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orpingtoneagle Orpington 27 Jan 21 1.59pm
My only hope is with do many contracts expiring - including management - we are planning a total rebuild in the summer. Neew management team and a real opportunity to reshape things. Sadly by then it may be too late. Very different rebuilding in a lower division. Looks like Blades and Baggies may fill 2 relegation spots but on current form we may be in the dog fight as the season pans out.

orpingtoneagle

Orpington 27 Jan 21 1.59pm

My only hope is with do many contracts expiring - including management - we are planning a total rebuild in the summer. Neew management team and a real opportunity to reshape things.

Sadly by then it may be too late. Very different rebuilding in a lower division.

Looks like Blades and Baggies may fill 2 relegation spots but on current form we may be in the dog fight as the season pans out.

PatrickA London 27 Jan 21 2.10pm
It doesn’t look good for Sheffield Utd or WBA and I’m not sure Fulham have enough goals in them despite their undoubted improvement. Even with Hodgson’s poor recent management record you would hope that we would be able to muster the four or so wins and a few draws to get us over the line. The problem is if Wilf gets injured as our record is terrible when he doesn’t feature. I will be very concerned if we offer Hodgson another extension, particularly if we are serious about rejuvenation of the squad. For me the rejuvenation should start with the manager.

PatrickA

London 27 Jan 21 2.10pm

It doesn’t look good for Sheffield Utd or WBA and I’m not sure Fulham have enough goals in them despite their undoubted improvement.
Even with Hodgson’s poor recent management record you would hope that we would be able to muster the four or so wins and a few draws to get us over the line.
The problem is if Wilf gets injured as our record is terrible when he doesn’t feature.
I will be very concerned if we offer Hodgson another extension, particularly if we are serious about rejuvenation of the squad.
For me the rejuvenation should start with the manager.

The Dolphin 27 Jan 21 2.18pm
Sleepwalking nowhere. Parish is all about staying in the Prem - whatever it takes on a low budget and zero entertainment. Having no crowds actually shows the football for what it is - very poor in my opinion. I really did enjoy Pulis football more than this stuff now. Backs to the wall, hard work, blood and thunder with points earned and a plan in place. This dross could see us relegated - I think we will avoid it but not through our own merit - more through there being even worse teams than us. Clueless - and that is right through the Club. I actually feel sorry for the players.

The Dolphin

27 Jan 21 2.18pm

Sleepwalking nowhere.
Parish is all about staying in the Prem - whatever it takes on a low budget and zero entertainment.
Having no crowds actually shows the football for what it is - very poor in my opinion.
I really did enjoy Pulis football more than this stuff now.
Backs to the wall, hard work, blood and thunder with points earned and a plan in place.
This dross could see us relegated - I think we will avoid it but not through our own merit - more through there being even worse teams than us.
Clueless - and that is right through the Club.
I actually feel sorry for the players.

Mstrobez 27 Jan 21 2.34pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin If we continue to play the way that we are currently then I forecast 34 points by the end of the season. Hopefully that will not be the case but i cannot see things changing under Hodgson - he has had - a busted flush now. Nice Man, tremendous career but please let him go and asap. If we get 34 points or less I will run around South Norwood naked before eating my pubic hair all live on camera. For all the complaints about Roy, he is still the only manager we’ve had in the Premier League who has never had us in any real danger of relegation. This isn’t about to change. You can quote me on that. We're the Arthur over ere!

Mstrobez

27 Jan 21 2.34pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If we continue to play the way that we are currently then I forecast 34 points by the end of the season.
Hopefully that will not be the case but i cannot see things changing under Hodgson - he has had - a busted flush now.
Nice Man, tremendous career but please let him go and asap.

If we get 34 points or less I will run around South Norwood naked before eating my pubic hair all live on camera. For all the complaints about Roy, he is still the only manager we’ve had in the Premier League who has never had us in any real danger of relegation. This isn’t about to change. You can quote me on that.

We're the Arthur over ere!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jan 21 2.41pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I won't claim to know more than the coaching staff but is it not obvous that we look better with Riedewald on the pitch? He has a pass in him and runs off the ball. Surely it is clear that our midfield is so static with McArthur and Mila. One of them has to be sacrificed. Time to end the Benteke farce as well. Play Batshyui and Ayew or the new guy up front and with Eze behind them. Stick Wilf back on the wing and sign a better winger than increasingly poor Townsend for the other side. Sacking the manager is not the answer now. He just needs better options and a little less loyalty to bang average players. It might also help if we signed a centre half who actually remained fit for more than two games in a row. The lack of changes has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. There's a decent case for radical changes, but that won't even be considered, not for one moment. I swear McArthur would start a game on crutches, rather than start Reidewald. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jan 21 2.41pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I won't claim to know more than the coaching staff but is it not obvous that we look better with Riedewald on the pitch?

