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HKOwen Hong Kong 01 May 24 1.24am
Originally posted by Mapletree No Do keep up He is a doctor and isn’t standing again So he says at the moment, so it's not certain yet. Do keep up etc Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 01 May 24 1.24am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do keep up

He is a doctor and isn’t standing again

So he says at the moment, so it's not certain yet. Do keep up etc

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen Hong Kong 01 May 24 1.26am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Why is the NHS no longer seen as satisfactory? Half a million new people here every year, an ageing population, more and more services covered, huge amounts of waste, PFI contracts, staff who don't speak proper English, under trained staff, high levels of incompetence and a lack of commitment to patient care. That might be why. Your endless irrational hatred of the Tories blinds you to the reality. Until there is a cross party effort to deal with these problems, the current idiotic adversarial approach will only make things worse. Not only the Tories to be fair Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 01 May 24 1.26am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Why is the NHS no longer seen as satisfactory?

Half a million new people here every year, an ageing population,
more and more services covered, huge amounts of waste, PFI contracts, staff who don't speak proper English, under trained staff, high levels of incompetence and a lack of commitment to patient care.

That might be why.

Your endless irrational hatred of the Tories blinds you to the reality.

Until there is a cross party effort to deal with these problems, the current idiotic adversarial approach will only make things worse.

Not only the Tories to be fair

Mapletree Croydon 01 May 24 7.12am
Originally posted by HKOwen So he says at the moment, so it's not certain yet. Do keep up etc Ah, I see, it’s a conspiracy. And you are so clever to have spotted it I wonder what the Labour candidate for that seat has been told then.

Mapletree

Croydon 01 May 24 7.12am

Originally posted by HKOwen

So he says at the moment, so it's not certain yet. Do keep up etc

Ah, I see, it’s a conspiracy. And you are so clever to have spotted it

I wonder what the Labour candidate for that seat has been told then.

HKOwen Hong Kong 01 May 24 7.15am
Originally posted by Mapletree Ah, I see, it’s a conspiracy. And you are so clever to have spotted it I wonder what the Labour candidate for that seat has been told then. Pesky facts eh, presumably as you can foresee the future you will know what the Labour candidate will say. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 01 May 24 7.15am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, I see, it’s a conspiracy. And you are so clever to have spotted it

I wonder what the Labour candidate for that seat has been told then.

Pesky facts eh, presumably as you can foresee the future you will know what the Labour candidate will say.

Hrolf The Ganger 01 May 24 8.46am
Originally posted by Mapletree If the country chooses to grow by immigration rather than productivity then the country needs to plan for the immigration. And goodness knows what a mess the government has made on every aspect of that for many years. On your final paragraph we agree. The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate. The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century.

Hrolf The Ganger

01 May 24 8.46am

Originally posted by Mapletree

If the country chooses to grow by immigration rather than productivity then the country needs to plan for the immigration. And goodness knows what a mess the government has made on every aspect of that for many years.

On your final paragraph we agree.

The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate.

The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century.

georgenorman 01 May 24 8.53am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate. The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century. Beat me to it!

georgenorman

01 May 24 8.53am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate.

The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century.

Beat me to it!

HKOwen Hong Kong 01 May 24 9.56am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate. The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century. Point also being we have an electoral system where a small cohort can do tremendous damage in a couple of parliamentary cycles. The Conservative rhetoric on immigration bears not the slightest resemblance to reality. It's time for PR in my book Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 01 May 24 9.56am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The 'country' hasn't chosen that. It has been decided by a handful of self serving politicians despite opposition from the electorate.

The absurdity of mass immigration with all its negatives, coupled with a lack of effort to provide resources for it, is the biggest scandal of the century. Any century.

Point also being we have an electoral system where a small cohort can do tremendous damage in a couple of parliamentary cycles.

The Conservative rhetoric on immigration bears not the slightest resemblance to reality.

It's time for PR in my book

Mapletree Croydon 01 May 24 11.13pm
Originally posted by HKOwen Pesky facts eh, presumably as you can foresee the future you will know what the Labour candidate will say. Hmmm. Facts you say. I was not aware you were acquainted with such things The facts are Dan Poulter declared he would not stand again as an MP at the same time as his defection. In any case the Labour candidate Kevin Craig was already chosen in March.

Mapletree

Croydon 01 May 24 11.13pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

Pesky facts eh, presumably as you can foresee the future you will know what the Labour candidate will say.

Hmmm. Facts you say. I was not aware you were acquainted with such things

The facts are Dan Poulter declared he would not stand again as an MP at the same time as his defection. In any case the Labour candidate Kevin Craig was already chosen in March.

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