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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 30 Dec 21 12.08pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I can very much see his value to the squad - such an adaptable player who can play in many positions. His goal against Norwich was really top drawer - to go for the far post from where he hit it was an amazing strike.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 30 Dec 21 12.56pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Schlupp has been a good signing for us, but he is at a crossroads in his Palace career right now. If his contract expired tomorrow I'm not sure he'd get a new one.

Firstly, he needs better luck with injuries. At his age they take more of a toll and the club will be less inclined to wait for him than they would for a younger player with eight or ten years of service left in them.

Secondly, he needs to find a way to fit in to how we now play. Schlupp is a tremendous athlete with a powerful shot, and when playing on the right for Hodgson showed a gift for timing off-the-ball runs into the box. Vieira requires a totally different set of skills from his midfielders, who need to be able to use the ball efficiently in tight spaces. In that respect, Schlupp has been probably the least successful of the old guard in converting to the new style.

Apart from Ayew and Mitchell, Vieira likes players to play on their 'wrong' side and cut inside, but playing Schlupp on the right of the midfield three seems not only unsuited to his strengths, but almost a showcase for his weaknesses. He struggles to play sharp, one and two touch stuff in small areas, and whilst the winger in him wants to run at players, the centre of the pitch is far more congested and when he gets to carry the ball forward he just bundles into crowds time and again.

Schlupp isn't going to get in on the left wing ahead of Zaha, Edouard or Eze. He could be a good left back in our system (Mitchell surely can't play every single game), and is possibly worth keeping just for his flexibility, but to get the best out of him, Vieira would have to not only play Schlupp on the left side of the midfield three, but also allow him to be less involved in build up play and more focused on bursting into the box in the inside left channel. That's quite a shift in tactics and I'm not sure Schlupp is a good enough player to justify it.

Back to the bench for Schluppy once everyone is available I'm afraid.

 

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View mars's Profile mars Flag Folkestone 30 Dec 21 1.52pm Send a Private Message to mars Add mars as a friend

Comes over as a top guy on tv interviews and sounds like a true born and bred Englishman though presumably with Dutch and Ghanaian ancestry.
Never let us down and I like him too!

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Dec 21 2.01pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

IMO Schlupp is a valuable squad player. With both Wilf and Jordan at Afcon, he is likely to get more minutes over the next 6 weeks. I'd like to see him get a 2 year extension.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 30 Dec 21 2.04pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Schlupp has been a good signing for us, but he is at a crossroads in his Palace career right now. If his contract expired tomorrow I'm not sure he'd get a new one.

Firstly, he needs better luck with injuries. At his age they take more of a toll and the club will be less inclined to wait for him than they would for a younger player with eight or ten years of service left in them.

Secondly, he needs to find a way to fit in to how we now play. Schlupp is a tremendous athlete with a powerful shot, and when playing on the right for Hodgson showed a gift for timing off-the-ball runs into the box. Vieira requires a totally different set of skills from his midfielders, who need to be able to use the ball efficiently in tight spaces. In that respect, Schlupp has been probably the least successful of the old guard in converting to the new style.

Apart from Ayew and Mitchell, Vieira likes players to play on their 'wrong' side and cut inside, but playing Schlupp on the right of the midfield three seems not only unsuited to his strengths, but almost a showcase for his weaknesses. He struggles to play sharp, one and two touch stuff in small areas, and whilst the winger in him wants to run at players, the centre of the pitch is far more congested and when he gets to carry the ball forward he just bundles into crowds time and again.

Schlupp isn't going to get in on the left wing ahead of Zaha, Edouard or Eze. He could be a good left back in our system (Mitchell surely can't play every single game), and is possibly worth keeping just for his flexibility, but to get the best out of him, Vieira would have to not only play Schlupp on the left side of the midfield three, but also allow him to be less involved in build up play and more focused on bursting into the box in the inside left channel. That's quite a shift in tactics and I'm not sure Schlupp is a good enough player to justify it.

Back to the bench for Schluppy once everyone is available I'm afraid.

No issues with that. Not everyone can start every week, and when everyone is fit we don't need him to.

Keep himself fit and contribute when we need him is more than enough.

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 30 Dec 21 3.17pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

He's an imside left, has great pace and power to break the defensive line, wicked left foot, but can only play as an atracking left sided midfielder, that plays to his strengths, in other positions he tends to go missing; like Ayew and Kouyate, great squad players

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 31 Dec 21 8.32am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

He needs more game time, which he will get now…

At Afcon?

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 31 Dec 21 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Two sides to the coin on the Amazon Prime matches, Leeds away and the recent Norwich home game. Barely registered against Leeds. That said it was a poor performance all round. In my opinion Hughes should of started and Gallagher further forward. Leeds were fragile and we needed to go at them attacking wise. Norwich game he looked far better, much more involved and showed his use. With him not going to the AFCON, whereas Ayew and Wilf are, he will no doubt get some extra game time and deserves it based on the last performance.

 


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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 31 Dec 21 2.06pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

At Afcon?

I thought he wasn’t selected by his native country….

 

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