happy with the points total to date, but we have Newcastle and Spurs next so let's see how things look at the end of October.

We have ridden our luck quite a bit in recent games, and these things tend to turn over time.

Then it is Burnley away and Everton at home. 2 massive games.

I think mid Nov we will have a clearly picture of where will may finish this season.

You seem surprised don’t forget how long Roy’s been our manager, we’ve also had Sam ‘respect the point’ Allardyce and Tony Pulis in charge. All have done a great job for us, but they’re also all known for organisation and defence first

When you look at the games, we should have beaten Forest but had a very depleted side. We should have got something at Villa but were cheated by a dodgy penalty.
In general, the results have been about par.

We will have a better indicator of our position come January.
We will certainly have a torrid time for the coming weeks with so many star players out.

Newcastle away and Spurs could put a big dent in our goal difference. We just need to try and keep it respectable until our new treatment table coffee morning club loses some of its members.

with 4 VERY poor sides at the bottom i think we only need another 3 points to confirm safety.

Happy with the start we've made esp with the injuries. Lucky Guehi and Anderson have stayed fit as they are as brilliant as the 2 numpties up front are cr@p!

Guehi wasn't fit for the Aston Villa game where we turned a late 1-0 lead into a 1-3 defeat via a defensive collapse and a poor refereeing decision.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Of course, there have only been eight other teams who have been in the division for the same number of games since then and they will tend to be the more successful and higher-scoring ones. Man U, with 32, are next - down to Spurs and Man City on 15.

Everton have the most draws in total over these years, 100, followed by us and Man u on 95