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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Aug 20 9.28pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Because he's turning increasingly toxic and it's best not to have toxins in your body.

He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract.
He will play near his best for us because he knows that is the only way to get a move to a big club when the time comes.
Sulking will only backfire on him.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 11 Aug 20 10.45pm

For what we know he can do we were made very aware of the fact that he doesn't want to do it anymore, he needs to go and fast otherwise we will be in trouble this season.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 11 Aug 20 10.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract.
He will play near his best for us because he knows that is the only way to get a move to a big club when the time comes.
Sulking will only backfire on him.

A best player has to be able to score, create or prevent goals, how do you justify Zaha being our best player?

 

Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Aug 20 12.29am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Including the Bournemouth game, hes been involved in 3 of our last 5 goals.

The season before last was his most successful one for us.

This season 3 goals and 4 assists may look bad, but that's still 25% of our goals this season. Then add all the times hes been fouled and we got a free kick and scored, played a pass to a player that's made an assist, or freed up space for someone else.

He's are most marked and fouled player yet pretty much all out goals come down the left had side.

We can't rely on him to produce magic each week in order to give a reprieve to Roy's dour negative tactics. Our record on replacing star players is awful, as is Hodgson's (£35m for Andy Carroll).

Zaha isn't the person we should be hounding out of the club.


Yes, it looks bad and that’s because it is, there’s no other way to dress it up for someone of Wilf’s ability, alleged value and astronomical wage.

Not only are the stats bad but his performances on the whole this season have been woeful and a sure fire way to slow down any of our attacks was to pass the ball to Wilf who would put his foot on the ball, walk with it for a bit, pass it side wards or lose the ball and look longingly towards the ref for a foul.

He desperately wants a move and each and every transfer window we have this same saga...last summer it was made worse with his ‘brothers’ shenanigans and then with the sacking of his agent.

I agree with others in that it must be a distraction for the squad and his influence has seemingly not been a positive one for quite some time now.

On that same note and also going back to the original point regarding the stats, 3 goals and 4 assists ALL Season is very poor and had we sold Wilf last Summer I have no doubt that a half decent young replacement would have surpassed both of those tallies with ease and on significantly less wages and with a slice of the the transfer fee left over to spend elsewhere.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Aug 20 1.01am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract.
He will play near his best for us because he knows that is the only way to get a move to a big club when the time comes.
Sulking will only backfire on him.

Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around.

Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Aug 20 9.20am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around.

Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time.

Was he? By his standards maybe.
All things are relative. You obviously are one of these people who don't realise what you had till it's gone.

I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Aug 20 11.58am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Was he? By his standards maybe.
All things are relative. You obviously are one of these people who don't realise what you had till it's gone.

I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens.

The only benefit to hanging onto zaha is if we get bought out by mega spenders while he still puts in 5 or 6 out of 10 performances. That was your strategy last season and I don’t see much happening there. His worth financially and on the pitch continues to fall while we struggle to overhaul the squad. The whole football world see this.

What is your current price you’d accept and refuse for a player losing interest in putting in these limp performances? It was £100 mil last summer.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Aug 2020 12.02pm)

 


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ambrose7 Flag Croydon 12 Aug 20 12.41pm

2016/17 season he was ranked as the 16th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating.

2017/18 season he was ranked as the 14th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating.

2018/19 season he was ranked as the 20th best player in the league with a 7.21 rating.

2019/20 season he was ranked as the 55th best player in the league with a 6.98 rating.

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If it's the Zaha from the three previous seasons, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep him. I didn't want him to go last summer.

If it's the 19/20 Zaha, and that's all he feels like doing from now on, I'm fairly happy using his wages and transfer fee to give a couple of other players a go. If the last 8 games are anything to go by, him playing at that form and no investment elsewhere sends us down so if the club feels confident that's all we'll get from him, it doesn't feel quite as risky.

 


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southnorwoodhill Flag 12 Aug 20 12.54pm

Crunch time. Have a player on the books who doesn't want to be here, and if retained will end up on the bench through non committal performances and yet still be on an outrageous salary, or, get rid to the best offer, which will probably be around the £30m mark, and move on. One has to wonder about dressing room harmony.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Aug 20 1.03pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The only benefit to hanging onto zaha is if we get bought out by mega spenders while he still puts in 5 or 6 out of 10 performances. That was your strategy last season and I don’t see much happening there. His worth financially and on the pitch continues to fall while we struggle to overhaul the squad. The whole football world see this.

