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AERO 16 Feb 21 11.27pm
Howe will be a risk ,but when you think who is available and would want the job then they are all some kind of risks involved .Chelsea,Spurs and Even Arsenal until lately have all struggled with managerial appointments.

AERO

16 Feb 21 11.27pm

Howe will be a risk ,but when you think who is available and would want the job then they are all some kind of risks involved .Chelsea,Spurs and Even Arsenal until lately have all struggled with managerial appointments.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.40pm
Originally posted by AERO Howe will be a risk ,but when you think who is available and would want the job then they are all some kind of risks involved .Chelsea,Spurs and Even Arsenal until lately have all struggled with managerial appointments. You’re right Any appointment is a risk. I just view Howe as a significant risk for reasons mentioned above. The betting odds are a joke. John Terry second favourite FFS. Closely followed by Lampard, Dyche (no chance), Gollum and get this... Pardew and Michael Carrick. Ridiculous punter baiting. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.40pm

Originally posted by AERO

You’re right

Any appointment is a risk. I just view Howe as a significant risk for reasons mentioned above.

The betting odds are a joke. John Terry second favourite FFS. Closely followed by Lampard, Dyche (no chance), Gollum and get this...

Pardew and Michael Carrick. Ridiculous punter baiting.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

AERO 16 Feb 21 11.43pm
I know what mean he is a risk ,but who do you suggest that would not be ? Thats the hard one ?

AERO

16 Feb 21 11.43pm

I know what mean he is a risk ,but who do you suggest that would not be ? Thats the hard one ?

deleted9 16 Feb 21 11.47pm
Sorry to be a spoiler to all the ‘Roy out now’ brigade but there’s no way Parish will sack Roy now. We’re 11 points off the relegation zone and Roy’s contract is up at the end of the season. With all the financial struggles of the club currently, forking out additional, unnecessary expenses by paying Roy off is something I cannot for the life of me see Parish do.

deleted9

16 Feb 21 11.47pm

Sorry to be a spoiler to all the ‘Roy out now’ brigade but there’s no way Parish will sack Roy now.

We’re 11 points off the relegation zone and Roy’s contract is up at the end of the season. With all the financial struggles of the club currently, forking out additional, unnecessary expenses by paying Roy off is something I cannot for the life of me see Parish do.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 21 11.49pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I tend to agree - although if Roy loses another two games by 2+ goals to nil I’d be surprised if he wasn’t booted. This has happened before and he’s pulled results out of the bag... but we have an old squad with injuries to key players AND more fixtures being played over shorter periods of time. I’m not saying don’t sack him if results stay bad, I just don’t think a new manager, especially Howe, is going to be able to do much with us until those players start to come back. Howe is a massive gamble. He’s a one club manager who dipped his toe with Burnley and failed miserably. Bournemouth is his comfort zone and there’s nothing to suggest to me he’d do well anywhere else. He’s proven himself to be a great manager - anyone who promotes a club of that size on limited budget and keeps them in the PL playing half decent football deserves credit. But he’s unproven outside of that cosy, familiar environment. All that said, who else is there? Dyche will never come here. Certainly not mid season. It’s a really tough one for Parish. I don’t envy him - this could be the time our luck finally runs out With respect I don't subscribe to the view that he failed "Miserably". He signed the likes of Trippier,Mee,Ings and Vokes.I believe Ings and Vokes scored over 40 goals between them to help Burnley back to the PL. He also had some family issues whilst at the club - It was the death of his mother which was the reason he decided to leave Burnley. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 12.12am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 21 11.49pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I tend to agree - although if Roy loses another two games by 2+ goals to nil I’d be surprised if he wasn’t booted. This has happened before and he’s pulled results out of the bag... but we have an old squad with injuries to key players AND more fixtures being played over shorter periods of time.

I’m not saying don’t sack him if results stay bad, I just don’t think a new manager, especially Howe, is going to be able to do much with us until those players start to come back.

Howe is a massive gamble. He’s a one club manager who dipped his toe with Burnley and failed miserably. Bournemouth is his comfort zone and there’s nothing to suggest to me he’d do well anywhere else. He’s proven himself to be a great manager - anyone who promotes a club of that size on limited budget and keeps them in the PL playing half decent football deserves credit. But he’s unproven outside of that cosy, familiar environment.

