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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 31 Oct 23 11.27am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Unless I have missed I note that Boris covid chaos is all over the BBC website this morning - whatsapp messages and all that and yet the fact that up in bonnie Scotland their guys deleted a gazillion whatsapp messages to do with covid and yet barely a murmur from Auntie - hmm - I wonder why?
They don't report the news - they only report the bits that suit their biased rhetoric!
Bias beyond bias - defund the leftie idiots!

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This thread is genuinely mental - basically descended into people moaning that they don't like the news.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Oct 23 12.58pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

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This thread is genuinely mental - basically descended into people moaning that they don't like the news.

i do like the News. But i hate propaganda, lies & bias.

and what passes for 'News' from the BBc ? i reckon they write all their broadcasts, for the year, on the first of January.

- climate change
- the Patriarchy

- guilt trips about the history of SOME slavery
- nasty China and nasty Russia are brutalising LGBT people

- victimhood & guilt trips about everything
- the gender pay-gap, boo hoo

- Cheddar man was the first Briton and he might have had sickle-cell anaemia.
- Balamory is a small Scottish fishing village with the same demographic as the West Croydon Labour party conference.

- Cheddar man had a Y chromozone, but she was a woman.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Oct 23 11.00pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

i do like the News. But i hate propaganda, lies & bias.

and what passes for 'News' from the BBc ? i reckon they write all their broadcasts, for the year, on the first of January.

- climate change
- the Patriarchy

- guilt trips about the history of SOME slavery
- nasty China and nasty Russia are brutalising LGBT people

- victimhood & guilt trips about everything
- the gender pay-gap, boo hoo

- Cheddar man was the first Briton and he might have had sickle-cell anaemia.
- Balamory is a small Scottish fishing village with the same demographic as the West Croydon Labour party conference.

- Cheddar man had a Y chromozone, but she was a woman.

You must hate what you wrote then!

It’s 100% propaganda, lies and bias.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 23 2.51pm

People don't usually need an in-depth analysis, mainly due to time, but BBC Verify fits the bill if you do need accuracy.

It's actually not great viewing but I thought well I would stay with it, the truth is 'rarely true and never simple'.

Here they verify Israel's attacks on the safe areas they ordered people to.

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JRW2 Flag Dulwich 01 Nov 23 5.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I would trust John Simpson to tell me the truth as he sees it every day.

I wouldn’t trust Dominic Cummings to even recognise the truth if it hit him in the face. He truly has a history built on lies.

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Nov 23 6.02pm

'BBC News Arabic launches emergency radio service for Gaza'.

Simply the best.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Nov 23 8.54pm

Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

Those who saw him in Durham might convince you.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Nov 23 10.52pm

Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

That's because you want to believe him.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Nov 23 7.20am

Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

Did you think he was lying about his trip to Northumbria? Was he not hated by the left then? Seems to me, they did not believe him then but many are now hanging on his every word

 

JRW2 Flag Dulwich 02 Nov 23 8.58am

[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3833194]

That's because you want to believe him.

??

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Nov 23 6.32am

I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered.

As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day.

It is no surprise that we had poor leadership during Covid, if you look at the Shadow Cabinet at the time would be difficult to make a winning argument the outcome would have been any better had they been in government

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

The Dolphin Flag 20 Nov 23 6.33pm

A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline.
They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame.
However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man.
What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Nov 23 7.54pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline.
They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame.
However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man.
What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb.

I'd say that's a pretty accurate summary.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Nov 23 7.58pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered.

As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day.

It is no surprise that we had poor leadership during Covid, if you look at the Shadow Cabinet at the time would be difficult to make a winning argument the outcome would have been any better had they been in government

I think Johnson bottled it on Covid under the sheer weight of people who are now trying to shift blame onto him.

I'm hardly Johnson's biggest fan over Covid as was apparent at the time.

However, at least Johnson put his foot down and ensured that the lockdowns stopped.....You only had Christmas free of lockdown because of his insistence.

Labour and all the scared maskers would have locked you down until the summer....Well, some of them even beyond that.

Anyone who tells you that Labour are anything other than another bunch of useless t***s is trying to sell you something.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2023 7.59pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 8.56pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline.
They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame.
However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man.
What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb.

It was Sir Patrick Vallance giving evidence today.

His testimony is based on diaries and notes made at the time. He is not a politician. He is a scientist whose life is devoted to finding the truth. Assisting the enquiry to do that is not going to see him lying.

I would trust Patrick Vallance before 100 Boris Johnson’s. His evidence confirms what others have said, and what we witnessed ourselves.

Johnson failed to act on scientific advice, had a poor understanding of what the situation and risks were and, like some posters here still do, thought he knew better. He allowed his political concerns to interfere with what was his clear public duty as determined by the science.

