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Painter Flag Croydon 30 Oct 21 2.02pm

Interesting character, glad he no longer has any involvement in running the club.

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TGHCPFC316 Flag Morden 30 Oct 21 2.49pm

I like him mostly, loves Palace and tried his best for us weather he failed or succeeded I commend him for that, I just think he acts way to salty towards Parish, like it didn't go your way Simon get over it and stop having little niggles at SP every now and then. Other then that nothing against the bloke.

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 30 Oct 21 3.14pm

Originally posted by Zaha127

I am sure many of you are aware of Simon Jordan (is on talksport Monday to Friday 10am to 1pm)

What are your views of him? Your views of him during his spell at the club? I know he famously said that he will not return back to Selhurst Park (watch a game) because he felt the current owners or owner stole Palace from him.

I think the guy does talk a lot of sense definitely the best person on Talksport. But if he was still here I cannot see how Palace would be an established EPL side as they are now.

He did his best, he's obviously learnt a lot since then.... I like the bloke.

I feel that if he had the investment today, would fit in better with the likes of Textor.

Edited by Vaibow (30 Oct 2021 3.20pm)

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 30 Oct 21 3.24pm

I have a couple of stories about SJ. And also his thwat of a brother Dominic.
I think he is full of confidence in certain situations, but doesn't make real friends easily.

The Pocket Phone Shop was where SJ sailed close to the wind as far as tying people into long-term phone contracts. He jumped ship at the right time, and into Palace.
Found severely lacking in 'people skills', along with DJ (hanging around SJ like a bad smell). SJ plshed off a lot of workers, from programme sellers, to stewards, to suppliers and other football club owners.
Thought he was invincible.
SP came and took his toys for tuppence, because SJ didn't know how to treat people.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 30 Oct 21 3.27pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I read his book some time ago but remember getting the overriding feeling he must be a nightmare person to work with or around and that in some instances he was only telling half the story.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (30 Oct 2021 9.05am)

I met him when he was in charge of Palace appeared like a nice guy but liked to be center of attention.

Half stories in what way? if any of what was in the book regarding others was not true these people would of taken action against it.

His problems was no experience and believed he could change the corrupt system by calling the people out which was his downfall in the end (If he was to get back into some involvement you would expect he has learn a lot so now would be in a much better place)

He is still a Palace fan and if SP etc sold up I expect you would see him return so I understand his stance on the matter they did screw him over to gt the club for free (Some will say that is business yes but these are suppose to be fans saving a club)

 

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crystal-purley Flag Purley 30 Oct 21 3.37pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You mean Phil Alexander aka Teflon Phil the supposed Chief Executive Officer under quite a few owners including Simon Jordan and who was allegedly feeding confidential financial information to Parish whilst still in Jordan's employ.

Oops. Cheers Midland

 

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Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 30 Oct 21 5.03pm

Jordan? Who gives a f we’ve just beaten Man City two nil

 
rikz Flag Croydon 30 Oct 21 5.42pm

Saved the club, was right in most of what he said but tried taking on football and was never going to win, it he played the game we might have got cahill and he might still be in charge now. He was his own downfall

 
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Oct 21 6.47pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

I met him when he was in charge of Palace appeared like a nice guy but liked to be center of attention.

Half stories in what way? if any of what was in the book regarding others was not true these people would of taken action against it.

His problems was no experience and believed he could change the corrupt system by calling the people out which was his downfall in the end (If he was to get back into some involvement you would expect he has learn a lot so now would be in a much better place)

He is still a Palace fan and if SP etc sold up I expect you would see him return so I understand his stance on the matter they did screw him over to gt the club for free (Some will say that is business yes but these are suppose to be fans saving a club)

Saving the club yes saving Jordan not their problem.

I don't wish him ill but ultimately he failed as an owner where as our current owners seem to be avoiding the mistakes he made.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 21 6.54pm

Originally posted by rikz

Saved the club, was right in most of what he said but tried taking on football and was never going to win, it he played the game we might have got cahill and he might still be in charge now. He was his own downfall

Cahill’s agent used us for the Cahill to Everton deal. Or did Jordan’s mate Theo Paphitis use us? I did think signing Dean Ashton towards the end of the season would’ve saved us but I think his manage at Crewe, Dario Gradi, advised him to go to Norwich. They were always goi g to be relegated, and were, with us to on the last day of the season.

 

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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 30 Oct 21 8.54pm

The futures bright the chairman’s orange.

 
sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Oct 21 8.57pm

As a pundit, he's outstanding. His views on football generally are on the money more often than not and he says a lot of stuff that needs saying but no one in the game will say it.

