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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.48am
Originally posted by bexleydave There are realistically only two reasons for this continuing delay and you've covered them both. Either we are genuinely interested in de Boer and/or Pellegrino, but one or both want to try their chances with Southampton first. Or, or maybe because of the previous point, we have latterly decided we'd like to give Dyche a run out (although why we didn't start the process earlier heaven alone knows). There is a risk here that we could end up with no one if our tactic of trying to play both ends against the middle fails. I much prefer the Watford-style of recruitment; select target, make it happen, end of. It's not like we have a better record than them as far as revolving door management is concerned, despite all of our supposed careful work in making an appointment. Silva is their 9th manager since the Pozzo family took over the club in June 2012 with the longest staying about 1.5 years ! Edited by Willo (20 Jun 2017 8.50am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.48am

Originally posted by bexleydave

There are realistically only two reasons for this continuing delay and you've covered them both. Either we are genuinely interested in de Boer and/or Pellegrino, but one or both want to try their chances with Southampton first. Or, or maybe because of the previous point, we have latterly decided we'd like to give Dyche a run out (although why we didn't start the process earlier heaven alone knows).

There is a risk here that we could end up with no one if our tactic of trying to play both ends against the middle fails. I much prefer the Watford-style of recruitment; select target, make it happen, end of. It's not like we have a better record than them as far as revolving door management is concerned, despite all of our supposed careful work in making an appointment.

Silva is their 9th manager since the Pozzo family took over the club in June 2012 with the longest staying about 1.5 years !

Edited by Willo (20 Jun 2017 8.50am)

Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 17 8.49am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle He didn't say that we hadn't so stop trying to pick a fight Rich! "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 20 Jun 17 8.49am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

He didn't say that we hadn't so stop trying to pick a fight

Rich!

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 8.52am
Originally posted by rawpalace05 How many times-we get in the right manager FOR THE PLAYERS WE ALREADY HAVE-THIS IS WHY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION IS SO IMPORTANT. We need possibly 4/5 additions to the SQUAD, even with the team that beat Hull and Sammy Lee in charge we will be able to compete with HUDDERSFIELD on the opening day, plus the 3/4 easyish fixtures that proceed. Some of you are saying you wish we had Brightons scouting network? Based on f*ing what? We've been in the premier league for 4 years under the stewardship of what we have, Brighton have not. I swear 90% of you are on here are off your heads. Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads". I'd like a pound for the number of times I've heard how we're guaranteed to get a result against this or that team, because we are so superior to them, only to see us fail miserably. We underestimate Huddersfield, or any other team, at our peril. If you'd actually read the article you'd see that most PL clubs, including Brighton, have a superior scouting network to us. How exactly are we to make these four or five additions to the squad without a manager? The idea that everything's fine, if we haven't made a managerial appointment by the time the season kicks off, is the real thinking of the madhouse. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ***** thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 8.52am

Originally posted by rawpalace05

How many times-we get in the right manager FOR THE PLAYERS WE ALREADY HAVE-THIS IS WHY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION IS SO IMPORTANT. We need possibly 4/5 additions to the SQUAD, even with the team that beat Hull and Sammy Lee in charge we will be able to compete with HUDDERSFIELD on the opening day, plus the 3/4 easyish fixtures that proceed. Some of you are saying you wish we had Brightons scouting network? Based on f***ing what? We've been in the premier league for 4 years under the stewardship of what we have, Brighton have not. I swear 90% of you are on here are off your heads.

Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads".

I'd like a pound for the number of times I've heard how we're guaranteed to get a result against this or that team, because we are so superior to them, only to see us fail miserably. We underestimate Huddersfield, or any other team, at our peril.

If you'd actually read the article you'd see that most PL clubs, including Brighton, have a superior scouting network to us. How exactly are we to make these four or five additions to the squad without a manager? The idea that everything's fine, if we haven't made a managerial appointment by the time the season kicks off, is the real thinking of the madhouse.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.00am
Originally posted by Willo Silva is their 9th manager since the Pozzo family took over the club in June 2012 with the longest staying about 1.5 years ! And the next one will be our eighth since 2010 plus we dream of one and half years! Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.00am

Originally posted by Willo

Silva is their 9th manager since the Pozzo family took over the club in June 2012 with the longest staying about 1.5 years !

And the next one will be our eighth since 2010 plus we dream of one and half years!

