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 Portuguese  Porto 09 Sep 20 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by SeagullHunter
At the reluctance of high-jacking this thread, there is no definitive evidence to suggest this was not 'man-made', but that equally doesn't mean it was a deliberate leak. In fact, leading scientists who aren't backed by political donations have said the most LIKELY circumstance is that it was artificially tampered with in a lab. The best example being the artificial insertion of certain proteins in the cell. Please don't be so dismissive, and spread false information in a time where we're already inundated with such. Onto the Palace topic, really is a shame the way the club has handled it. The best way to solve would be through a circulated petition that garners signatories from people with clout. Sadly, I still don't see the club budging... The Parish profit vehicle chugs on You're right this topic isn't about SARS-CoV-2 but what you said falls in the same category of antivacination conspiracy. By the way if you want chat about virology, genetic strands, and ribosomal transcription I would be delight. Plus if you're interested I can recommend a list of good articules and scientific investigation about this issue. This is a zoonotic disease has many others.
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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 09 Sep 20 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Were you there in the 80s tom?
The point I make though mate is what happens if you either don’t want to or can’t afford to renew for the 21/22 season. I’m presuming you then lose your money owed
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| Ali_Campbell New Addington 09 Sep 20 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You do understand the difference between customer loyalty and fan loyalty and club owners taking liberties with the latter? Because people sit back and pay up is why they take the piss. I wasn’t interested in going anyway so was in a way making way for someone who does. Charging people for that by mega wealthy people is unacceptable. Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2020 2.06pm) Of course I understand the difference. However fan loyalty and customer loyalty is still a personal choice. It’s not contractual or a law. Lots of huge profit making companies or owners are greedy and charge over and beyond what they should.
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Deleagle  "Bubba's bar 'n' grill" 09 Sep 20 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Were you there in the 80s tom? You appear to love this quote as you've used it on other threads. 5000 fans back then wasn't the norm and there were away fans too and you could be with your mates and jump, sing, hug and kiss if you wanted but it'll be a sterile atmosphere now. That's not the usual Selhurst experience like it has been since I started going in '72 and was long before that so your quote is not correct. Check the crowd stats for '79 to '90 I've attached, don't forget there are away fans in those figures so even less than 5k Palace at 1 or 2 fixtures. Edited by Deleagle (09 Sep 2020 5.00pm)
What can this strange device be?
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| Hudsoneagle 09 Sep 20 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
Exactly...this is my point. Anything I don’t want or I feel is over priced...I don’t buy. Simple. It’s simple if it’s a product you can purchase somewhere else...but it’s not is it??? So it’s not so simple.
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| kev64 Cambs 09 Sep 20 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
Rudi, I agree with you that CPFC’s approach is expensive. My partner is a Leicester season ticket holder and their process is much better. They credit their account and for every game, money is deducted. If there is no credit, they can’t enter a ballot. She has credited her account with £70.00. Well below the figures we have to pay. However, there is ‘Freedom’ and in your opinion ‘unreasonable’. Your not contractually obliged to pay the £500-£800 or the holding fee of £200. The price has been set by the club and that’s it. They are not making any of us pay these sums. They done make us buy any shirts, hats....ANYTHING. You have the freedom to walk away and spend your hard earned money on things more reasonable. The issue is Ali , football is emotive if you don’t want to pay yes of course you can walk away, but where are the alternatives? . Why simply can’t the club offer to put St on hold at no cost ? I’m sure plenty will renew to fill the available seats .. if by then which looks more doubtful by the day fans are let in. After several months of fans loosing jobs, income, being furloughed etc etc the club they support deal another kick in teeth by telling us to pay up or lose your seat. Outstanding from a business that once the PL gravey train ends will actually need fan loyalty to provide needed income. They whole issue has been handled with the foresight of a fool that clearly has no empathy for fans that have suffered and are suffering financially still. Unfortunately we’re all not ££ rich with Surrey mansions.
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| bicycle repair man 09 Sep 20 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by kev64
The issue is Ali , football is emotive if you don’t want to pay yes of course you can walk away, but where are the alternatives? . Why simply can’t the club offer to put St on hold at no cost ? I’m sure plenty will renew to fill the available seats .. if by then which looks more doubtful by the day fans are let in. After several months of fans loosing jobs, income, being furloughed etc etc the club they support deal another kick in teeth by telling us to pay up or lose your seat. Outstanding from a business that once the PL gravey train ends will actually need fan loyalty to provide needed income. They whole issue has been handled with the foresight of a fool that clearly has no empathy for fans that have suffered and are suffering financially still. Unfortunately we’re all not ££ rich with Surrey mansions. You are absolutely and irrefutably,100% correct.
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| kenners46 sydenham village 09 Sep 20 9.44pm |
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Originally posted by Deleagle
You appear to love this quote as you've used it on other threads. 5000 fans back then wasn't the norm and there were away fans too and you could be with your mates and jump, sing, hug and kiss if you wanted but it'll be a sterile atmosphere now. That's not the usual Selhurst experience like it has been since I started going in '72 and was long before that so your quote is not correct. Check the crowd stats for '79 to '90 I've attached, don't forget there are away fans in those figures so even less than 5k Palace at 1 or 2 fixtures. Edited by Deleagle (09 Sep 2020 5.00pm) Im pretty sure there was under 4000 for one Tuesday night game, i was at every game apart from a couple in 1989-90 where i was working on a Saturday...somehow i enjoyed the games a lot more in the 1980s when were pretty dismal compared to watching the drab games in the Premier league now
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| bicycle repair man 09 Sep 20 9.53pm |
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I've attended a league match at the Palace when attendance was less than 4,000.
