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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 6.38pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

f*** the disabled
f*** the poor
help the rich

I'd rather f*** the rich. As long as they are paying for the meal.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Apr 17 6.41pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

97% of the world countries are 'defenceless' against nuclear attack and, let's face it, if nuclear missiles were launched in our direction our 'defence' could do fvck all about it.

If dear boy....

The fact that we have five nuclear armed subs ready to throw back is the defence.

It's called assured mutual destruction.

Most of those 97 percent have their arses covered by a nuclear ally.

You are getting a repuation Kermy....Your stats should really start with a disclaimer.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2017 6.42pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 6.55pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Be interesting to see which of these policies people don't agree with.


Labour Party policies


Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts
It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax?

£10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18
The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days).

All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation
Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords) deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation.

Renationalise the railways
This is a very popular policy that is supported by an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current shambles is acceptable?

Renationalise the NHS
The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not for profit public service, or the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda?

Free school meals
The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools.

Create a National Education Service
Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it.

Scrap tuition fees
Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers) UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the industrialised world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees.

Restore NHS Bursaries
One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for nurses has caused a huge 10,000 decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. This collapse in nursing recruitment would be bad enough in its own right, but in combination with a record increase in the number of EU nurses quitting the NHS and a mind-boggling 92% fall in nursing recruitment from EU countries, the UK is clearly facing a massive NHS recruitment crisis. Labour would reverse this calamitous state of affairs by restoring NHS Bursaries for trainee nurses.

Increase the carers allowance
Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they're doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget.

Create a National Investment Bank
This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK.

End the public sector pay freeze
Under Tory rule UK workers suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand.

End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations
David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging.

Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers
Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests.

Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts
Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world. The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Theresa May has already threatened to lower the corporation tax even further to turn post-brexit Britiain into a tax haven economy, Corbyn is proposing to do the opposite and increase corporation tax rates so they're more in line with the rest of the developed world.

Defend Human Rights
Theresa May has repeatedly expressed her intention to tear up Winston Churchill's finest legacy, the European Convention on Human Rights. Labour would oppose this Tory attack on our human rights.

Zero Hours Contracts ban
Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts. Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation.

Holding the Tories to account over Brexit
Labour have said that they won't block Brexit, but they will seek to hold the Tories to account over it. A landslide Tory victory would be a disaster for the UK because it would allow Theresa May to pursue the most right-wing pro-corporate anti-worker Brexit possible with almost no democratic scrutiny. The only way to make sure the Tories don't push a fanatically right-wing Brexit on the nation is to ensure that there are plenty of opposition MPs to hold them to account.

Housebuilding
Under the Tory government the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing to invest in a programme of housebuilding, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy by increasing aggregate demand.

Combat inequality
George Osborne's ideological austerity agenda resulted in the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier.

I find a lot to agree there N and thanks for your time spent over it.

However over brexit you are telling us how the tories would be held to account not what the labour party will do if elected.

IMO they should go for scrapping it altogether as the only real benefit of reducing immigration will not happen as labour and tories have both said.

That could restore Labour with remainers that is 48%
could win an election.

 

NKEagle Flag Pyongyang 20 Apr 17 6.56pm

Originally posted by Nest

So what are your nasty parties policies?

Always use protection, no picture taking, and no means no. But I'm not sure what that has to do with anything...

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Apr 17 7.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If dear boy....

The fact that we have five nuclear armed subs ready to throw back is the defence.

It's called assured mutual destruction.

Most of those 97 percent have their arses covered by a nuclear ally.

You are getting a repuation Kermy....Your stats should really start with a disclaimer.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2017 6.42pm)

Just takes a paranoid, nihilistic, narcissist who happens to be in charge of some nukes to laugh at our defence at his/her finger hits the button. Do you not watch Bond movies?

But, luckily, past leaders around the globe have never shown those traits. Ever.


As Putin gets older and madder and if he clings on to power and becomes more sociopathic I reckon he must just be the one.

I should tell the wife really.

Edited by Kermit8 (20 Apr 2017 7.10pm)

 


Big chest and massive boobs

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 7.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If dear boy....

The fact that we have five nuclear armed subs ready to throw back is the defence.

It's called assured mutual destruction.

Most of those 97 percent have their arses covered by a nuclear ally.

You are getting a repuation Kermy....Your stats should really start with a disclaimer.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2017 6.42pm)

There is no defence against nuclear attack as the UK would be obliterated.

Firing weapons just before you are incinerated is not much use but taking your point as a deterrent we cannot know whether the 1 armed submarine on duty would actually deter.

If an enemy was able to ascertain that the weapon was not capable of destroying them then its frying tonight.

We wouldn't need to worry about the Palace result in that case..........

 

Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 20 Apr 17 7.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The first priority of any government is the security of its citizens/subjects.

Funny Nick....but you seem to have missed that out.....You missed out that Oorbyn will leave this country defenseless to nuclear attack....hence requiring protection from America or leaving itself open to blackmail or destruction.

Why didn't you mention that?


Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Apr 2017 6.04pm)

I don't feel threatened by other nuclear-armed states - that's because the UK isn't actually threatened by any of them.

I'd rather my government fixed the nation from the inside before it spunks billions on "protecting" it from all those boogeymen on the outside.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 8.35pm

Check out how much your local school will be losing because of Tory policy.

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Here is how Bromley will be affected. Look at the numbers of teachers that will be lost as a result.

Edited by nickgusset (20 Apr 2017 8.38pm)

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 20 Apr 17 8.44pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Check out how much your local school will be losing because of Tory policy.

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Here is how Bromley will be affected. Look at the numbers of teachers that will be lost as a result.

Edited by nickgusset (20 Apr 2017 8.38pm)


Did read in saturdays daily mail that lots of schools are now charging kids who take a packed lunch to school £2 to sit down and eat there own sandwiches in the dinner hall to pay for the supervision, you couldnt make it up!I hope all those kids parents are the ones voting for this government, they deserve it!

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 20 Apr 17 9.13pm

Bloody Costa not paying their taxes. Oh...........................


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the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 20 Apr 17 9.17pm

Originally posted by Nest

So what are your nasty parties policies?

Interesting how the left always insult and name call but accuse the Tories of being nasty.

I may be wrong but it isn't the Tories with an anti Semitic problem

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Interesting how the left always insult and name call but accuse the Tories of being nasty.

I may be wrong but it isn't the Tories with an anti Semitic problem

It was the PM herself who first called the tories the 'nasty party'.

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 20 Apr 17 9.30pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

It was the PM herself who first called the tories the 'nasty party'.

What she actually said is that some people call the Tories the nasty party.

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 9.41pm

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Dennis ain't wrong.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 9.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Dennis ain't wrong.

Dimetrodon
Diplodocus
Dennis Skinner

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 9.50pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Dimetrodon
Diplodocus
Dennis Skinner

ageist

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 9.53pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

What she actually said is that some people call the Tories the nasty party.

She obviously knew nit-picker

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 9.55pm

Strong and stable government eh?

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 9.59pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Strong and stable government eh?

Get a life man. That is pathetic.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Apr 17 10.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Get a life man. That is pathetic.

Totally agree about the pathetic and risible contents of the attachment.

Gussett incessantly trawling the Internet for left-wing anti-Tory bile.

 

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