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.03am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle We released Campbell, Flamini, Fryers, Ledley and Remy so we need five players just to replace them let alone to upgrade the squad and when you say that with the players that we've got and no manager we should be able to beat Huddersfield you forget who gave Burnley their only away win at the end of the last season We will not replace any of them. Any upgrades will be to the starting 11. Palace 13th 2017/18.

alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.03am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

We released Campbell, Flamini, Fryers, Ledley and Remy so we need five players just to replace them let alone to upgrade the squad and when you say that with the players that we've got and no manager we should be able to beat Huddersfield you forget who gave Burnley their only away win at the end of the last season

We will not replace any of them.
Any upgrades will be to the starting 11.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.05am
Originally posted by bexleydave There are realistically only two reasons for this continuing delay and you've covered them both. Either we are genuinely interested in de Boer and/or Pellegrino, but one or both want to try their chances with Southampton first. Or, or maybe because of the previous point, we have latterly decided we'd like to give Dyche a run out (although why we didn't start the process earlier heaven alone knows). There is a risk here that we could end up with no one if our tactic of trying to play both ends against the middle fails. I much prefer the Watford-style of recruitment; select target, make it happen, end of. It's not like we have a better record than them as far as revolving door management is concerned, despite all of our supposed careful work in making an appointment. You praise the Watford style of recruitment yet want stability at Palace.? Palace 13th 2017/18.

alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.05am

Originally posted by bexleydave

There is a risk here that we could end up with no one if our tactic of trying to play both ends against the middle fails. I much prefer the Watford-style of recruitment; select target, make it happen, end of. It's not like we have a better record than them as far as revolving door management is concerned, despite all of our supposed careful work in making an appointment.

You praise the Watford style of recruitment yet want stability at Palace.?

Palace 13th 2017/18.

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.08am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 We will not replace any of them. Any upgrades will be to the starting 11. Our problem last season was not our starting 11, but the lack of strength in depth to replace them when they weren't available for whatever reason. If we don't learn from the mistakes of the past, then we are doomed to keep repeating them. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.08am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

We will not replace any of them.
Any upgrades will be to the starting 11.

Our problem last season was not our starting 11, but the lack of strength in depth to replace them when they weren't available for whatever reason. If we don't learn from the mistakes of the past, then we are doomed to keep repeating them.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

CoombsyEagle Melbourne 20 Jun 17 9.11am
Four weeks to recruit a manager having been through this process regularly since returning to the Premier league is ludicrous. Surely SP along with the other directors should continuously update a short list of 3 to 4 candidates so that when the need arises the process can be concluded within a much shorter timeframe ie: a week after having conducted 3 or 4 interviews ? I wonder what damage would have been done if we were in the middle of a difficult season and waiting this long to recruit a new manger ? 13 days and counting until the start of pre-season, let's hope that we are more prepared than we were for the opener against WBA last season.

CoombsyEagle

Melbourne 20 Jun 17 9.11am

Four weeks to recruit a manager having been through this process regularly since returning to the Premier league is ludicrous.

Surely SP along with the other directors should continuously update a short list of 3 to 4 candidates so that when the need arises the process can be concluded within a much shorter timeframe ie: a week after having conducted 3 or 4 interviews ?

I wonder what damage would have been done if we were in the middle of a difficult season and waiting this long to recruit a new manger ?

13 days and counting until the start of pre-season, let's hope that we are more prepared than we were for the opener against WBA last season.

alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.12am
Originally posted by bexleydave Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads". I'd like a pound for the number of times I've heard how we're guaranteed to get a result against this or that team, because we are so superior to them, only to see us fail miserably. We underestimate Huddersfield, or any other team, at our peril. If you'd actually read the article you'd see that most PL clubs, including Brighton, have a superior scouting network to us. How exactly are we to make these four or five additions to the squad without a manager? The idea that everything's fine, if we haven't made a managerial appointment by the time the season kicks off, is the real thinking of the madhouse. Our scouting network has been pretty good in the last two Windows. Steve learnt a lot in the first one with Holloway after promotion. It's just a shame that in your eyes every club seems to be better than the Palace. Yet we are the 14th best club in England. You certainly don't get that feel on the HOL. Palace 13th 2017/18.

alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.12am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads".

Our scouting network has been pretty good in the last two Windows.
Steve learnt a lot in the first one with Holloway after promotion.
It's just a shame that in your eyes every club seems to be better than the Palace.
Yet we are the 14th best club in England.
You certainly don't get that feel on the HOL.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.16am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 You praise the Watford style of recruitment yet want stability at Palace.? I don't think I've ever mentioned "stability"; your either confusing me with Theresa May or Steve Parish I've long since given up hope of making a long-term managerial appointment, because apart from a few notable exceptions, they don't happen in football. If we could appoint someone who was here for two seasons before unexpectedly announcing his departure, I'd mark that up as a success. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.16am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

You praise the Watford style of recruitment yet want stability at Palace.?