As a businessman, complete shyster but shrewd enough to sell his company at the top of the market, though I suspect that involved a large measure of luck as much as judgment.

As a Palace owner, other than saving us I really couldn't stand him. But that's just me. I don't warm to flamboyance and egomania. Others do, and fair enough.

With regards to having his pocket picked by Parish, Jordan's last year running the club was an exercise in naivety and underlined my second point (about his wealth generally owing as much to luck as judgment). The road he went down with structured finance and loans was only ever going to end one way.

What Parish did to Jordan is what any competent businessman does to an incompetent one. Jordan's witless financial decision-making led to him being the architect of his own downfall.

I will say this. The game is better off with Jordan's voice being heard, at least somewhere, than not being heard at all.

 

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nead1 Flag 30 Oct 21 9.13pm

I completely agree about his lack of judgement on a whole range of issues; amongst those, and pretty much the first thing he did was to get rid of Steve Coppell and also, on the playing side, recruit Neil Ruddock - a completely disaster and I would guess a very expensive mistake. Subsequently, his hiring of various managers like Trevor Francis was poor as well.
On the financial side of things, he again displayed terrible judgement and, from what I recall, seemed to hope Parish and maybe others, would come in as investors but leaving him as Chairman. Can't say I am surprised they didn't find that a very attractive proposition.
Maybe his heart was in the right place but his judgement was certainly not. He also strikes me as quite bitter about Palace under Parish and the strides that have been made. I know who I would prefer to be in charge!

 
rikz Flag Croydon 30 Oct 21 10.03pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Cahill’s agent used us for the Cahill to Everton deal. Or did Jordan’s mate Theo Paphitis use us? I did think signing Dean Ashton towards the end of the season would’ve saved us but I think his manage at Crewe, Dario Gradi, advised him to go to Norwich. They were always goi g to be relegated, and were, with us to on the last day of the season.

Heard the rumours he was never comming to us anyway, even if true he still upset the agents, didn't he or one of the big agents at the time just refuse to work with palace ? Right in what he says about them but it is what it is, only people who lost out was us as a club.

 
davidmyboy Flag 30 Oct 21 10.19pm

Have a lot of time for SJ on Talk sport he makes a lot of sense and is good listening. When he bought into Palace he was passionate but got taken for a ride and got stuffed big time by Big Ron. He is part of our history put his money where his mouth was and paid the price . he still deserves respect even if you think he got it wrong. No

 
Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 30 Oct 21 11.09pm

Anybody prepared to lose £32M of an approx £38M fortune on Palace gets my respect.

Also, I think SJ sees in SP a slightly more successful & shrewd mirror image of himself - hence the dislike (as well as being tucked up for 1p in the £1 on the £32M debt of course).

 
Joseph Paxton Flag Lancing 31 Oct 21 12.19pm

He was never a 'go along to get along' type of operator, more adept at pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes, which is why as a former owner, he makes the perfect pundit and presents a view of the national game shorn of all the tinsel and ribbons and spin.

When he was owner, I admired his stance in many ways against all the jackals that tried to feed off the club. It wasn't just agents and bolshie players, he also had a few run-ins with the FA and wrote some choice articles about them in ongoing spat when he had a column in The Guardian (?). Upshot was that he became quite unpopular among the establishment and when the club became highly leveraged he walked on a knife-edge.

It was a shock when we went into administration no doubt and would have been interesting to see how the club would have developed with his plans. My take - I think we would have remained a yoyo club for many years due to lack of outside investment and new owners have managed to tackle this, hopefully for a healthy future.

It was an interesting crusade that SJ fought in the noughties and makes him a fascinating and credible pundit. His critique of the breakaway league and the FA due diligence on owners have been highly illuminating in recent months. If he comes back to part ownership of a sports club in future, I don't think it will be here again.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 31 Oct 21 1.08pm

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Oct 21 2.09pm

one of us.

Jordan is an Eagle.

 

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Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 31 Oct 21 3.54pm

On talk sport he comes across with some excellent views and he obviously has feelings for the club. He started with a bum move regarding Steve Coppell and putting Alan Smith in charge.

Who signed Fatty Ruddock? Who having already down played Peter Taylor gave him a Job? Who insisted he owned the ground?

He probably now understands that as you get older you usually get wiser!

Took our club out of administration.

Wore a colourful red jacket.

A t*** for a brother.

Took Dowie to court.

 
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