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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 20 Jun 17 8.03am

Originally posted by bexleydave


This latest Dyche talk is a bit of a conundrum. He would appear to burning his bridges at Burnley (unless they're very forgiving) which would seem to be a rather risky thing to do unless it's been indicated to him that the Palace job is his if he wants it. If that's the case, what a complete waste of everyone's time the last four weeks have been. Being pragmatic I cannot see how his CV could trump de Boer's or even Pellegrino's, so why are we putting at risk employing one of those to give Dyche a run out? I hope it's for the right reasons and not because he's perceived as being more easily controlled and works cheap.

You see this is what happens with t'internet at the disposal of folk that either have a vested interest (agents) or those looking to make a few quid (journos).

As far as I can tell these are the facts in this case:

1. Nobody at Palace has confirmed we are talking to Dyche.

2. Dyche is not actually quoted anywhere as actually stating he wants the job.

3. Burnley have not confirmed they have given permission for both parties to speak to each other.

Basically, it's all rumour, supposition & lazy journalism.

Knowing how secretive SP can be it's as likely that we're the reason Tuchel ruled himself out of the Saints job. But probably not.

 


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chateauferret Flag 20 Jun 17 8.04am

Originally posted by bexleydave

No mention of Dyche in that, but that may be because it was written around the time he apparently threw his hat into the ring officially. They predict the Southampton process will take just a week in total; wish we could manage to do that.

If it were going to take a week in total it would have been done about three weeks ago because they started looking about the time we did. They just kept Puel hanging about wondering whether they were actually going to do it for a bit. Arseholes.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 8.09am

Originally posted by Jules111

How about a dream team of Trevor Francis and his assistant nutcase Alex Kolinko!!!!

Anything looking good at this stage. I understand the due diligence need to be taken but surely. We must have a preferred candidate at this stage of the process.

 


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chateauferret Flag 20 Jun 17 8.12am

Originally posted by bexleydave

I hope that whoever is appointed has good contacts in the transfer market because our scouting 'network', even compared to Brighton's, sounds a bit...well...err...crap frankly:

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We didn't do too badly in the last window, did we?

And Seaweed don't need a scouting network because they're PL-ready, as eny fule kno.

 


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Petereagle Flag Brockley 20 Jun 17 8.12am

Originally posted by bexleydave

I hope that whoever is appointed has good contacts in the transfer market because our scouting 'network', even compared to Brighton's, sounds a bit...well...err...crap frankly:

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Amateurish seems to be the word that springs to mind. I can feel a rant coming on, so had better sign off!

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 17 8.13am

Originally posted by chateauferret


They just kept Puel hanging about wondering whether they were actually going to do it for a bit. Arseholes.

I'm sure that Puel's pain was softened a bit by the multi million payoff he will be receiving

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.15am

Originally posted by Dan89

Anything looking good at this stage. I understand the due diligence need to be taken but surely. We must have a preferred candidate at this stage of the process.

It is very well drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts.Sometimes one has to go from 'Plan A' to 'Plan B' and even 'Plan C' as various factors come into the equation.A protracted selection process can be frustrating for supporters of course but also for those responsible for getting the deal "Over the line".I suspect we won't need to wait too much longer !

Edited by Willo (20 Jun 2017 8.15am)

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 8.15am

Originally posted by Dan89

Anything looking good at this stage. I understand the due diligence need to be taken but surely. We must have a preferred candidate at this stage of the process.


Quite frankly, we should have a CHOSEN candidate by now.

 


Bexley Dave

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Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 8.19am

Originally posted by bexleydave


Quite frankly, we should have a CHOSEN candidate by now.

I know , the length of this managerial decision concerns me about potential transfer going forward.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 8.20am

Originally posted by Willo

It is very well drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts.Sometimes one has to go from 'Plan A' to 'Plan B' and even 'Plan C' as various factors come into the equation.A protracted selection process can be frustrating for supporters of course but also for those responsible for getting the deal "Over the line".I suspect we won't need to wait too much longer !

Edited by Willo (20 Jun 2017 8.15am)

The fact we all know is we still have no manager in place and it's been over a month.

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 8.22am

Originally posted by Nobbybm

You see this is what happens with t'internet at the disposal of folk that either have a vested interest (agents) or those looking to make a few quid (journos).

As far as I can tell these are the facts in this case:

1. Nobody at Palace has confirmed we are talking to Dyche.

2. Dyche is not actually quoted anywhere as actually stating he wants the job.

3. Burnley have not confirmed they have given permission for both parties to speak to each other.

Basically, it's all rumour, supposition & lazy journalism.