What is your current price you’d accept and refuse for a player losing interest in putting in these limp performances? It was £100 mil last summer.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Aug 2020 12.02pm)

The club will have a price in mind but a chunk of that will go to United thus making his value that much greater as a player as opposed to taking the money.
Zaha is probably the most talented player we have ever had. As I have said many times, the idea that we can sell him and replace him with similar talent is a pipe dream. Buying 3 average players with the money will not improve our performances.
Cheer up. I'm fairly sure he will go next season.

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 12 Aug 20 4.04pm

I think this could be a bit of deja vu.

Poor decision making, poor end product, inconsistent...lets sell him to Everton for £40m if they come back in...Wilf can do a "Bolasie" and get found out and then shipped out.

 

Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 12 Aug 20 4.07pm

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I think this could be a bit of deja vu.

Poor decision making, poor end product, inconsistent...lets sell him to Everton for £40m if they come back in...Wilf can do a "Bolasie" and get found out and then shipped out.

To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on.

 

nimblehippo Flag 12 Aug 20 4.31pm

It’s a bizarre situation - he is too good for the clubs that might be willing to fork out, but the clubs he should be going to can’t afford him. If he goes to Everton or Newcastle he loses face as they aren’t sufficient a step up. I wonder whether a loan with option/obligation to buy is an option. Eg Arsenal cough up 5 mil and cover wages for him but have to pay 50 if he plays 25+ games and they make Europe. In return we get a mates rate loan/signing as well. Leaves us a little exposed in short term, but a decent loan/signing helps to cover and we get a bit of cash and a lot of wage budget room.

 

sotac464 Flag Berkshire 12 Aug 20 4.58pm

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on.

Correct he was never the same player after that injury. Before that I remember him and Lukaku having a really good partnership, and Bolasie was whipping in some really good balls, for Lukaku to tap home.

 


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HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 12 Aug 20 5.11pm

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on.

Hmmm...yes forgot about that! It’s my age!

 

Casual Flag Orpington 12 Aug 20 5.44pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Was he? By his standards maybe.
All things are relative. You obviously are one of these people who don't realise what you had till it's gone.

I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens.

He’s supposedly our best ever player, but was out worked and out played by someone that cost us £2 million.
Says it all for me

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 12 Aug 20 5.52pm

Originally posted by HesHereHesThere

I think this could be a bit of deja vu.

Poor decision making, poor end product, inconsistent...lets sell him to Everton for £40m if they come back in...Wilf can do a "Bolasie" and get found out and then shipped out.

Sadly correct.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 12 Aug 20 5.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Was he? By his standards maybe.
All things are relative. You obviously are one of these people who don't realise what you had till it's gone.

I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens.

you're on a wind up.

 

Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Aug 20 8.39pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around.

Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time.

I don’t think anyone can say for certain that this was the case because a number of other articles have said we received two bids from Everton, both of which were for more than the Arsenal offer, one of them considerably more.

Now I’m not saying we did, because I don’t know, but with equal measure I’m not saying we didn’t, because there are a number of firm reports stating that we did.

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Edited by Phil’s Barber (12 Aug 2020 8.39pm)

 

Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Aug 20 8.43pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

2016/17 season he was ranked as the 16th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating.

2017/18 season he was ranked as the 14th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating.

2018/19 season he was ranked as the 20th best player in the league with a 7.21 rating.

2019/20 season he was ranked as the 55th best player in the league with a 6.98 rating.

whoscored.com

If it's the Zaha from the three previous seasons, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep him. I didn't want him to go last summer.

If it's the 19/20 Zaha, and that's all he feels like doing from now on, I'm fairly happy using his wages and transfer fee to give a couple of other players a go. If the last 8 games are anything to go by, him playing at that form and no investment elsewhere sends us down so if the club feels confident that's all we'll get from him, it doesn't feel quite as risky.

This ^^^ 100%

 

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