I don't think I've ever mentioned "stability"; your either confusing me with Theresa May or Steve Parish

I've long since given up hope of making a long-term managerial appointment, because apart from a few notable exceptions, they don't happen in football. If we could appoint someone who was here for two seasons before unexpectedly announcing his departure, I'd mark that up as a success.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.16am
Originally posted by bexleydave Our problem last season was not our starting 11, but the lack of strength in depth to replace them when they weren't available for whatever reason. If we don't learn from the mistakes of the past, then we are doomed to keep repeating them. The problem was clearly the lads were not playing as a team for Pardew. Once Sam got the four new lads in the Improvement in the other seven was remarkable. Hence the wins against Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool. Palace 13th 2017/18.

alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 9.16am

Originally posted by bexleydave

The problem was clearly the lads were not playing as a team for Pardew.
Once Sam got the four new lads in the
Improvement in the other seven was remarkable.
Hence the wins against Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

Nobbybm Dartford 20 Jun 17 9.19am
Originally posted by bexleydave Conversely Dyche could put an immediate end to the speculation by issuing a statement to that effect, if he really has no interest in the Palace job. Absolutely. I sometimes wonder if Sky are bunging clubs a few quid to allow these stories to circulate. Keeps up interest in SSN, their website & the papers they're connected with. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Nobbybm

Dartford 20 Jun 17 9.19am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Conversely Dyche could put an immediate end to the speculation by issuing a statement to that effect, if he really has no interest in the Palace job.

Absolutely.

I sometimes wonder if Sky are bunging clubs a few quid to allow these stories to circulate. Keeps up interest in SSN, their website & the papers they're connected with.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.21am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 Our scouting network has been pretty good in the last two Windows. Steve learnt a lot in the first one with Holloway after promotion. It's just a shame that in your eyes every club seems to be better than the Palace. Yet we are the 14th best club in England. You certainly don't get that feel on the HOL. I'd say our manager(s) have been pretty good at identifying targets. If we appoint a manager without the same sort of contacts, we may well find ourselves in a bit of difficulty. The generally acknowledged weaknesses of this club, that require serious investment, are the scouting network, the academy and the stadium and to pretend otherwise is to be in denial. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.21am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

I'd say our manager(s) have been pretty good at identifying targets. If we appoint a manager without the same sort of contacts, we may well find ourselves in a bit of difficulty.

The generally acknowledged weaknesses of this club, that require serious investment, are the scouting network, the academy and the stadium and to pretend otherwise is to be in denial.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

rawpalace05 Saltdean 20 Jun 17 9.22am
Originally posted by bexleydave Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads". I'd like a pound for the number of times I've heard how we're guaranteed to get a result against this or that team, because we are so superior to them, only to see us fail miserably. We underestimate Huddersfield, or any other team, at our peril. If you'd actually read the article you'd see that most PL clubs, including Brighton, have a superior scouting network to us. How exactly are we to make these four or five additions to the squad without a manager? The idea that everything's fine, if we haven't made a managerial appointment by the time the season kicks off, is the real thinking of the madhouse. I'm giving up being eloquent within posts, as I come on here and the same people keep harping on to the same tune, without having addressed my previous points. I'm not reading an article about championship scouting networks if the posting of it is designed to be detrimental to our owner. The fact is we've been in the premier league for a record 4 seasons, why would I question how we go about business? Why would any of you when you know bugger all about how it works? Lets just take things for face value, I'm not mentioning June 2010 any more but please, some perspective about his far we've come would be nice...speaking of which, no I would never bank on results against anyone, however I'm just trying to instil some kind of calm around here as most people seem to be getting their nickers all tangled on a daily basis. Just chill out people, this constant flapping is totally unwarranted. At the very least let's keep this to "next manager discussion/updates" and the other Parish thread be for , well just that. I'm coming on here to find out more, instead I just keep hearing how s*** the club is at everything. Thanks 1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010. palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rawpalace05

Saltdean 20 Jun 17 9.22am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Instead of ranting perhaps you should try and construct a cogent argument without the theatrics and without telling others they're "off their heads".

I'm giving up being eloquent within posts, as I come on here and the same people keep harping on to the same tune, without having addressed my previous points.

I'm not reading an article about championship scouting networks if the posting of it is designed to be detrimental to our owner. The fact is we've been in the premier league for a record 4 seasons, why would I question how we go about business? Why would any of you when you know bugger all about how it works?

Lets just take things for face value, I'm not mentioning June 2010 any more but please, some perspective about his far we've come would be nice...speaking of which, no I would never bank on results against anyone, however I'm just trying to instil some kind of calm around here as most people seem to be getting their nickers all tangled on a daily basis.

