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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 01 Mar 21 8.09am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's one of those so called facts that has been repeated so often on HOL that people now assume that it's fact.

I expect that Roy was photographed showing his payslip to a journalist

I thought the inference from Pearce was that there is a declining group of players, uncertainty at Boardroom level, a history of behaving like a load of fannies in the transfer market notwithstanding COVID and two high profile names have walked from the job.

It goes without saying there’ll be applicants but if their sole motivation is money they may not be of the calibre we”d hope.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 01 Mar 21 8.11am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

So the game was derided by the BBC and its commentary team and rightly so, but was the Chelsea v Man Utd any better? NO it wasn’t it was dire too, yet these teams had their best 11 on the pitch.

We have now worked our way into a safe position within a week, sure we have got some tough fixtures coming, but is anyone setting the world alight apart from Man City? Again it’s a big fat NO!

All the games coming up are a free hit now and we will get a few more points. Until we have the fans back in the stadiums we are going to get some strange results and our players will definitely go up a gear when they have the fans backing.

Am I seeing things differently to anyone else or are we just plain bad from top to bottom?

No, you're completely right, Man.C have huge massive resources ..look at their bench lol they are practically taking the piss with everyone, Leicester are mortally damaged by just removing a few key players, us by removing one ..look at the difference Bale made to Spurs and he's been resting nice and fresh to bring on, Burnley like us are totally knackered even though they beat us easily at home the very early goal did us as it did them at Spurs. Everyone is having issues with this Covid apart from Man.C who have the best squad and by far the strongest bench.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Mar 21 8.13am

Everyone entitled to an opinion of course, but his job is to commentate on the game I would suggest, not opine on the prospects of us being able to attract a manager.

Originally posted by cryrst

Pearce commentates on us and has for years. He is as qualified to have an opinion like all of us. Because some disagree doesn't make them wrong.

 


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thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 01 Mar 21 8.24am

Yes, we have the oldest squad in PL, we have a lot of injuries, but still - STILL - as fans we should expect better from well-paid professionals than we have seen the last three games.
At least being able to pass to a teammate, at least try to get the ball into the opposition's box = not expecting miracles from our defenders over and over again.

 

Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 01 Mar 21 8.28am

Originally posted by EddieMac

It all depends what your hopes are. I can not speak for anyone but myself but I really believe that the club is going to start kicking on and move upwards but it all depends on us just getting through this depressing patch. If we get relegated it’s all over but if we stay up this season the rebuilding can begin, it will take time but I do believe it will happen.

Five teams in the top eight of the Championship are all trying to get back having been relegated one, two and three years ago, if we go down the opportunity to get back has quite obviously improved dramatically over the past three to four years, Norwich look to be up and Watford and Swansea appear to be fighting Brentford for the other promotion place, all the play offs could involve Cardiff quite easily too.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Mar 21 8.42am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Everyone entitled to an opinion of course, but his job is to commentate on the game I would suggest, not opine on the prospects of us being able to attract a manager.

I bet if he had said a few complimentary things about us you wouldn't be complaining and I can't think of anything that he said that hasn't been said on here hundreds of times including by me

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Mar 21 8.46am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I thought the inference from Pearce was that there is a declining group of players, uncertainty at Boardroom level, a history of behaving like a load of fannies in the transfer market notwithstanding COVID and two high profile names have walked from the job.

It was but my comment was solely about the myth that potential managers would be lining up to take over as we pay £4.5m per year.

Everything that Pearce said was what many of the supporters already believe to be the truth as either Parish has a masterplan that we know nothing about or else we will be paddling up the proverbial creek without a paddle

 

jeeagles Flag 01 Mar 21 8.48am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Five teams in the top eight of the Championship are all trying to get back having been relegated one, two and three years ago, if we go down the opportunity to get back has quite obviously improved dramatically over the past three to four years, Norwich look to be up and Watford and Swansea appear to be fighting Brentford for the other promotion place, all the play offs could involve Cardiff quite easily too.

Worth a reminder that if we go down, or players will be leaving with no sell on value.

Whereas Bournemouth who illegally wasted millions on young players are back in the playoff positions and have a squad that will help carry them for years.

Similarly, Norwich, who've spent far less than us, have largely invested in young players with the future in mind.

 

Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 01 Mar 21 9.00am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It was but my comment was solely about the myth that potential managers would be lining up to take over as we pay £4.5m per year.

Everything that Pearce said was what many of the supporters already believe to be the truth as either Parish has a masterplan that we know nothing about or else we will be paddling up the proverbial creek without a paddle

Reported that Frank Lampard was earning £75,000 a week at Chelski so cannot see Roy earning more ? One of Pearce's children is a Palace fan and this does show through in his knowledge of what is going on at the club compared to other commentators.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Mar 21 9.08am

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Reported that Frank Lampard was earning £75,000 a week at Chelski so cannot see Roy earning more ? One of Pearce's children is a Palace fan and this does show through in his knowledge of what is going on at the club compared to other commentators.

I think he is a Palace fan I used to sit behind him at games in the main stand this was at the start of his career when he didn't always have a game to comment on.

 


One more point

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Mar 21 9.12am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think he is a Palace fan I used to sit behind him at games in the main stand this was at the start of his career when he didn't always have a game to comment on.

Jonathan Pearce's wife hails from Croydon and JP knows the area.
I recall,from several years ago, when he was commentating on a game of ours bellowing out "They will be celebrating in the xxx and the yyy" with xxx and yyy being some of the local public houses!

He is from the West Country and has supported Bristol City.

Edited by Willo (01 Mar 2021 9.15am)

 

slubglurge Flag welling 01 Mar 21 9.34am

Originally posted by cryrst

Pearce commentates on us and has for years. He is as qualified to have an opinion like all of us. Because some disagree doesn't make them wrong.

