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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
Because he's turning increasingly toxic and it's best not to have toxins in your body. He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract. A best player has to be able to score, create or prevent goals, how do you justify Zaha being our best player?
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Including the Bournemouth game, hes been involved in 3 of our last 5 goals. The season before last was his most successful one for us. This season 3 goals and 4 assists may look bad, but that's still 25% of our goals this season. Then add all the times hes been fouled and we got a free kick and scored, played a pass to a player that's made an assist, or freed up space for someone else. He's are most marked and fouled player yet pretty much all out goals come down the left had side. We can't rely on him to produce magic each week in order to give a reprieve to Roy's dour negative tactics. Our record on replacing star players is awful, as is Hodgson's (£35m for Andy Carroll). Zaha isn't the person we should be hounding out of the club. Yes, it looks bad and that’s because it is, there’s no other way to dress it up for someone of Wilf’s ability, alleged value and astronomical wage. Not only are the stats bad but his performances on the whole this season have been woeful and a sure fire way to slow down any of our attacks was to pass the ball to Wilf who would put his foot on the ball, walk with it for a bit, pass it side wards or lose the ball and look longingly towards the ref for a foul. He desperately wants a move and each and every transfer window we have this same saga...last summer it was made worse with his ‘brothers’ shenanigans and then with the sacking of his agent. I agree with others in that it must be a distraction for the squad and his influence has seemingly not been a positive one for quite some time now. On that same note and also going back to the original point regarding the stats, 3 goals and 4 assists ALL Season is very poor and had we sold Wilf last Summer I have no doubt that a half decent young replacement would have surpassed both of those tallies with ease and on significantly less wages and with a slice of the the transfer fee left over to spend elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He can turn into the Incredible Hulk and that still won't alter the facts. He is our best player and has 3 years on his contract. Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around. Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around. Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time. Was he? By his standards maybe. I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Was he? By his standards maybe. I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens. The only benefit to hanging onto zaha is if we get bought out by mega spenders while he still puts in 5 or 6 out of 10 performances. That was your strategy last season and I don’t see much happening there. His worth financially and on the pitch continues to fall while we struggle to overhaul the squad. The whole football world see this. What is your current price you’d accept and refuse for a player losing interest in putting in these limp performances? It was £100 mil last summer. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Aug 2020 12.02pm)
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The only benefit to hanging onto zaha is if we get bought out by mega spenders while he still puts in 5 or 6 out of 10 performances. That was your strategy last season and I don’t see much happening there. His worth financially and on the pitch continues to fall while we struggle to overhaul the squad. The whole football world see this. What is your current price you’d accept and refuse for a player losing interest in putting in these limp performances? It was £100 mil last summer. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Aug 2020 12.02pm) The club will have a price in mind but a chunk of that will go to United thus making his value that much greater as a player as opposed to taking the money.
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Originally posted by HesHereHesThere
I think this could be a bit of deja vu. Poor decision making, poor end product, inconsistent...lets sell him to Everton for £40m if they come back in...Wilf can do a "Bolasie" and get found out and then shipped out. To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on.
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Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle
To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on. Correct he was never the same player after that injury. Before that I remember him and Lukaku having a really good partnership, and Bolasie was whipping in some really good balls, for Lukaku to tap home.
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Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle
To be fair to Bolasie, he got a major injury early on. Hmmm...yes forgot about that! It’s my age!
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Was he? By his standards maybe. I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens. He’s supposedly our best ever player, but was out worked and out played by someone that cost us £2 million.
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Originally posted by HesHereHesThere
I think this could be a bit of deja vu. Poor decision making, poor end product, inconsistent...lets sell him to Everton for £40m if they come back in...Wilf can do a "Bolasie" and get found out and then shipped out. Sadly correct.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Was he? By his standards maybe. I'm not getting into the annual sell Zaha squabble so let's just see what happens. you're on a wind up.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Like last season just gone? He was poor. All those back passes as soon as he received the ball. Often only one man on him. Then the occasions when pva is free on an overlap, Wilf ignores him and loses the ball into his marker. Or the January period when he protected himself. Football has changed. Keeping problem people doesn’t work any more, especially at their value and the opportunity cost in having them still around. Hrolf, he sulked like I said he would and you disagreed. Now you’re saying he won’t again. I wasn’t completely right because I said sell at £60-65 mil, but we only received the Arsenal bid of £45 mil spread over 750 transfer windows. We won’t ever hear of anything near £65mil now. What has made me laugh though are the people ssyiwe should’ve sold, but conveniently forgetting the only bid from Arsenal. Parish would’ve looked a right tw&t and been lynched by fans, and more than a few flying pies at half time. I don’t think anyone can say for certain that this was the case because a number of other articles have said we received two bids from Everton, both of which were for more than the Arsenal offer, one of them considerably more. Now I’m not saying we did, because I don’t know, but with equal measure I’m not saying we didn’t, because there are a number of firm reports stating that we did. Edited by Phil’s Barber (12 Aug 2020 8.39pm)
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Originally posted by ambrose7
2016/17 season he was ranked as the 16th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating. 2017/18 season he was ranked as the 14th best player in the league with a 7.38 rating. 2018/19 season he was ranked as the 20th best player in the league with a 7.21 rating. 2019/20 season he was ranked as the 55th best player in the league with a 6.98 rating. whoscored.com If it's the Zaha from the three previous seasons, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep him. I didn't want him to go last summer. If it's the 19/20 Zaha, and that's all he feels like doing from now on, I'm fairly happy using his wages and transfer fee to give a couple of other players a go. If the last 8 games are anything to go by, him playing at that form and no investment elsewhere sends us down so if the club feels confident that's all we'll get from him, it doesn't feel quite as risky. This ^^^ 100%
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