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| Deleagle "Bubba's bar 'n' grill" 09 Sep 20 10.12pm |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
I've attended a league match at the Palace when attendance was less than 4,000. Not in the 80's though, and the lowest average attendance was 6,400+ in the 84/5 season.
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| kenners46 sydenham village 09 Sep 20 10.43pm |
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Originally posted by Deleagle
Not in the 80's though, and the lowest average attendance was 6,400+ in the 84/5 season.
It was a Tuesday night game in the 1980s, either Carlisle or Cardiff i think, may even have been Cambridge, wheres Willo
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| bicycle repair man 09 Sep 20 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by Deleagle
Not in the 80's though, and the lowest average attendance was 6,400+ in the 84/5 season.
It was in the definitely in the eighties.
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BlueJay  UK 09 Sep 20 10.59pm |
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The fans always get the sh!t end of the stick..
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| Ali_Campbell New Addington 09 Sep 20 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by kev64
The issue is Ali , football is emotive if you don’t want to pay yes of course you can walk away, but where are the alternatives? . Why simply can’t the club offer to put St on hold at no cost ? I’m sure plenty will renew to fill the available seats .. if by then which looks more doubtful by the day fans are let in. After several months of fans loosing jobs, income, being furloughed etc etc the club they support deal another kick in teeth by telling us to pay up or lose your seat. Outstanding from a business that once the PL gravey train ends will actually need fan loyalty to provide needed income. They whole issue has been handled with the foresight of a fool that clearly has no empathy for fans that have suffered and are suffering financially still. Unfortunately we’re all not ££ rich with Surrey mansions. I’m not saying that I condone the costs or the costs to hold your seat for the following season. I agree, other alternatives could have been better for the majority of fans. However, the fool that clearly has no empathy for fans suffering gets to set what ever price they want. We as fans have two options, we either pay or we don’t. It’s up to us The alternative is what ever you want it to be. There was a life before owning and there will be one after your/our season ticketS. Again, we are not contractually obliged to pay these costs or required to by law. It’s a loss making football club and unfortunately not a charity.
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| kev64 Cambs 09 Sep 20 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
I’m not saying that I condone the costs or the costs to hold your seat for the following season. I agree, other alternatives could have been better for the majority of fans. However, the fool that clearly has no empathy for fans suffering gets to set what ever price they want. We as fans have two options, we either pay or we don’t. It’s up to us The alternative is what ever you want it to be. There was a life before owning and there will be one after your/our season ticketS. Again, we are not contractually obliged to pay these costs or required to by law. It’s a loss making football club and unfortunately not a charity. It’s not me asking for money from CPFC charity it’s the other way round asking for my money for zero in return.. and if they can’t run a club profitably with 160 mill income, then they need to sort their s*** out and stop extending contacts for players like CW n CB who’s contributed practically nothing for 3 years. Edited by kev64 (09 Sep 2020 11.27pm)
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| Ali_Campbell New Addington 09 Sep 20 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by kev64
It’s not me asking for money from CPFC charity it’s the other way round asking for my money for zero in return.. and if they can’t run a club profitably with 160 mill income, then they need to sort their s*** out and stop extending contacts for players like CW n CB who’s contributed practically nothing for 3 years. Edited by kev64 (09 Sep 2020 11.27pm) They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Sep 20 12.40am |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere Well it looks like our opinions are changing things whereas if we stayed tight lipped we’d be walked all over. All this has reminded me of Jordan selling tickets for years in advance. Parish should be very careful on things like this. He could ruin loyalty very quickly without thinking this through first or asking people if he’s out of touch with what £250, £500 or £800 is worth.
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| kev64 Cambs 10 Sep 20 8.12am |
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Originally posted by Ali_Campbell
They are not asking for money. They just set the prices. Again, if you don’t like it, you are well within your right to take your money elsewhere They are asking for £200 from pensioners and fans with medical conditions to hold their ST over for the 20/21 season.. How is that not asking for money ?. Everyone is well aware we are not obliged to pay and take our money else where, but after supporting a club for 35 odd years In my case .. You tend to be a loyal customer .. regardless of the hoops and bs the club seem to be putting in the way of its fanbase for no logical reason.
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 paceo bromley area 10 Sep 20 8.44am |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
The box office will call you back if you leave your phone number on their automated system ... there is no reason to wait on the phone line accumulating charges. We have the opportunity until 17 Sept to reserve our seat for 2021/22 by paying £200 up front. Not ideal I know, but I think it's probably a better option than the expense and uncertainty associated with buying a ST for 2020/21. Nobody knows what may happen over the coming months but whatever occurs it won't be business as usual. I feel the club has fulfilled my requirements altho I shall be sorry to give up my ST for a whole year. Maybe if the situation allows for it they'll run a half season ST scheme later in the year?
they want medical proof to hold your seat for £200
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