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DanH SW2 07 Jun 17 2.04pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle You do realise that Brexit still hasn't happened yet? I'm not anti-Brexit per se FYI - but I'm waiting for it to actually happen before passing judgement on its success or failure... The number of people who haven't quite grasped this quite basic and fundamental point is ridiculous.

DanH

SW2 07 Jun 17 2.04pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You do realise that Brexit still hasn't happened yet?

I'm not anti-Brexit per se FYI - but I'm waiting for it to actually happen before passing judgement on its success or failure...

The number of people who haven't quite grasped this quite basic and fundamental point is ridiculous.

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 17 2.05pm
Originally posted by DanH Someone should have shown that poll to Theresa May before she called the election. BS, nothing important is happening until after the German elections anyway. This was the window. After this election all effective opposition to the manner of Brexit negotiations will be stamped out. I'm really quite enjoying this. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 17 2.05pm

Originally posted by DanH

Someone should have shown that poll to Theresa May before she called the election.

BS, nothing important is happening until after the German elections anyway. This was the window.

After this election all effective opposition to the manner of Brexit negotiations will be stamped out.

I'm really quite enjoying this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Jun 17 2.07pm
John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor: [from the New Statesman] "A lengthy 2006 interview with the Trotskyist Alliance for Workers’ Liberty ... Asked to name the “most significant” influences on his thought, McDonnell replied: “The fundamental Marxist writers of Marx, Lenin and Trotsky, basically.” We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 07 Jun 17 2.07pm

John McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor: [from the New Statesman]
"A lengthy 2006 interview with the Trotskyist Alliance for Workers’ Liberty ... Asked to name the “most significant” influences on his thought, McDonnell replied: “The fundamental Marxist writers of Marx, Lenin and Trotsky, basically.”

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 17 2.07pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle You do realise that Brexit still hasn't happened yet? I'm not anti-Brexit per se FYI - but I'm waiting for it to actually happen before passing judgement on its success or failure... Maybe ten years after Brexit. The effect of something major like this is properly measured over time. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 17 2.07pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You do realise that Brexit still hasn't happened yet?

I'm not anti-Brexit per se FYI - but I'm waiting for it to actually happen before passing judgement on its success or failure...

Maybe ten years after Brexit.

The effect of something major like this is properly measured over time.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jun 17 2.08pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 The should hold a follow up referendum tomorrow as well - the Brexit vote would increase significantly as the electorate have seen that all the scaremongering predictions have not come to pass. Really, I think if there was a second referendum, the vote probably would go the other way. I couldn't say with your certainty that I am right. Also, with an election due the following day, its almost certainly the case that the nation would want to bloody the governments nose. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 07 Jun 17 2.08pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

The should hold a follow up referendum tomorrow as well - the Brexit vote would increase significantly as the electorate have seen that all the scaremongering predictions have not come to pass.

Really, I think if there was a second referendum, the vote probably would go the other way. I couldn't say with your certainty that I am right.

Also, with an election due the following day, its almost certainly the case that the nation would want to bloody the governments nose.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

Hansy 07 Jun 17 2.09pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Are conservatives pro-responsible spending though. Cuts in the police in an era where terrorism is the primary national threat (which protecting military spending from Austerity). Yet £1.9bn extra was pumped into Cyber Defence, where we also saw terrorism not too long ago. Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

Hansy

07 Jun 17 2.09pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Are conservatives pro-responsible spending though. Cuts in the police in an era where terrorism is the primary national threat (which protecting military spending from Austerity).

Yet £1.9bn extra was pumped into Cyber Defence, where we also saw terrorism not too long ago.

Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.12pm
Originally posted by DanH Someone should have shown that poll to Theresa May before she called the election. I raise you Tim Farron. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.12pm

Originally posted by DanH

Someone should have shown that poll to Theresa May before she called the election.

I raise you Tim Farron.

COYP

jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Jun 17 2.15pm
Originally posted by Hansy Yet £1.9bn extra was pumped into Cyber Defence, where we also saw terrorism not too long ago. Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.09pm) I'm very curious as to what the 1.9bn was spent on, because most of the vulnerability of government systems is due to the increasingly aged operating systems in use. I'm betting its on 'experts, specialists and advisors' "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 07 Jun 17 2.15pm

Originally posted by Hansy

Yet £1.9bn extra was pumped into Cyber Defence, where we also saw terrorism not too long ago.

Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

I'm very curious as to what the 1.9bn was spent on, because most of the vulnerability of government systems is due to the increasingly aged operating systems in use.

I'm betting its on 'experts, specialists and advisors'

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 17 2.17pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 The number of people who are too stupid to realise that the politicians are getting on with Brexit is.... 68%.... In reality the 68 percent are complaining about the remoaners rather than the political progress. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2017 2.17pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 17 2.17pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The number of people who are too stupid to realise that the politicians are getting on with Brexit is.... 68%....

