Hrolf, I raised this point with Rudi yesterday - you very loudly objected to any stereotyping of Brexiters on this board throughout the referendum. Why do you see fit to stereotype a different group of society in exactly the same manner?

History is created by the young, who then grow up and bitch about how s**t the youth of today are, and how much better we were at being young.

To paraphrase Cicero.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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In my experience, younger people learn, and older people lecture. Neither actually admits their wrong - you can batter people with demonstrable facts all day, and they'll still be saying the same stupid things the next day.

Its because we're all c**ts.

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I haven't. I am speaking from my experience.

That is how people generally form opinions and that is key to what I am suggesting about the young. They are not well qualified to make decisions regarding the national interest because they have not lived long enough to gain sufficient life experience or perspective.
Even if you never become smart or educated, you should at least have that.

Probably an element of delusion with your knowledge expanding everyday whilst believing everyone else has never had similar. Problem is their experiences will often be within 3 square miles and when you're in competition with 6 other grads for every other job, and that's at the final stage, there's your 1st peg knocking experience. Then another when you find all your colleagues have degrees, or not and you'd never thought they didn't. And that's just work reality.

Some of the parents who voted leave of students who voted remain will have been to university as well. It would be quite useful for something like this to be aired. All leavers are not bigoted morons and they might be you in 25 year's time.

COYP

I love your optimism that this applies to people of older age groups. We're a nation of f**king idiots.

Life experience is largely the battering of your self by societies pressures, obligations and responsibilities that you stop caring about anything other than making it to the next deadline, until we hit the grave.

Lets face it, if we were responsible, informed and intelligent enough, we'd have resolved societies problems by now, and yet we still have more or less the same problems that all societies have had.

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All stereotypes come from people's experiences, it doesn't make them right.

To use your previous post as an example, if I was to say;

Brexiters are all racists who have no idea the true implications of leaving the EU. Most brexiters, particularly from the north of the country, spout bigoted nonsense that they probably read in the daily mail.

I'd ban them from voting.

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If I say that's based on my experiences of the tiny percentage of Brexiters that I've seen/head from, that's ok?

This a straw man argument, circular logic and stating the obvious all in one post.

I was not stereotyping anyone and it is obvious that stereotyping comes from experience since all consciousness is experience and stereotyping is a human construct. This makes the details of a stereotype neither right or wrong.

The police can save on disposal costs from raids too. Once they've tested it they can distribute the good stuff to the locals. Like meals on wheels.

Optimistic as ever

Not saying this is you but in general it's irritating that people who previously paid zero attention to currency exchanges or share indexes all of a sudden become experts and use declines to justify their own arguments. For example when the FTSE 250 was 10k in 2012 no one cared. All of a sudden it's 15.5k and the world falling apart!

If I asked what that reduction in value against USD meant for the average person, I'd say 99% of them using it as their argument couldn't answer it. I'd also say that majority of those quoting exchange rates as a point of angry justification for why remain was correct are only angry because they have a holiday booked. So it's basic selfishness.