The BBC reporting it is what is expected of them. What what you want them to do? White wash Johnson?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Nov 2023 9.05pm)

 


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The Dolphin Flag 21 Nov 23 6.21am

I am sorry - it was Vallance.
You can trust who you like but BJ was trying to run a Country in crisis while Vallance had one job and neither he nor a lot of other people did it well.
This enquiry is more about smearing the Government than actually making sure that we know what to do next time and the media love it.
I just turned on BBC and ITV and they are stumbling over their words, so keen are they to carry on the campaign.
It is unacceptable and takes away from just as serious stuff.
As it happens, Boris was right - we should not have locked down but sadly he listened to the numpties/Scientists - all with their own agendas - and caused even more problems.
He should have trusted his gut and the British people.
Sorry - getting off topic!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 23 8.27am

Typical example of BBC bias, this is the headline:

"Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague"

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The headline is an exaggeration something the Mail / Guardian / Mirror and The Sun do all the time, however I am told the BBC doesn't do that.

The study is based on 145 corpse, it is not clear if all of these 145 were black women or just a percentage but as the BBC uses the word individuals I suspect the later.

Eventually the BBC does mention that more than 50% of Londoners died an horrific death toll (35k).

So how many of those 35k were black?

Given that more than 50% of all people died is it really that significant if the mortality rate for black women was higher?

How many black women were there in London? No they don't tell us that.

The BBC doesn't lie (very often) but they do skew the facts.

 


One more point

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Nov 23 8.51am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I am sorry - it was Vallance.
You can trust who you like but BJ was trying to run a Country in crisis while Vallance had one job and neither he nor a lot of other people did it well.
This enquiry is more about smearing the Government than actually making sure that we know what to do next time and the media love it.
I just turned on BBC and ITV and they are stumbling over their words, so keen are they to carry on the campaign.
It is unacceptable and takes away from just as serious stuff.
As it happens, Boris was right - we should not have locked down but sadly he listened to the numpties/Scientists - all with their own agendas - and caused even more problems.
He should have trusted his gut and the British people.
Sorry - getting off topic!

As the enquiry was set up by the government it’s hardly likely its purpose is to smear itself, is it?

Johnson repeatedly claimed they were “following the science” when a lot of the time they neither understood it or even considered it.

Reporting the chaos is an imperative if we are to perform better the next time. Ensuring that the politicians know their actions, and inaction, will later be subject to public scrutiny should produce a more objective outcome.

How you can claim “Boris was right” beats me when everything that’s being revealed demonstrates how wrong he was in delaying the necessary actions. If we had gone down harder and earlier we could have avoided some of the problems and released earlier.

The idea that just because lockdowns had consequences they were wrong is stupidity on steriods. We knew they would. Every choice we faced had consequences, all bad. The decision to be made was which was least bad. Letting people die because they were old and had already had a life is not something any government ought to contemplate, but ours did, until the political consequences hit them. We don’t know what the full consequences would have been if we had taken another route because we didn’t. However there is strong scientific belief that it would have been much worse, quite possibly not only a greater loss of life but also greater economic consequences. This idea that everything would be ok if only they had done what I said they should have done is the reasoning of the playground.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 23 9.08am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As the enquiry was set up by the government it’s hardly likely its purpose is to smear itself, is it?

Johnson repeatedly claimed they were “following the science” when a lot of the time they neither understood it or even considered it.

Reporting the chaos is an imperative if we are to perform better the next time. Ensuring that the politicians know their actions, and inaction, will later be subject to public scrutiny should produce a more objective outcome.

How you can claim “Boris was right” beats me when everything that’s being revealed demonstrates how wrong he was in delaying the necessary actions. If we had gone down harder and earlier we could have avoided some of the problems and released earlier.

The idea that just because lockdowns had consequences they were wrong is stupidity on steriods. We knew they would. Every choice we faced had consequences, all bad. The decision to be made was which was least bad. Letting people die because they were old and had already had a life is not something any government ought to contemplate, but ours did, until the political consequences hit them. We don’t know what the full consequences would have been if we had taken another route because we didn’t. However there is strong scientific belief that it would have been much worse, quite possibly not only a greater loss of life but also greater economic consequences. This idea that everything would be ok if only they had done what I said they should have done is the reasoning of the playground.

Of course not, I mean it's not very likely that the civil service and the so called experts are looking to deflect blame away from their woeful performance. BJ is out of office so is a ready made fall guy.

We had a saying in our office when someone left that they were good for 6 months worth of blame.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Nov 2023 9.08am)

 


One more point

The Dolphin Flag 21 Nov 23 10.01am

Further responses should I guess go under Covid so I will move to that topic

 

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