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est1905 28 Apr 21 5.37pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Pardew's win ratio was 40%. I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.
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28 Apr 21 5.37pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Pardew's win ratio was 40%.

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

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YT Oxford 28 Apr 21 5.46pm
Originally posted by est1905 I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though. If only Palace losses were rationed! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 28 Apr 21 5.46pm

Originally posted by est1905

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

If only Palace losses were rationed!

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 28 Apr 21 5.53pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC He's not been here 8 years yet. Thank you AS. You're right of course, don't know what I was thinking. Must have been the funny mushrooms I had for lunch.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC

He's not been here 8 years yet.

Thank you AS. You're right of course, don't know what I was thinking. Must have been the funny mushrooms I had for lunch.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Apr 21 7.11pm
funny what points stats can prove. i tend to look at the table over 38 games...thats the most telling. if i was to use stats i would compare our net spend against the other clubs in the league (that revolves around money spent) ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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funny what points stats can prove.

i tend to look at the table over 38 games...thats the most telling.

if i was to use stats i would compare our net spend against the other clubs in the league (that revolves around money spent)

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Apr 21 7.19pm
Win ratios can be deceptive. This season, Hodgson's win ratio in the league is 31.25%. The same number of points (38 pts)can be attained with win ratios of 37.5% (12 wins and 2 draws) and 9.375% (3 wins and 29 draws and NO defeats). A far more accurate measurement is points per game. I'll leave others to work them one out. I just wanted to show how meanngless win ratios can be. A classic example from the old days is our Division 2 league title win in 1978/79 when we had a win ratio of 45.24% (w 19 D 19 and L4). We would ahve attained the same points tally (57) with 28 wins 1 draw and 13 defeats = a win ratio of 66.67%. Edited by doombear (28 Apr 2021 7.20pm) Edited by doombear (28 Apr 2021 7.20pm)
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Too far from Selhurst Park 28 Apr 21 7.19pm

Win ratios can be deceptive. This season, Hodgson's win ratio in the league is 31.25%. The same number of points (38 pts)can be attained with win ratios of 37.5% (12 wins and 2 draws) and 9.375% (3 wins and 29 draws and NO defeats).

A far more accurate measurement is points per game. I'll leave others to work them one out. I just wanted to show how meanngless win ratios can be. A classic example from the old days is our Division 2 league title win in 1978/79 when we had a win ratio of 45.24% (w 19 D 19 and L4). We would ahve attained the same points tally (57) with 28 wins 1 draw and 13 defeats = a win ratio of 66.67%.

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cryrst The garden of England 28 Apr 21 7.38pm
Originally posted by doombear Win ratios can be deceptive. This season, Hodgson's win ratio in the league is 31.25%. The same number of points (38 pts)can be attained with win ratios of 37.5% (12 wins and 2 draws) and 9.375% (3 wins and 29 draws and NO defeats). A far more accurate measurement is points per game. I'll leave others to work them one out. I just wanted to show how meanngless win ratios can be. A classic example from the old days is our Division 2 league title win in 1978/79 when we had a win ratio of 45.24% (w 19 D 19 and L4). We would ahve attained the same points tally (57) with 28 wins 1 draw and 13 defeats = a win ratio of 66.67%. Edited by doombear (28 Apr 2021 7.20pm) Edited by doombear (28 Apr 2021 7.20pm) And we went on to be the team of the 80s.....
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Originally posted by doombear

Edited by doombear (28 Apr 2021 7.20pm)

And we went on to be the team of the 80s.....

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jeeagles 28 Apr 21 8.32pm
Originally posted by est1905 I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though. This whole thread isn't the strongest of arguments to use against Roy as all managers has faced different situations. That said. I think Pardew has a worse starting point, and a 40% win would equate to around 45 points, and 33% would be 39ish.
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28 Apr 21 8.32pm

Originally posted by est1905

I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though.

This whole thread isn't the strongest of arguments to use against Roy as all managers has faced different situations.

That said. I think Pardew has a worse starting point, and a 40% win would equate to around 45 points, and 33% would be 39ish.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 28 Apr 21 8.50pm
Originally posted by CharlesPaterson Mullery 32% - sacked Taylor 35% - sacked Francis 36% - sacked After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team) 1.23 points per games/47 points per season in the Premier League. Excellent statistics. As much as I want Roy to go because I’m bored to death, it’s stats like this which will keep him in the job for another season.
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The Cronx 28 Apr 21 8.50pm

Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

1.23 points per games/47 points per season in the Premier League. Excellent statistics. As much as I want Roy to go because I’m bored to death, it’s stats like this which will keep him in the job for another season.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 28 Apr 21 8.50pm
Originally posted by CharlesPaterson Mullery 32% - sacked Taylor 35% - sacked Francis 36% - sacked After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team) 193 points from 156 games is decent over the best part of four seasons in the Premier league especially against the backdrop of a profit in the transfer market.
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Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

193 points from 156 games is decent over the best part of four seasons in the Premier league especially against the backdrop of a profit in the transfer market.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 30 Apr 21 9.41pm
Originally posted by CharlesPaterson Mullery 32% - sacked Taylor 35% - sacked Francis 36% - sacked After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team) i am not old enough to remember mullery, but certainly remember taylor & francis. win % are all well & good but you cant compare roy to those wasters. you may not like his style of football...but respect what he has done in 4 years as what he has done, many would have failed to do. if you had actually watched francis & taylor teams you would be begging for roy to sign a new contract! ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 30 Apr 21 9.41pm

Originally posted by CharlesPaterson

Mullery 32% - sacked
Taylor 35% - sacked
Francis 36% - sacked

After yet another defeat, this brings Roy's win record at Palace to P156 W52 D37 L67 - just 33% win ratio

Hard to make comparisons I know but he's only slightly ahead of Mullery (who didn't have the luxury of a Zaha in the team)

i am not old enough to remember mullery, but certainly remember taylor & francis.

win % are all well & good but you cant compare roy to those wasters.

you may not like his style of football...but respect what he has done in 4 years as what he has done, many would have failed to do.

if you had actually watched francis & taylor teams you would be begging for roy to sign a new contract!

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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southnorwoodhill 01 May 21 9.42am
Originally posted by est1905 I imagine his loss ration was massively higher than Roys though. More Hodgson myth making. The numbers are quite close - Pardew around 45% games lost, Hodgson around 43%.
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01 May 21 9.42am