When Pearce was with Capital he was based in Herne Hill. Although a Bristol City fan of his hometown club he clearly had an affection for us and disclosed once that his wife and child were season ticket holders. His family moved to Brighton so they could be Weed fans now

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Mar 21 9.54am

Originally posted by slubglurge

When Pearce was with Capital he was based in Herne Hill. Although a Bristol City fan of his hometown club he clearly had an affection for us and disclosed once that his wife and child were season ticket holders. His family moved to Brighton so they could be Weed fans now

My understanding is that his abode is not as far south as Brighton.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 01 Mar 21 10.12am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Everyone entitled to an opinion of course, but his job is to commentate on the game I would suggest, not opine on the prospects of us being able to attract a manager.


When the game was the boring nonentity it was, I imagine Pearce was desperate to find something remotely interesting to say.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 01 Mar 21 10.19am

Originally posted by Willo

Jonathan Pearce's wife hails from Croydon and JP knows the area.
I recall,from several years ago, when he was commentating on a game of ours bellowing out "They will be celebrating in the xxx and the yyy" with xxx and yyy being some of the local public houses!

He is from the West Country and has supported Bristol City.

Correct. He is a self proclaimed Sh1thead (their term???) but at least one of his kids supports Palace.

Edited by Willo (01 Mar 2021 9.15am)

 

Harborough Eagle Flag Market Harborough, Leicestershire 01 Mar 21 10.22am

Was there with you on many occasions and could not believe how quiet he was knowing him as a very vocal commentator....often just whispering to the person next to him and never getting animated.

Originally posted by Badger11

I think he is a Palace fan I used to sit behind him at games in the main stand this was at the start of his career when he didn't always have a game to comment on.

 


Red and Blue though and through (more than 50 years)

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 01 Mar 21 10.31am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

So the game was derided by the BBC and its commentary team and rightly so, but was the Chelsea v Man Utd any better? NO it wasn’t it was dire too, yet these teams had their best 11 on the pitch.

We have now worked our way into a safe position within a week, sure we have got some tough fixtures coming, but is anyone setting the world alight apart from Man City? Again it’s a big fat NO!

All the games coming up are a free hit now and we will get a few more points. Until we have the fans back in the stadiums we are going to get some strange results and our players will definitely go up a gear when they have the fans backing.

Am I seeing things differently to anyone else or are we just plain bad from top to bottom?

In full agreement with you. 0-0 at Chelsea no better than our result, and we will definitely see different football when fans are allowed back.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Mar 21 10.43am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Five teams in the top eight of the Championship are all trying to get back having been relegated one, two and three years ago, if we go down the opportunity to get back has quite obviously improved dramatically over the past three to four years, Norwich look to be up and Watford and Swansea appear to be fighting Brentford for the other promotion place, all the play offs could involve Cardiff quite easily too.

It's an interesting point, and when you come to the end of a particular chapter as we seem to be, it is tempting to see relegation as one step back before two steps forward. The data doesn't support the idea at all though.

I did dig out the numbers for another thread a while ago, and the overall pattern is very clear:

Of all the teams to get relegated from the premier league (I think about 50), about one quarter have bounced straight back up (I think its about 12 teams). However, of these 12, only three or four stayed up. Most of the time, if you go down you have a better chance of staying down, or going down again than of coming back up. If you do come back up, you have a high chance of it only being for one season.

Relegation = bad news.

 

joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 01 Mar 21 11.11am

Hate might be a bit strong, I was angry at yet another disgusting dire performance thats 99% down to the manager and his setup. To then hear him say that he's extremely satisfied with a 0-0 at home to Fulham and a "0-0 was going to be the best we could get today" just made me hate him. Don't get wrong I don't like him, I think he comes across as arrogant and when he gets questions he doesn't like or that are too near to the truth for him I think he turns into a tosser.

No - Im not offering him advice Im just commenting and giving an opinion on what I see every week. I think offering advice to someone like him would be absolutely pointless.

Yes - He's kept us up, He's not the only manager on the planet who could of done that.

Yes - injuries are a problem, his training methods need to be looked at because since he's been here I doubt there's another team anywhere with the amount of injuries we've had.

No - Why would he have forgotten more about the game than you or I ever will? Most of us have been fanatics of our clubs and the sport since before the age of 10. We've watched, examined and taken a massive interest in a sport and team we absolutely love so why does that make our opinions and observations worthless against someone who's lucky enough to have been given a career in the industry? If he was on this forum undercover Id expect him to be one of the ones who talks rubbish and makes no sense if Im being honest.

Curbishley myth - First of all we're talking about something that happened 15-16 years ago which is pathetic. Why do so many people bring this up? After Curbishley they gave Dowie the job for 12 games then Les Reed for just over 1 month, does nobody think that chopping and changing like that might have had an effect. There could have been other things going on too, why would exactly the same thing happen at this club in 2021?

Actually after reading that back I do hate him again so suck on that


Originally posted by Glazier#1

You hate that man?

Calm down and stop being so personal.

Anyway, I'm sure he's scratching his head , wondering why, in all his 45 years in football, he never listened to your advice.

Yes - injuries have decimated the squad.

Yes - he's kept us up for all this time - our longest in the top flight in our history

Yes - he's helped us to survive with, mostly, players that are cheaper but older, since he's been given very, very little to spend.

No to personal insults against a professional who's forgotten more about the game than you or I ever will.

No to the Curbishley Solution.


 

mars Flag Folkestone 01 Mar 21 11.26am

Was gonna watch highlights but didn’t have 10 spare seconds

 

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