He has a pass in him and runs off the ball. Surely it is clear that our midfield is so static with McArthur and Mila. One of them has to be sacrificed.
Time to end the Benteke farce as well. Play Batshyui and Ayew or the new guy up front and with Eze behind them. Stick Wilf back on the wing and sign a better winger than increasingly poor Townsend for the other side.
Sacking the manager is not the answer now. He just needs better options and a little less loyalty to bang average players. It might also help if we signed a centre half who actually remained fit for more than two games in a row.

The lack of changes has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. There's a decent case for radical changes, but that won't even be considered, not for one moment. I swear McArthur would start a game on crutches, rather than start Reidewald.

Red and Blue Army!

The Dolphin 27 Jan 21 2.56pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez If we get 34 points or less I will run around South Norwood naked before eating my pubic hair all live on camera. For all the complaints about Roy, he is still the only manager we’ve had in the Premier League who has never had us in any real danger of relegation. This isn’t about to change. You can quote me on that. Could be an interesting end to the season!

The Dolphin

27 Jan 21 2.56pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Could be an interesting end to the season!

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Jan 21 3.04pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin Sleepwalking nowhere. Parish is all about staying in the Prem - whatever it takes on a low budget and zero entertainment. Having no crowds actually shows the football for what it is - very poor in my opinion. I really did enjoy Pulis football more than this stuff now. Backs to the wall, hard work, blood and thunder with points earned and a plan in place. This dross could see us relegated - I think we will avoid it but not through our own merit - more through there being even worse teams than us. Clueless - and that is right through the Club. I actually feel sorry for the players. It does look that way, I agree. My hope is that the club is currently being run in such a way that Parish can navigate a way forward. I can guarantee that he does keep his fingers on the pulse of every aspect of our club. He will be well aware of fan sentiment, shortcomings and strengths of both players and management, and will be planning on ways to change. That plan may or may not include replacing Roy. But it will be one that in his opinion maximises our chances of staying in the Prem Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Jan 21 3.04pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Sleepwalking nowhere.
Parish is all about staying in the Prem - whatever it takes on a low budget and zero entertainment.
Having no crowds actually shows the football for what it is - very poor in my opinion.
I really did enjoy Pulis football more than this stuff now.
Backs to the wall, hard work, blood and thunder with points earned and a plan in place.
This dross could see us relegated - I think we will avoid it but not through our own merit - more through there being even worse teams than us.
Clueless - and that is right through the Club.
I actually feel sorry for the players.

It does look that way, I agree.

My hope is that the club is currently being run in such a way that Parish can navigate a way forward.

I can guarantee that he does keep his fingers on the pulse of every aspect of our club. He will be well aware of fan sentiment, shortcomings and strengths of both players and management, and will be planning on ways to change.

That plan may or may not include replacing Roy. But it will be one that in his opinion maximises our chances of staying in the Prem

Old, Ungifted and White

southnorwoodhill 27 Jan 21 3.21pm
"Mr Parish, you do realise that many of this current crop of players will all be over 30 and half the team will have their contracts expire at the same time in 2021? That'll be a lot to deal with unless we make a few interim plans to bridge the gap". "Yes, it's all under control Dougie, we've got Sorloth, Meyer, Camarasa, Jach, Reidewald, and hopefully a couple of the kids to break through. Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. We can always extend a few contracts for another year or two if push comes to shove"

southnorwoodhill

27 Jan 21 3.21pm

"Mr Parish, you do realise that many of this current crop of players will all be over 30 and half the team will have their contracts expire at the same time in 2021? That'll be a lot to deal with unless we make a few interim plans to bridge the gap".
"Yes, it's all under control Dougie, we've got Sorloth, Meyer, Camarasa, Jach, Reidewald, and hopefully a couple of the kids to break through. Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. We can always extend a few contracts for another year or two if push comes to shove"

Badger11 Beckenham 27 Jan 21 4.00pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill "Mr Parish, you do realise that many of this current crop of players will all be over 30 and half the team will have their contracts expire at the same time in 2021? That'll be a lot to deal with unless we make a few interim plans to bridge the gap". "Yes, it's all under control Dougie, we've got Sorloth, Meyer, Camarasa, Jach, Reidewald, and hopefully a couple of the kids to break through. Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. We can always extend a few contracts for another year or two if push comes to shove" Might not be that bad. Football is suffering financially I think average players are not going to get the big bucks they once did. The rest of Europe is really suffering more so than us. It could be a buyers market and as our players are not exactly performing well how likely is it they will get a better offer and are we even bothered? Our better players will be looked after no need to break the bank for the rest. Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2021 4.00pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 27 Jan 21 4.00pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

