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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Jul 24 6.05pm

Originally posted by palace99

ok - just so i understand your argument people like Zaha and Guehi who weren't born in this country shouldn't have be allowed in and should be exported.

Is that what your saying?

maybe the NATO wars are coming home to roost. Endless conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine.

i bet neutral countries do not get this level of terrorism.

but immigration yes. Poland & Hungary are not getting nutjobs attacking kids and screaming the 'A.A' familiar slogan.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

palace99 Flag New Mills 29 Jul 24 6.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mental health is an excuse issue.

I looked into this whole area years ago during a debate on Hol and put the stats up.

If we look at pre WW2 spending on mental health you will find it near non existent. Yet when you compare the number of violent occurrences like this the statistics are way way lower.

Anyone can go look at the homicide statistics (I chose homicide because it can't be re-categized - a murder then is a murder now). All you do is adjust for population and you can see over the hundred years just how much lower violent crime was....and that's at a time where mental health spending wasn't a thing and more of the population were poorer.

The statistics plainly show you when the steady increases in violent deaths started and it isn't hard realising obvious conclusions.

The media sell people excuses to cover up for realities that they aren't paid to tell you....not that most of them have even studied it.

what a simplistic argument.

Mental health wasn't recognised as a 'thing' but it clearly existed - my grandad served yet never spoke about his experienced but clearly had 'issues'.

Whether we like it or not the younger generations will have more mental health - partly as we are better at identifying it and partly as phones etc have changed how people interact.


When i was at school the weaker kids was regarded as slow or thick, but we now recognise dyslexia and other learning difficulties and extra resources are available to these kids - who often learn in different ways.

The world has moved on

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2024 5.56pm)

 

palace99 Flag New Mills 29 Jul 24 6.10pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Are you totally stupid?

pot and kettle spring to mind

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Jul 24 6.18pm

Originally posted by palace99

pot and kettle spring to mind

Just go away. I can't be bothered.

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Jul 24 6.27pm

Originally posted by palace99

This is absolutely terrible, however, i'm not sure what you want politicians to do. Clearly mental health is a big issue, however you want to categorise people - religion, ethnicity, socio economic background etc and these services have been constantly cut over the years.

Tommy R has fled the country to avoid a court appearance today - don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.


What the hell has TR got to do with this atrocitie, unless you have an agenda, in which case, shame on you.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 29 Jul 24 6.34pm

A 17 yr old attacking young children with a knife, and killing one, at a family fun day.

This is horrific, disgusting, appalling. Difficult to find other words to describe this despicable act of cowardice.

Knife crime appears out of control. Thank heavens he didn't have a gun. What's our new Home secretary going to do about this epidemic that's what I want to know?

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 29 Jul 24 6.36pm

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Dont know this media site but if true…someone is going to have some answering to do

 


Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 29 Jul 24 6.47pm

We don't vote our way out of this.

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Jul 24 6.48pm

Originally posted by kevlee

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Dont know this media site but if true…someone is going to have some answering to do

the Algerian , who did the stabby rampage at a Dublin Primary school. He was previously caught carrying a knife. He was Let off with a slap on the wrists.

And again, we are told of a mental health problem. I am becoming very sceptical of all these mental-health cases that seem to have a dearth of previous paperwork at the local GP ?

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (29 Jul 2024 6.52pm)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Jul 24 6.50pm

Originally posted by kevlee

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Dont know this media site but if true…someone is going to have some answering to do

I expect Labour to grant asylum to the huge backlog of illegals, so expect lots more attacks.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 29 Jul 24 6.57pm

Any society with a lopsided gender-balance will always be violent. Too many men.

The american Wild West of 1840's, Squaddie towns, The early days of mining in the Rhondda valley.......all men, all the statistics point at the same thing.


And what is the gender on all the little boats arriving ?

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Jul 24 6.57pm

Merseyside Police Chief has just said the suspect is originally from Cardiff.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jul 24 7.03pm

Originally posted by palace99

what a simplistic argument.

Mental health wasn't recognised as a 'thing' but it clearly existed - my grandad served yet never spoke about his experienced but clearly had 'issues'.

Whether we like it or not the younger generations will have more mental health - partly as we are better at identifying it and partly as phones etc have changed how people interact.

When i was at school the weaker kids was regarded as slow or thick, but we now recognise dyslexia and other learning difficulties and extra resources are available to these kids - who often learn in different ways.

The world has moved on

Simplistic?

