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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by Dan89
Advised to keep their counsel ?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Steve Parish can take as long as he likes. It's his (and the others) club and he's running it. The 'supporters' don't own a single penny of the club. They pay to watch a match and the product they are buying is viewing a match from a seat. After the match ends, the club owes that supporter absolutely nothing and the 'supporter's' investment is finished. That's the reality, not what many want to accept but that's it. Some might argue that without 'Supporters' there is no club but of course the converse is true and we have been dangerously near to that situation. Finally, the comments have led me to conclude that the instigator perhaps views those who come along week on week as "Customers" rather than supporters.
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| Dan89 Se25 20 Jun 17 3.55pm |
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We moaning about announcements. When the club already made one today.
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
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| Midlands Eagle 20 Jun 17 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Steve Parish can take as long as he likes. It's his (and the others) club and he's running it. The 'supporters' don't own a single penny of the club. They pay to watch a match and the product they are buying is viewing a match from a seat. After the match ends, the club owes that supporter absolutely nothing and the 'supporter's' investment is finished. That's the reality, not what many want to accept but that's it. That's a rather unusual view as even Steve Parish has publically stated that he is merely the custodian of the club. We may not be shareholders in the company but we are all stakeholders and if everyone decided to withdraw their support that would signify the beginning of the end as the club would soon be unviable with no customers
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europalace  Europe 20 Jun 17 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Some might argue that without 'Supporters' there is no club but of course the converse is true and we have been dangerously near to that situation. Finally, the comments have led me to conclude that the instigator perhaps views those who come along week on week as "Customers" rather than supporters.
With regards to the comment that there wouldn't be a club without supporters, logically yes. However in reality, all those watching the clubs matches right now wouldnt stop watching all at the same time and those that did stop would be replaced with others pretty quickly. If you are a regular cinema goer, you not a cinema supporter, you're a customer. Same for a football club. The term 'supporter' is just that a term that's been used incorrectly for decades but that still doesn't remove the fact that those that pay to watch a match own zero of the club they're watching unless they own shares in that club, which we all know, nearly all do not.
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| Bangell Oxford 20 Jun 17 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Dan89
We moaning about announcements. When the club already made one today. I haven't seen this?
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Den1923  20 Jun 17 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Steve Parish can take as long as he likes. It's his (and the others) club and he's running it. The 'supporters' don't own a single penny of the club. They pay to watch a match and the product they are buying is viewing a match from a seat. After the match ends, the club owes that supporter absolutely nothing and the 'supporter's' investment is finished. That's the reality, not what many want to accept but that's it. Customers(Supporters) are the life blood of any business and they have a right to expect the best and get what they pay for. True Palace fans are loyal having stuck with the club through the good and many bad times over the years. I doubt if SP who is a good businessman would subscribe to your viewpoint.
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| Dan89 Se25 20 Jun 17 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by Bangell
I haven't seen this? Birthday message to hangeland. I didn't say it was mangerial . Maybe not the right time to joke.
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
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| fish mitten Chelmsford 20 Jun 17 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by hastingseagle67
Most teams players aren't back for pre season for at least 13-18 days. Even if it takes another week to get a manager, he would still have a whole week to find his way around the club before working with the players. Whilst I can see this, we have just released a few of the first team squad, who will need replacing. 4 weeks should have been long enough to make an appointment.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
With regards to the comment that there wouldn't be a club without supporters, logically yes. However in reality, all those watching the clubs matches right now wouldnt stop watching all at the same time and those that did stop would be replaced with others pretty quickly. If you are a regular cinema goer, you not a cinema supporter, you're a customer. Same for a football club. The term 'supporter' is just that a term that's been used incorrectly for decades but that still doesn't remove the fact that those that pay to watch a match own zero of the club they're watching unless they own shares in that club, which we all know, nearly all do not. Katrien Meire, Chief Exec of Charlton received a great deal of opprobrium by referring to supporters as "Customers" ! One can get into semantics but I feel that the word "Customer" doesn't do justice to those who have followed the club through the decades, spent hard earned money on their club and have the very 'Fabric' of the club embedded in their souls.Bit different to being a film buff !!!!!
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| Bangell Oxford 20 Jun 17 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by Dan89
Birthday message to hangeland. I didn't say it was mangerial . Maybe not the right time to joke. Or maybe he's being lined up?
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Jun 17 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by fish mitten
Whilst I can see this, we have just released a few of the first team squad, who will need replacing. 4 weeks should have been long enough to make an appointment. Hardly worth replacing are they.
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| Dan89 Se25 20 Jun 17 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Bangell
Or maybe he's being lined up? Could well be. Lol
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
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| Stuart Shave Hampshire 20 Jun 17 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by fish mitten
Whilst I can see this, we have just released a few of the first team squad, who will need replacing. 4 weeks should have been long enough to make an appointment. Given the nature of when the appointment was needed (2 days after the season finished), I disagree. Managers and Club officials on holiday and out of the country with family. What it has done has given us plenty of time, to either identify the perfect appointment and wait until he is officially available or thoroughly 'interview' the chosen. Thr right man doesn't happen overnight - particulary convincing a good manager that Crystal Palace are going to match his ambitions. Other clubs don't necessarily have to do that, clubs like us do.
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| Midlands Eagle 20 Jun 17 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
most media seem to be reporting Pellegrino is going to Saints, which leaves FDB for us? I guess that's the pecking order of the Prem. We can't compete with what Saints can offer in terms or money, infrastructure, facilities etc Can't be much more work to do before one or both are offered contracts and announcements are made. Least then we can crack on with planning for next season. Unless Southampton surprise us all by going for someone completely different whereupon both will be clamouring for the Palace gig and SP will tell them to naff off as we don't want sloppy seconds Roy Hodgson it is then
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| Midlands Eagle 20 Jun 17 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stuart Shave
Given the nature of when the appointment was needed (2 days after the season finished), I disagree. Managers and Club officials on holiday and out of the country with family. We have been linked with quite a few potential managers over the weeks and with the exception of Sean Dyche all of them have been unemployed and I would have thought that employment would have been more important to them than a holiday especially as most won't have children of school age and can go on holiday at any time
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