In reality the 68 percent are complaining about the remoaners rather than the political progress.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2017 2.17pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 07 Jun 17 2.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Maybe ten years after Brexit. The effect of something major like this is properly measured over time. Well quite.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 07 Jun 17 2.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Maybe ten years after Brexit.

The effect of something major like this is properly measured over time.

Well quite.

hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Jun 17 2.24pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Really, I think if there was a second referendum, the vote probably would go the other way. I couldn't say with your certainty that I am right. Also, with an election due the following day, its almost certainly the case that the nation would want to bloody the governments nose. What about a third referendum, how do you think that would go? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 07 Jun 17 2.24pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Really, I think if there was a second referendum, the vote probably would go the other way. I couldn't say with your certainty that I am right.

Also, with an election due the following day, its almost certainly the case that the nation would want to bloody the governments nose.

What about a third referendum, how do you think that would go?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.27pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I just want a government that will raise revenue responsibly and spend on services responsibly. Amen. What Nick Clegg tapped into and lost a generation by giving up his no tuition fees pledge. For us to get there we'd possibly need an election that would deliver a government for about 15 years. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.27pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I just want a government that will raise revenue responsibly and spend on services responsibly.

Amen.

What Nick Clegg tapped into and lost a generation by giving up his no tuition fees pledge.

For us to get there we'd possibly need an election that would deliver a government for about 15 years.

COYP

Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.27pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 What about a third referendum, how do you think that would go? To penalties. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 07 Jun 17 2.27pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What about a third referendum, how do you think that would go?

To penalties.

COYP

davenotamonkey 07 Jun 17 2.29pm
Got to say, I'm loving the #LastMinuteCorbynSmears thing on Twitter. [Tweet Link]

davenotamonkey

07 Jun 17 2.29pm

Got to say, I'm loving the #LastMinuteCorbynSmears thing on Twitter.

[Tweet Link]

Stirlingsays 07 Jun 17 2.36pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Got to say, I'm loving the #LastMinuteCorbynSmears thing on Twitter. [Tweet Link] The number of British soldiers those w-nkers murdered yet the so called 'principled' man walks behind one of its leaders. Not a chance in hell. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2017 2.37pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

07 Jun 17 2.36pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Got to say, I'm loving the #LastMinuteCorbynSmears thing on Twitter.

[Tweet Link]

The number of British soldiers those w-nkers murdered yet the so called 'principled' man walks behind one of its leaders.

Not a chance in hell.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2017 2.37pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jun 17 2.45pm
errr...you that's not Corbyn you rabble-rousing tits. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 07 Jun 17 2.45pm

errr...you that's not Corbyn you rabble-rousing tits.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

serial thriller The Promised Land 07 Jun 17 2.51pm
It is incredible how negative the Tories are now. They have no positive message to give the public at all! 13 pages in the front of the daily mail, all smears about Corbyn and his team. They are running scared. While Theresa May is on her private plane, JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 07 Jun 17 2.51pm

It is incredible how negative the Tories are now. They have no positive message to give the public at all! 13 pages in the front of the daily mail, all smears about Corbyn and his team. They are running scared.

While Theresa May is on her private plane, JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

We are goin up! Coulsdon 07 Jun 17 2.53pm
Originally posted by serial thriller It is incredible how negative the Tories are now. They have no positive message to give the public at all! 13 pages in the front of the daily mail, all smears about Corbyn and his team. They are running scared. While Theresa May is on her private plane, JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words. Erm. With respect you're damaging your own argument here. He's always going to win big in London. He's galvanising his base. He's barely done any work in swing seats whilst May is making sure to campaign in as many of them as possible. Do you really think making safe London seats safer is going to win the election? Why is he bothering with London? It's already red. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We are goin up!

Coulsdon 07 Jun 17 2.53pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

While Theresa May is on her private plane, JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words.

Erm. With respect you're damaging your own argument here. He's always going to win big in London. He's galvanising his base. He's barely done any work in swing seats whilst May is making sure to campaign in as many of them as possible. Do you really think making safe London seats safer is going to win the election? Why is he bothering with London? It's already red.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Hansy 07 Jun 17 2.54pm
Originally posted by serial thriller JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words. So did Bernie Sanders in the US, and he wasn't even running for President. Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.54pm)

Hansy

07 Jun 17 2.54pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

JC is gonna have 100000 in the streets of london tonight. Mark my words.

So did Bernie Sanders in the US, and he wasn't even running for President.

Edited by Hansy (07 Jun 2017 2.54pm)

Hansy 07 Jun 17 2.56pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! Erm. With respect you're damaging your own argument here. He's always going to win big in London. He's galvanising his base. He's barely done any work in swing seats whilst May is making sure to campaign in as many of them as possible. Do you really think making safe London seats safer is going to win the election? Why is he bothering with London? It's already red. He has done this most of the campaign. I remember seeing the Gateshead rally. And thinking, this was largely Labour last election why is he there?

Hansy

07 Jun 17 2.56pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

He has done this most of the campaign. I remember seeing the Gateshead rally. And thinking, this was largely Labour last election why is he there?

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