All that said, who else is there? Dyche will never come here. Certainly not mid season. It’s a really tough one for Parish. I don’t envy him - this could be the time our luck finally runs out

With respect I don't subscribe to the view that he failed "Miserably".
He signed the likes of Trippier,Mee,Ings and Vokes.I believe Ings and Vokes scored over 40 goals between them to help Burnley back to the PL.
He also had some family issues whilst at the club - It was the death of his mother which was the reason he decided to leave Burnley.

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 12.12am)

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.50pm
Originally posted by AERO I know what mean he is a risk ,but who do you suggest that would not be ? Thats the hard one ? No one As I said I agree with you, any appointment is a risk. But obviously there are different levels of risk No such thing as a ‘risk free appointment’ but there certainly is such a thing as more or less risk. I’m sure there are candidates less risky than him but it’s not my job to find them out. Unless he’s been doing his homework though, it appears he has little choice. Dyche won’t come and if he wants to do something now he’s only got Howe and (apparently) John ‘worlds largest chode’ Terry to choose from. Lampard can do one. He’d actually be even riskier than Howe Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.50pm

Originally posted by AERO

I know what mean he is a risk ,but who do you suggest that would not be ? Thats the hard one ?

No one

As I said I agree with you, any appointment is a risk. But obviously there are different levels of risk

No such thing as a ‘risk free appointment’ but there certainly is such a thing as more or less risk. I’m sure there are candidates less risky than him but it’s not my job to find them out.

Unless he’s been doing his homework though, it appears he has little choice. Dyche won’t come and if he wants to do something now he’s only got Howe and (apparently) John ‘worlds largest chode’ Terry to choose from.

Lampard can do one. He’d actually be even riskier than Howe

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

AERO 16 Feb 21 11.52pm
Well if it is Howe he wants ? he will have to move soon as I wouldn't imagine he will be free come next season.

AERO

16 Feb 21 11.52pm

Well if it is Howe he wants ? he will have to move soon as I wouldn't imagine he will be free come next season.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.53pm
Originally posted by Willo With respect I don't subscribe to the view that he failed "Miserably". He signed the likes of Triper,Mee,Ings and Vokes and Vokes was Burnley's top scorer when they got promoted back to the PL He also had some family issues whilst at the club. Maybe so, but he still failed, and he’s unproven anywhere other than Bournemouth. He would also be inheriting a defensive line with a higher average age than the local retirement home, zero pace and maximum porosity. Not good for any manager let alone ones not best known for their defensive qualities. Certainly not Lampard. He’s basically Pardew 2.0 Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.53pm

Originally posted by Willo

With respect I don't subscribe to the view that he failed "Miserably".
He signed the likes of Triper,Mee,Ings and Vokes and Vokes was Burnley's top scorer when they got promoted back to the PL
He also had some family issues whilst at the club.

Maybe so, but he still failed, and he’s unproven anywhere other than Bournemouth. He would also be inheriting a defensive line with a higher average age than the local retirement home, zero pace and maximum porosity.

Not good for any manager let alone ones not best known for their defensive qualities. Certainly not Lampard. He’s basically Pardew 2.0

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.55pm
Originally posted by AERO Well if it is Howe he wants ? he will have to move soon as I wouldn't imagine he will be free come next season. Seems that way, although who knows - all paper rumour currently. If JT is no2 on the list I think for now it’s probably completely made up. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.55pm

Originally posted by AERO

Well if it is Howe he wants ? he will have to move soon as I wouldn't imagine he will be free come next season.

Seems that way, although who knows - all paper rumour currently. If JT is no2 on the list I think for now it’s probably completely made up.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

thai-eagle chiang mai 17 Feb 21 4.38am
We have been absolute rubbish for a while now, but a change in set-up (ditch the 4-4-2) is more important. And play players where they belong (ex. Eze). Let us see where that brings us before talking about welcoming a new manager.

thai-eagle

chiang mai 17 Feb 21 4.38am

We have been absolute rubbish for a while now, but a change in set-up (ditch the 4-4-2) is more important. And play players where they belong (ex. Eze). Let us see where that brings us before talking about welcoming a new manager.

