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cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 18 Mar 24 7.39am

I'm not sure they will get the same. Everton have already been punished for the previous year and it will be argued that since this is a rolling situation the previous year plays into the current situation and they shouldn't be punished 'twice'. Not saying I agree with this but that might be argued.
So Forest 6pts and Everton maybe 3pts.

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 24 10.08am

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

I'm not sure they will get the same. Everton have already been punished for the previous year and it will be argued that since this is a rolling situation the previous year plays into the current situation and they shouldn't be punished 'twice'. Not saying I agree with this but that might be argued.
So Forest 6pts and Everton maybe 3pts.

Everton are not being punished twice as you say, they have been punished for the 1st offence, committed another one the same, so they are to be punished for that separate offence, also, they have not been helping the inquiry & have been actively hindering it(Source: bbc/sky).

As i understand it, the FA/inquiry haven't even looked at their case yet as they were dealing with Forest's. At least forest actively helped their inquiry & were open to a 'plan' set by the them, what points deduction they get will be, interesting to say the least.

Edited by eagleman13 (18 Mar 2024 10.10am)

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Mar 24 1.33pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Everton are not being punished twice as you say, they have been punished for the 1st offence, committed another one the same, so they are to be punished for that separate offence, also, they have not been helping the inquiry & have been actively hindering it(Source: bbc/sky).

As i understand it, the FA/inquiry haven't even looked at their case yet as they were dealing with Forest's. At least forest actively helped their inquiry & were open to a 'plan' set by the them, what points deduction they get will be, interesting to say the least.

Edited by eagleman13 (18 Mar 2024 10.10am)

Actually they should get more than 6 points as this is their second offence, like a speeding points accumulate. Not much of a deterrent otherwise.

 


One more point

AERO Flag 18 Mar 24 4.03pm

Forest get a 6 points deduction then .That makes it interesting at the bottom

 

Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 18 Mar 24 4.24pm

Originally posted by AERO

Forest get a 6 points deduction then .That makes it interesting at the bottom

Thought it was four points ?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Mar 24 4.35pm

Yup 4 point deduction, it was 6 points but was reduced to 4 because Forest co-operated with the inquiry.

However the report says that Forest will appeal which doesn't make sense surely the commission should have said 4 points if you accept the verdict and 6 points if you appeal and fail.

It seems to me they are rewarding Forest before the club has agreed to accept the verdict.

 


One more point

Dubai Eagle Flag 19 Mar 24 6.52am

For sure there needs to be some fine tuning of the guidelines, its not realistic to have a situation where at every profit & sustainability hearing / decision the immediate "go to" move is to appeal in the hope of getting a better outcome without any jeopardy.

Originally posted by Badger11

Yup 4 point deduction, it was 6 points but was reduced to 4 because Forest co-operated with the inquiry.

However the report says that Forest will appeal which doesn't make sense surely the commission should have said 4 points if you accept the verdict and 6 points if you appeal and fail.

It seems to me they are rewarding Forest before the club has agreed to accept the verdict.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 20 Apr 24 5.45pm

Burnley are now actually a decent squad. Capable of beating anybody on a good day.

does anybody know why the Current Burnley is so much better than Mid-winter ?

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 20 Apr 24 6.59pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Burnley are now actually a decent squad. Capable of beating anybody on a good day.

does anybody know why the Current Burnley is so much better than Mid-winter ?

Maybe Kompany has finally given in and they’re mixing it up a bit and errors from all that tippy tappy passing out from the back have dried up

Edited by monkey (20 Apr 2024 7.00pm)

 

Laszlo Panaflex Flag 20 Apr 24 10.06pm

Their uptick in form has coincided with them dropping James Trafford...

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Apr 24 11.58pm

Originally posted by Laszlo Panaflex

Their uptick in form has coincided with them dropping James Trafford...

It is true that since James Trafford's last game, Burnley have collected 9 pts from 6 games however whether the upturn is solely down to the decision to remove the lad from the 'Firing line' is of course open to debate.
His replacement Arijanet Muric has been responsible for a couple of costly bloopers in recent games !

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 May 24 5.03pm

goodbye Burnley, send our love to Millwall

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 May 24 5.05pm

goodbye Burnley, send our love to Millwall

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Jacey Flag 04 May 24 5.19pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

goodbye Burnley, send our love to Millwall

And Luton surely to join them on their journey down to the Championship,together with the equally hopeless Sheffield.
All so hopeless,that even Mr.Hodgson may have kept us up with his equally hopeless Royball!!

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 04 May 24 7.15pm

And there was me thinking Burnley were going to make a fight of it these last few games -.-'

 

esox lucius Flag Deal 04 May 24 8.52pm

Think there only hope is to try and remain within 3 points of Forest, then beat them on the last day.

 

eaglesdare Flag 04 May 24 9.25pm

Originally posted by esox lucius

Think there only hope is to try and remain within 3 points of Forest, then beat them on the last day.

Ah I think the goal difference is like an extra point to forest now?

 

Dubai Eagle Flag 05 May 24 6.50am

I would imagine that Burnley, Luton & Forest all wake up, check the news outlets in the hope that Everton go into administration & immediately get another points deduction.

Of course there are still profit & sustainability proceedings going on with Forest & Everton (Appeals & details to clarify) so nothing is sure until they are completed but at the moment it dosent feel like any of those will be severe enough to have points deductions of the amount required to save either Burnley or Luton.

 

cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 05 May 24 8.23am

Does Kompany get an invite to the 'Great player,s*** manager' lounge or is that harsh given the style with which they were promoted. He'll get another job I'm sure - anticipating a mutual agreement parting when the season ends.

 

Dubai Eagle Flag 05 May 24 8.47am

I think Burnley recognise what they are & how unattractive a proposition they are to any prospective managerial candidates available - if Burnley seriously thought that they could do better they probably would have cut ties with Vincent Kompany during December when it was obvious that every game until the end of the season was going to be part of a relegation struggle that might not end well -

He got them promoted & he has stayed with them throughout this season when in all probability he would likely have had opportunities to jump ship -

Its my opinion that the club will decide to continue with him in the hope that he can get them promoted again & he will stay until a really decent job comes along, possibly as part of a domino effect caused by Guardiola leaving city.

In any event it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

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