"Mr Parish, you do realise that many of this current crop of players will all be over 30 and half the team will have their contracts expire at the same time in 2021? That'll be a lot to deal with unless we make a few interim plans to bridge the gap".
"Yes, it's all under control Dougie, we've got Sorloth, Meyer, Camarasa, Jach, Reidewald, and hopefully a couple of the kids to break through. Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. We can always extend a few contracts for another year or two if push comes to shove"

Might not be that bad.

Football is suffering financially I think average players are not going to get the big bucks they once did.

The rest of Europe is really suffering more so than us.

It could be a buyers market and as our players are not exactly performing well how likely is it they will get a better offer and are we even bothered?

Our better players will be looked after no need to break the bank for the rest.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2021 4.00pm)

One more point

TheBigToePunt 27 Jan 21 4.20pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez If we get 34 points or less I will run around South Norwood naked before eating my pubic hair all live on camera. For all the complaints about Roy, he is still the only manager we’ve had in the Premier League who has never had us in any real danger of relegation. This isn’t about to change. You can quote me on that. You'll have to check which lockdown tier you're in first. Otherwise, agreed.

TheBigToePunt

27 Jan 21 4.20pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

You'll have to check which lockdown tier you're in first.

Otherwise, agreed.

KAOS In a tree 27 Jan 21 4.23pm
Don't worry, the goals and wins will come again once Conor Wickham is back ...

KAOS

In a tree 27 Jan 21 4.23pm

Don't worry, the goals and wins will come again once Conor Wickham is back ...

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jan 21 5.49pm
Originally posted by KAOS Don't worry, the goals and wins will come again once Conor Wickham is back ... We'll be in National League South by then!

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jan 21 5.49pm

Originally posted by KAOS

Don't worry, the goals and wins will come again once Conor Wickham is back ...

We'll be in National League South by then!

Booted Eagle Bristol 28 Jan 21 9.41am
Originally posted by NEILLO It does look that way, I agree. My hope is that the club is currently being run in such a way that Parish can navigate a way forward. I can guarantee that he does keep his fingers on the pulse of every aspect of our club. He will be well aware of fan sentiment, shortcomings and strengths of both players and management, and will be planning on ways to change. That plan may or may not include replacing Roy. But it will be one that in his opinion maximises our chances of staying in the Prem Does Parish have any business activities outside the club ? If not suspect you are right. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 28 Jan 21 9.41am

Originally posted by NEILLO

It does look that way, I agree.

My hope is that the club is currently being run in such a way that Parish can navigate a way forward.

That plan may or may not include replacing Roy. But it will be one that in his opinion maximises our chances of staying in the Prem

Does Parish have any business activities outside the club ? If not suspect you are right.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle Bristol 28 Jan 21 9.44am
Originally posted by Badger11 Might not be that bad. Football is suffering financially I think average players are not going to get the big bucks they once did. The rest of Europe is really suffering more so than us. It could be a buyers market and as our players are not exactly performing well how likely is it they will get a better offer and are we even bothered? Our better players will be looked after no need to break the bank for the rest. Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2021 4.00pm) Fair points but also might not be the best time to be looking to really strengthen your squad now and probably in the summer : [Link] “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 28 Jan 21 9.44am

Originally posted by Badger11

Might not be that bad.

Football is suffering financially I think average players are not going to get the big bucks they once did.

The rest of Europe is really suffering more so than us.

It could be a buyers market and as our players are not exactly performing well how likely is it they will get a better offer and are we even bothered?

Our better players will be looked after no need to break the bank for the rest.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Jan 2021 4.00pm)

Fair points but also might not be the best time to be looking to really strengthen your squad now and probably in the summer :

[Link]

Pigglelet Deepest Darkest Sussex 28 Jan 21 11.58am
Originally posted by doombear We'll be in National League South by then! Interesting. Let’s see, that will take just five relegations. Wickham will be 32 when the National League South season starts in 2025. Yes that could work. He should be able to stay injured for a few more seasons at that level. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain.

Pigglelet

Deepest Darkest Sussex 28 Jan 21 11.58am

Originally posted by doombear

We'll be in National League South by then!

Interesting. Let’s see, that will take just five relegations. Wickham will be 32 when the National League South season starts in 2025. Yes that could work. He should be able to stay injured for a few more seasons at that level.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain.

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