sprites Auckland 17 Feb 21 4.54am
He had Bournemouth playing awesome at one point. Things happen for different reasons. Yes, they went down. But I'd still take him.

sprites

Auckland 17 Feb 21 4.54am

He had Bournemouth playing awesome at one point. Things happen for different reasons. Yes, they went down. But I'd still take him.

steven_t92 Orpington 17 Feb 21 6.33am
I can understand people saying he relegated Bournemouth, but he also got them to the PL from L1 in the first place. They went down because the funds burnt out, they never had any real money and any they did have got put into players they thought they could make a profit on. When Bournemouth first came up they played brilliant attacking football and had a hardworking defence. Imagine that system with our attacking players. I dont see any better options out there right now apart from unproven championship managers and Lampard, dont tell me theyre a safer bet than Howe.

steven_t92

Orpington 17 Feb 21 6.33am

I can understand people saying he relegated Bournemouth, but he also got them to the PL from L1 in the first place. They went down because the funds burnt out, they never had any real money and any they did have got put into players they thought they could make a profit on.

When Bournemouth first came up they played brilliant attacking football and had a hardworking defence. Imagine that system with our attacking players.

I dont see any better options out there right now apart from unproven championship managers and Lampard, dont tell me theyre a safer bet than Howe.

KAOS In a tree 17 Feb 21 7.32am
Originally posted by Badger11 If true it's a bit worrying, team that can't defend hires a manger whose teams can't defend. Exactly. The desire to see more goals must extend to conceding loads then ...

KAOS

In a tree 17 Feb 21 7.32am

Originally posted by Badger11

If true it's a bit worrying, team that can't defend hires a manger whose teams can't defend.

Exactly. The desire to see more goals must extend to conceding loads then ...

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 17 Feb 21 7.55am
A break from the game may have done Howe some good. But if you think that Hodgson looks clueless on the touchline and seemingly resigned to defeat and unable to get a response from his players, that was Eddie Howe at the end of last season. I think whoever comes in, unless it's a big step up opportunity, is immediately going to be putting their reputation on the line due to the rebuilding required. And there's no guarantee that funds will be available to get that done properly. Then there's the question over the competence of the people responsible for recruitment. I guess it's unlikely to be dull anyway Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 17 Feb 21 7.55am

A break from the game may have done Howe some good.

But if you think that Hodgson looks clueless on the touchline and seemingly resigned to defeat and unable to get a response from his players, that was Eddie Howe at the end of last season.

I think whoever comes in, unless it's a big step up opportunity, is immediately going to be putting their reputation on the line due to the rebuilding required. And there's no guarantee that funds will be available to get that done properly. Then there's the question over the competence of the people responsible for recruitment.

I guess it's unlikely to be dull anyway

Old, Ungifted and White

Spiderman Horsham 17 Feb 21 7.56am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Eddie Howe got Bournemouth relegated. No thanks. Roy's choices have become frustrating, but the real bigger problem has been a lack of signings. We might well be unable to spend more, but that is not Hogson's fault. The injuries to Schlupp, Tomkins and Ferguson have been a big blow plus the insane sale of Wan Bissaka and the failure of our big signings Benteke and Sakho. Roy will be scapegoated if we go down, but he is only a small part of the problem. Agree, although we have had a creative midfielder at the club who was not played by Roy, Camarasa. Roy is not totally to blame but is not blameless

Spiderman

Horsham 17 Feb 21 7.56am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Eddie Howe got Bournemouth relegated. No thanks.
Roy's choices have become frustrating, but the real bigger problem has been a lack of signings.

We might well be unable to spend more, but that is not Hogson's fault.

The injuries to Schlupp, Tomkins and Ferguson have been a big blow plus the insane sale of Wan Bissaka and the failure of our big signings Benteke and Sakho.

Roy will be scapegoated if we go down, but he is only a small part of the problem.

