads. With 'Meditations' by Marcus Aurelius the base for our entire educational syllabus! Ah a Stoicist....probably the best value system there is. I couldn't agree more and of course western chauvinism is just a recognition of reality.
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A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying.
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Originally posted by sickboy
A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying. very risky SB, one dunk only or the lot plops into your mug making one unholy mess once its happened several times.
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caravan holidays-middle class or working class?
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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall
caravan holidays-middle class or working class? Camber and Rye were family favourites for years when I was growing up, and Broadstairs & Whitstable, but not Margate which my aunt really loved, our mum didn't like it.
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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall
very risky SB, one dunk only or the lot plops into your mug making one unholy mess once its happened several times. One dunk then the whole lot in.
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Originally posted by sickboy
One dunk then the whole lot in. tunnocks caramel wafer , that's what you want.
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Originally posted by sickboy
A few weeks ago Carol Midgley, in The Times, wrote , in response to Meghan Markle claiming to be working class, that you have to have drunk tea from a giant sports direct mug before qualifying. Middle class will have McVities. Working class will have Aldi chocolate biscuits. The classical distinction.
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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall
tunnocks caramel wafer , that's what you want. Never without a packet (or 4) in the fridge. A childhood favourite that has stood the test of time.
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