Just chill out people, this constant flapping is totally unwarranted. At the very least let's keep this to "next manager discussion/updates" and the other Parish thread be for , well just that.

I'm coming on here to find out more, instead I just keep hearing how s*** the club is at everything.

Thanks

1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 9.24am
Originally posted by bexleydave I don't think I've ever mentioned "stability"; your either confusing me with Theresa May or Steve Parish I've long since given up hope of making a long-term managerial appointment, because apart from a few notable exceptions, they don't happen in football. If we could appoint someone who was here for two seasons before unexpectedly announcing his departure, I'd mark that up as a success. I heard on TV one of the journalists who said that managers were really like consultants.They are appointed and after a year they are gone and someone else is appointed.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 9.24am

Originally posted by bexleydave

I don't think I've ever mentioned "stability"; your either confusing me with Theresa May or Steve Parish

I heard on TV one of the journalists who said that managers were really like consultants.They are appointed and after a year they are gone and someone else is appointed.

Nobbybm Dartford 20 Jun 17 9.29am
Oddly, the Palace app news feed has gone down on my phone- probably just tech issues but you never know....... Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Nobbybm

Dartford 20 Jun 17 9.29am

Oddly, the Palace app news feed has gone down on my phone- probably just tech issues but you never know.......

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

bexleydave Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.30am
Originally posted by alaneagle1 The problem was clearly the lads were not playing as a team for Pardew. Once Sam got the four new lads in the Improvement in the other seven was remarkable. Hence the wins against Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool. And if any or all of those four are injured? Or some other ever-present or two is/are out for the duration? We've already found out that you can't operate without adequate cover; it has nearly relegated us in the past. The most successful clubs have two first 11s and that's what we should be aiming for. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 9.30am

Originally posted by alaneagle1

And if any or all of those four are injured? Or some other ever-present or two is/are out for the duration? We've already found out that you can't operate without adequate cover; it has nearly relegated us in the past. The most successful clubs have two first 11s and that's what we should be aiming for.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

dp Tunbridge Wells 20 Jun 17 9.32am
Originally posted by Willo I heard on TV one of the journalists who said that managers were really like consultants.They are appointed and after a year they are gone and someone else is appointed. That is probably a good way to look at it Willo. Although it does rather fly in the face of what Parish said about wanting a long term appointment.

Tunbridge Wells 20 Jun 17 9.32am

Originally posted by Willo

I heard on TV one of the journalists who said that managers were really like consultants.They are appointed and after a year they are gone and someone else is appointed.

That is probably a good way to look at it Willo. Although it does rather fly in the face of what Parish said about wanting a long term appointment.

dp Tunbridge Wells 20 Jun 17 9.50am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle We released Campbell, Flamini, Fryers, Ledley and Remy so we need five players just to replace them let alone to upgrade the squad and when you say that with the players that we've got and no manager we should be able to beat Huddersfield you forget who gave Burnley their only away win at the end of the last season The original post said that we "should be able to compete" with Huddersfield. We should all agree with that. The main problem is that this is a banana skin of an opening fixture, it is one we need to win.

Tunbridge Wells 20 Jun 17 9.50am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The original post said that we "should be able to compete" with Huddersfield. We should all agree with that. The main problem is that this is a banana skin of an opening fixture, it is one we need to win.

Lyons550 Shirley 20 Jun 17 9.52am
Originally posted by Dan89 It seems after all this searching we narrowed it down to 3. Who's you 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. Mine is 1st de Boer , 2nd pellergino 3rd dyche Like to hear yours That would be mine also. For me FDB will have a greater impact on the structure of the club as well as helping develop the Academy and scouting setups due to his links with Ajax; however I think as a manager Pelligrino would have the edge AND has worked with Sammy lee before. Tough call, but i'd be happy with any of them to be fair at this juncture. How about Pelligrino as Manager and FDB as Director Of Football??? Now THAT would be class and a real statement of intent!! The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

Lyons550

Shirley 20 Jun 17 9.52am

Originally posted by Dan89

It seems after all this searching we narrowed it down to 3. Who's you 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice.

Mine is

1st de Boer , 2nd pellergino 3rd dyche

Like to hear yours

That would be mine also. For me FDB will have a greater impact on the structure of the club as well as helping develop the Academy and scouting setups due to his links with Ajax; however I think as a manager Pelligrino would have the edge AND has worked with Sammy lee before. Tough call, but i'd be happy with any of them to be fair at this juncture.

How about Pelligrino as Manager and FDB as Director Of Football??? Now THAT would be class and a real statement of intent!!

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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