Agree, although we have had a creative midfielder at the club who was not played by Roy, Camarasa. Roy is not totally to blame but is not blameless

Spiderman Horsham 17 Feb 21 7.59am
Originally posted by NEILLO A break from the game may have done Howe some good. But if you think that Hodgson looks clueless on the touchline and seemingly resigned to defeat and unable to get a response from his players, that was Eddie Howe at the end of last season. I think whoever comes in, unless it's a big step up opportunity, is immediately going to be putting their reputation on the line due to the rebuilding required. And there's no guarantee that funds will be available to get that done properly. Then there's the question over the competence of the people responsible for recruitment. I guess it's unlikely to be dull anyway Surely any manager coming in will have had some sort of guarantee regarding spending? If not they must be desperate for a job which is exactly what we don’t want. Personally I don’t want Howe but if he is the new man, t will, of course get behind him

Spiderman

Horsham 17 Feb 21 7.59am

Originally posted by NEILLO

A break from the game may have done Howe some good.

But if you think that Hodgson looks clueless on the touchline and seemingly resigned to defeat and unable to get a response from his players, that was Eddie Howe at the end of last season.

I guess it's unlikely to be dull anyway

Surely any manager coming in will have had some sort of guarantee regarding spending? If not they must be desperate for a job which is exactly what we don’t want.
Personally I don’t want Howe but if he is the new man, t will, of course get behind him

Painter Croydon 17 Feb 21 8.25am
Originally posted by Willo With respect I don't subscribe to the view that he failed "Miserably". He signed the likes of Trippier,Mee,Ings and Vokes.I believe Ings and Vokes scored over 40 goals between them to help Burnley back to the PL. He also had some family issues whilst at the club - It was the death of his mother which was the reason he decided to leave Burnley. Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 12.12am) Using the same parameter of past managers record. Roy got Fulham to a European Cup final, got nowhere near that with us. You can only go on latest record and Howes isnt great.

Painter

Croydon 17 Feb 21 8.25am

Originally posted by Willo

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 12.12am)

Using the same parameter of past managers record. Roy got Fulham to a European Cup final, got nowhere near that with us. You can only go on latest record and Howes isnt great.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 21 8.43am
Originally posted by Painter Using the same parameter of past managers record. Roy got Fulham to a European Cup final, got nowhere near that with us. You can only go on latest record and Howes isnt great. I was responding to the charge that Howe "Failed miserably" at Burnley. Howe's record in taking Bournemouth from the lower reaches to the PL and keeping them there for a few seasons is worthy of credit. They played some delightful football along the way and the hospitality that was afforded to me in their 'Bubbles' champagne bar on more than one occasion was splendid ! Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 8.54am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 21 8.43am

Originally posted by Painter

Using the same parameter of past managers record. Roy got Fulham to a European Cup final, got nowhere near that with us. You can only go on latest record and Howes isnt great.

I was responding to the charge that Howe "Failed miserably" at Burnley.

Howe's record in taking Bournemouth from the lower reaches to the PL and keeping them there for a few seasons is worthy of credit.
They played some delightful football along the way and the hospitality that was afforded to me in their 'Bubbles' champagne bar on more than one occasion was splendid !

Edited by Willo (17 Feb 2021 8.54am)

beak croydon 17 Feb 21 8.47am
Originally posted by Gribbo Eddie Howe's odds to become the next Palace manager have shortened drastically today following a formal approach by the club. Roy is on his final chance next Monday evening. Another spineless performance like the last and apparently he will be gone as early as Tuesday morning. Jason Tindall will join as his assistant having recently left his post at Bournemouth. You heard it here first!!! Let's hope he manages the ladies team.

beak

croydon 17 Feb 21 8.47am

Originally posted by Gribbo

Eddie Howe's odds to become the next Palace manager have shortened drastically today following a formal approach by the club. Roy is on his final chance next Monday evening. Another spineless performance like the last and apparently he will be gone as early as Tuesday morning.

Jason Tindall will join as his assistant having recently left his post at Bournemouth.

You heard it here first!!!

Let's hope he manages the ladies team.

monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 17 Feb 21 8.57am
I can’t see us sacking Roy, not when we’re a handful of points from safety, I’m sure no matter how bad it might get, as in getting thumped by Brighton and beaten by Fulham, SP will stick with him to grind out the points we need and then let him walk away in the summer

monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 17 Feb 21 8.57am

I can’t see us sacking Roy, not when we’re a handful of points from safety, I’m sure no matter how bad it might get, as in getting thumped by Brighton and beaten by Fulham, SP will stick with him to grind out the points we need and then let him walk away in the summer

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