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Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 20 Jun 17 11.25am

I'm all for Dyche and anyone who thinks Pellagrino is progression needs to have a long hard look at football.

Pellegrino is a poor mans pardew, got sacked, went to Argentina...didn't pull up any trees whilst there with two different clubs. Then finished mid table in la liga and got to a cup final. At least Pardew has got to two cup finals and lost. When we finished mid-table and got to a cup final, many on here were maoning. Now we want a man with less premier league experience and with a lesser win% record and we see that as progression.

FDB I would hold in similar regard, did well with Ajax and was horrific at Inter. Team turned against him and struggled tactically when up against it.

Dyche is right, ppl hold overseas managers in such high regard. Marco silver got hull relegated and look how people are talking about him. Didn't win away all year. You get Fat Sam or Pulis and they would have kept Hull up.

All I'm saying is I feel that Dyche should be held on par if not greater than these other two. We need a good manager, not just a foreign fancy name.

 

Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 20 Jun 17 11.35am

Originally posted by Simon Jordan for PM

Disappointing yes and not progress given my understanding is that the club interviewed him a few years ago before he went to Burnley and deemed he wasn't what palace were looking for. Surely going back on that decision now wouldn't look good it'd be a bit like meeting up with your ex girlfriend and trying to decide whether you should make another go of it! Personally I would rather the club take a gamble on someone like Ryan giggs than go for Dyche and I don't even like giggs and never thought I'd find myself suggesting we should go for him but he would be preferable to dyche!

Off your rocker mate

 


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GladAllOver27 Flag 20 Jun 17 11.40am

Hope this doesn't affend the sensitive butterflies. Thought this picture was funny.

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sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 20 Jun 17 11.43am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Manager Thoughts' by kenbarr

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Firstly this will probably be in the main thread next time you look and secondly Puel may have taken Southampton to 8th place but their 46 points was only six points more than Dyche's Burnley yet Southampton had a vastly greater player budget to work with.

It would have been interesting to see where Southampton and Burnley would have ended up if each had the opposing manager in charge last year

Firstly, it ain't yet

Secondly, you miss my point about the stress Puel was under. Dyche had an easy time in terms of support from the board, Puel on the other hand knew that Southampton had very publibly stated quite early that his position would be reviewed at the end of the season. The stress this would put on anyone is immense, never mind being a Prem manager. So to answer you point, yes it would be interesting to see how they would have done if their roles were reversed, would Dyche have buckled under the pressure? Imponderables I know, but a straight comparison in the circumstances doesn't stand scrutiny.

 


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Den1923 Flag 20 Jun 17 11.53am

Originally posted by GladAllOver27

Hope this doesn't affend the sensitive butterflies. Thought this picture was funny.

Brilliant a picture is worth thousand words!

 

lefty27 Flag ipswich 20 Jun 17 11.56am

Originally posted by bexleydave

The latest accounts show a salary of £692,000 paid to a single director (page 1:

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Edited by bexleydave (20 Jun 2017 10.38am)


It doesn't state which director got paid, it could be the one of the Americans wants a return on their investment.
It also says our turnover was 101000 ish with 11k of that gate reciepts which is wrong.
Unless someone is a chartered accountant and knows the ins and outs of all the companies involved in CPFC it is way to simplistic to jump to the conclusion that Parish is paying himself a fortune.
If it turns out he has paid himself 692000 so what? It's a one off drawing not an annual salary and I am pretty sure he has put more of his own time and money in over the years.
FFS what has this got to do with anything?!?!?

 

Den1923 Flag 20 Jun 17 12.03pm

This is seriously worrying, with most clubs reporting back for pre-season preparation at the end of the month and we are still without a manager, no action in the transfer market, which despite what some think we desperately need as we have some serious big holes in the current first eleven and even more so in the squad. SP states he is looking for a long term manager, we have had 7 in the last seven years and this one when appointed will be number eight, so does such a manager exist?, surely results and league position will decide how long he stays, whatever we do need this sorted and quick now!

 

Painter Flag Croydon 20 Jun 17 12.17pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That information is out of date as the directors may not have paid themselves anything in the last financial year but SP now pays himself £650,000 pa

Has he had a pay rise, you stated £600,000 yesterday!

 

Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 12.19pm

Originally posted by Den1923

This is seriously worrying, with most clubs reporting back for pre-season preparation at the end of the month and we are still without a manager, no action in the transfer market, which despite what some think we desperately need as we have some serious big holes in the current first eleven and even more so in the squad. SP states he is looking for a long term manager, we have had 7 in the last seven years and this one when appointed will be number eight, so does such a manager exist?, surely results and league position will decide how long he stays, whatever we do need this sorted and quick now!

Whilst I agree about strengthening the squad. Our first 11 is still here Hennessy,ward,dann,Tomkins,PVA,puncheon,Luka,Cabaye, Townsend ,Zaha and Benteke. Without the exception of Sakho. That's still a strong 11. Granted some areas need upgrading like gk,rb,attacking mid in the first 11.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 12.25pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Manager Thoughts' by kenbarr

De Boer please although it seems as the most unlikely. We seem to waiting on Southampton to make a decision.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 20 Jun 17 12.30pm

Originally posted by Den1923

This is seriously worrying, with most clubs reporting back for pre-season preparation at the end of the month and we are still without a manager, no action in the transfer market, which despite what some think we desperately need as we have some serious big holes in the current first eleven and even more so in the squad. SP states he is looking for a long term manager, we have had 7 in the last seven years and this one when appointed will be number eight, so does such a manager exist?, surely results and league position will decide how long he stays, whatever we do need this sorted and quick now!