You seem to have ignored the actual points I was making.

Never mind.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jul 24 7.05pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Merseyside Police Chief has just said the suspect is originally from Cardiff.

Ruth Madoc-istan.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Jul 24 7.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ruth Madoc-istan.

I used to have a crush on her what a voice!

I'm getting suspicious that this won't be an immigrant - despite it seeming obvious - due to the extensive reporting. I just get the feeling this could be played down far more if it was. Just an opinion.
I'm angry, frankly, and really feel for all the families involved - having kids myself brings it really home. And all the stupid classes I've brought them to over the years.
Even Starmer's making an address now.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Jul 24 7.29pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Merseyside Police Chief has just said the suspect is originally from Cardiff.

Well, not really. I will wager he is older than 17. Claimed to be a minor so no chance of detention on arrival. Still mental health issues trumps all. He should be f***ing strung up
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If this is genuine, of course

Edited by Spiderman (29 Jul 2024 7.30pm)

Edited by Spiderman (29 Jul 2024 7.42pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jul 24 7.35pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I used to have a crush on her what a voice!

I'm getting suspicious that this won't be an immigrant - despite it seeming obvious - due to the extensive reporting. I just get the feeling this could be played down far more if it was. Just an opinion.
I'm angry, frankly, and really feel for all the families involved - having kids myself brings it really home. And all the stupid classes I've brought them to over the years.
Even Starmer's making an address now.

Yep, she was certainly the 'girl next door' type pin up back in the day.

I guess we will find out the ethnicity in due time but even if it isn't the usual suspects the reality is that these attacks reflect the social fabric of our nihilistic, morally fractured times.

The actual event itself is far too depressingly horrible for me to want to think about it. I don't blame people for being very angry because that's the proper reaction as far as I'm concerned. I just feel numb to it because I've commented on it so many times before. This is what was given to this country by its enemies, useful idiots and fifth columnists and it isn't going away.


Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2024 7.40pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 24 8.19pm

I heard something on the PM programme earlier that was inserted as a consequence of this event. It surprised me a lot, and seems to be based on this:-

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Violent crime has declined by 90% in 30 years. Not the reported violent crime, but the actual violent crime.

The exception being knife crime which has increased, although it fell last year.

It was pointed out though that compared to other countries like the USA the fatalities from knives here, compared to guns in the USA, is tiny. From memory there were 40,000 deaths from guns in the USA last year whilst there were only 300 here and another 133 from knives.

This is no reason to be complacent but it does put it in context and show that common perceptions, stirred up by certain media outlets, is not always correct.

 


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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 29 Jul 24 8.26pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I heard something on the PM programme earlier that was inserted as a consequence of this event. It surprised me a lot, and seems to be based on this:-

[Link]

Violent crime has declined by 90% in 30 years. Not the reported violent crime, but the actual violent crime.

The exception being knife crime which has increased, although it fell last year.

It was pointed out though that compared to other countries like the USA the fatalities from knives here, compared to guns in the USA, is tiny. From memory there were 40,000 deaths from guns in the USA last year whilst there were only 300 here and another 133 from knives.

This is no reason to be complacent but it does put it in context and show that common perceptions, stirred up by certain media outlets, is not always correct.

It’s not a competition to be the most violent country. What you are missing is the perception that those knifing are - how shall I say - are a different ethnicity to their victims, like ‘Asian’ grooming gangs.

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 29 Jul 24 8.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If this had happened a few years ago, it would have stopped the country. Now it is just a monthly occurance.

We can thank our indifferent governments and all the contemptible useful idiots, some of whom frequent these boards and, needless to say, the other site, who continuously defend mass immigration and proclaim the innocence and peaceful nature of the majority of immigrants.

We don't know the identity of this lunatic yet, but I doubt I'll need to come back to apologise if he turns out to be an 'Anglo Saxon'.

We are all becoming hardened to this stuff, but that is not enough. We must become angry. We must stop this insanity. Our politicians have abandoned us.

Meanwhile, Tommy Robinson has fled the country under threat of rearrest under 'terrorism laws'.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Jul 2024 3.15pm)

Getting in early for some attempted point scoring I see, even before any real details have been released. No concern for anything other than your ideology and agenda.

Anyone jumping straight in who is more concerned with the race of the attacker, whether that’s the left or the right, needs their head wobbled.

Absolutely disgraceful. You need to take a long hard look at yourself.

Pathetic.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (29 Jul 2024 8.28pm)

 


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