Conversely Dyche could put an immediate end to the speculation by issuing a statement to that effect, if he really has no interest in the Palace job.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 17 8.24am

Originally posted by Willo

It is very well drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts.Sometimes one has to go from 'Plan A' to 'Plan B' and even 'Plan C' as various factors come into the equation.A protracted selection process can be frustrating for supporters of course but also for those responsible for getting the deal "Over the line".I suspect we won't need to wait too much longer !

Two of the hot favourites are unemployed so your "various factors" should have been sorted ages ago. If the delay is waiting for either of them to see if they have a better offer elsewhere then they fail one of SP's main criteria anyway.

If the target is a British manager currently in employment surely the negotiations with his club should have been completed weeks ago as you can't just wait and wait until transfer deadline day to see if can drive the price down as SP has admitted to doing with player transfers.

I don't accept holidays as a valid excuse as any unemployed manager who wants a job will take a day out of his holiday to meet up with SP and further negotiations can be conducted via Skype

I can't think of any other possible reason for delays but as Willo has mentioned it a few times perhaps he can come up with some

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.25am

Originally posted by Dan89

The fact we all know is we still have no manager in place and it's been over a month.

Indeed but I have tried to explain why these matters can often take time.

At the end of the day, whilst we are a PL club in London we are perhaps a "Hard sell" to potential managers of a certain status.

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 20 Jun 17 8.26am

Morning red & blue army. So is today the day of the annoucement as has been rumoured.

Or are we waiting for Shaun Dyche?

To sign a contract at Burnley.hears hoping.

 

chateauferret Flag 20 Jun 17 8.29am

Originally posted by bexleydave


Quite frankly, we should have a CHOSEN candidate by now.

How do you know we haven't?

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 17 8.34am

Originally posted by chateauferret

How do you know we haven't?

He didn't say that we hadn't so stop trying to pick a fight

 

chateauferret Flag 20 Jun 17 8.36am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

He didn't say that we hadn't so stop trying to pick a fight

Pot
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rawpalace05 Flag Saltdean 20 Jun 17 8.37am

Originally posted by Dan89

I know , the length of this managerial decision concerns me about potential transfer going forward.

How many times-we get in the right manager FOR THE PLAYERS WE ALREADY HAVE-THIS IS WHY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION IS SO IMPORTANT. We need possibly 4/5 additions to the SQUAD, even with the team that beat Hull and Sammy Lee in charge we will be able to compete with HUDDERSFIELD on the opening day, plus the 3/4 easyish fixtures that proceed. Some of you are saying you wish we had Brightons scouting network? Based on f***ing what? We've been in the premier league for 4 years under the stewardship of what we have, Brighton have not. I swear 90% of you are on here are off your heads.

 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 8.39am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Two of the hot favourites are unemployed so your "various factors" should have been sorted ages ago. If the delay is waiting for either of them to see if they have a better offer elsewhere then they fail one of SP's main criteria anyway.

If the target is a British manager currently in employment surely the negotiations with his club should have been completed weeks ago as you can't just wait and wait until transfer deadline day to see if can drive the price down as SP has admitted to doing with player transfers.

I don't accept holidays as a valid excuse as any unemployed manager who wants a job will take a day out of his holiday to meet up with SP and further negotiations can be conducted via Skype

I can't think of any other possible reason for delays but as Willo has mentioned it a few times perhaps he can come up with some


There are realistically only two reasons for this continuing delay and you've covered them both. Either we are genuinely interested in de Boer and/or Pellegrino, but one or both want to try their chances with Southampton first. Or, or maybe because of the previous point, we have latterly decided we'd like to give Dyche a run out (although why we didn't start the process earlier heaven alone knows).

There is a risk here that we could end up with no one if our tactic of trying to play both ends against the middle fails. I much prefer the Watford-style of recruitment; select target, make it happen, end of. It's not like we have a better record than them as far as revolving door management is concerned, despite all of our supposed careful work in making an appointment.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

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Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 17 8.45am

Originally posted by rawpalace05

We need possibly 4/5 additions to the SQUAD, even with the team that beat Hull and Sammy Lee in charge we will be able to compete with HUDDERSFIELD on the opening day,

We released Campbell, Flamini, Fryers, Ledley and Remy so we need five players just to replace them let alone to upgrade the squad and when you say that with the players that we've got and no manager we should be able to beat Huddersfield you forget who gave Burnley their only away win at the end of the last season

 

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