Why do you keep repeating the same old stuff. Haven't you anything new to add.

 

alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 12.31pm

Originally posted by bexleydave


And if any or all of those four are injured? Or some other ever-present or two is/are out for the duration? We've already found out that you can't operate without adequate cover; it has nearly relegated us in the past. The most successful clubs have two first 11s and that's what we should be aiming for.

There are not many clubs with two successful elevens.
We are improving Year on Year,as I say we will recruit one or two once the new manager is on board.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 17 12.35pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'New Manager Thoughts' by kenbarr

Originally posted by Dan89

De Boer please although it seems as the most unlikely. We seem to waiting on Southampton to make a decision.

Hopefully they make the right one for them and choose de Boer.

It will be truly bizarre if we both end up with the man suited better to the other team.

 


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Den1923 Flag 20 Jun 17 12.44pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Whilst I agree about strengthening the squad. Our first 11 is still here Hennessy,ward,dann,Tomkins,PVA,puncheon,Luka,Cabaye, Townsend ,Zaha and Benteke. Without the exception of Sakho. That's still a strong 11. Granted some areas need upgrading like gk,rb,attacking mid in the first 11.

Its the Sakho position that is of real concern, when he is not playing we look vulnerable at the back and I agree the other position you are saying need to be upgraded but what is the real concern is without a manager in place we cannot progress and prepare for the challenge ahead and we are therefore currently losing opportunities especially as most of our competition seem to be very active and much more well prepared than we are at this time!

 

Den1923 Flag 20 Jun 17 12.48pm

Originally posted by Painter

Why do you keep repeating the same old stuff. Haven't you anything new to add.

are always so rude?

 

Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 20 Jun 17 12.54pm

Parish pays himself 600k a year? Is that a big deal when Benteke's on more than £5m a year, and there almost certainly isn't a first teamer on much less than Parish? Who's more important to the wellbeing and success of this club? Who takes all our shyte week in, week out? Who has to go find a new boss every 6-8 months? Who's got to fix the academy, the scouting network, sign new players, fix the stadium, deal with bigshot yankee investors, PL officialdom, acts of idiocy from lighter-throwing morons, all while retaining the soul of the club...

And if it's a risk-free investment that he made to get his 600k a year: good. I'd rather that than some moron whose ego buys the club for top dollar (putting money in the hands of the seller) and whose fiscal stupidity puts us back in admin two years later (a bit of a popular business model).

Parish may have loads of faults and our consistent success on the pitch under his leadership could have been the result of multiple lucky decisions. His appreciation of the need for quick decisions may be out just as some are suggesting -- and we could be a house of cards that's waiting to fall in on itself. But we are still very much in a period where Steve Parish deserves a huge amount of our trust.


 


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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 20 Jun 17 12.56pm

Originally posted by lefty27

It doesn't state which director got paid, it could be the one of the Americans wants a return on their investment.
It also says our turnover was 101000 ish with 11k of that gate reciepts which is wrong.
Unless someone is a chartered accountant and knows the ins and outs of all the companies involved in CPFC it is way to simplistic to jump to the conclusion that Parish is paying himself a fortune.
If it turns out he has paid himself 692000 so what? It's a one off drawing not an annual salary and I am pretty sure he has put more of his own time and money in over the years.
FFS what has this got to do with anything?!?!?

Calm down. It was posted in response to a post relating to an out-of-date article stating that none of the Palace directors took a salary, which is no longer the case. Of course it's Parish, return on investment wouldn't be shown as a directors salary. No one has commented on whether he's entitled to it or not, and I personally have no problem with it, but let's not pretend that he's doing it for love. He puts in the time and gets paid for it; that is all.

 


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Dan89 Flag Se25 20 Jun 17 12.58pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Its the Sakho position that is of real concern, when he is not playing we look vulnerable at the back and I agree the other position you are saying need to be upgraded but what is the real concern is without a manager in place we cannot progress and prepare for the challenge ahead and we are therefore currently losing opportunities especially as most of our competition seem to be very active and much more well prepared than we are at this time!

I'm a desperate as anyone to a get a new manager. Most of the seasons, we are underprepared going into season, like last season with Benteke transfer saga dragging on. Since being in the premier league, we've left most of our transfer business until the last 2 weeks.
Here's the squad that started the first game against wba .

Hennessy,ward, dann, Delaney, soaure , jedinak, puncheon, Townsend, chungy, Zaha and wickham.

So in an ideal world we love to have our 25 man squad in place when we face Huddersfield. This never happens. Can understand the frustration with manager but even if we didn't sign anybody for the Huddersfield game. We in a stronger position this season . As long we have a manager in situ. I'm sure we will strengthen the squad with 3 or 4 but will probably be the last 2 weeks of August.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 17 1.04pm

Originally posted by Painter

Has he had a pay rise, you stated £600,000 yesterday!

I'm sure that I said £600,000 ish as I couldn't remember the exact figure so I was only out by £92,000 and what's that trifling sum between friends anyway

 

slubglurge Flag welling 20 Jun 17 1.06pm

Enough is enough lets double his salary and beg Sam to reconsider. Hes better than all the sub standard candidates anyway

 

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